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SUSslimey
post Mar 9 2018, 07:09 PM


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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Mar 4 2018, 11:00 AM)
As for water heater fitted with pumps, which is better? AC or DC?
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Dc in general better.
Quieter and more efficient.
No need to change carbon brush.
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post Apr 5 2018, 05:43 PM


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QUOTE(Plus+ @ Apr 5 2018, 04:26 PM)
i want to know too which better storage water heater??
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why don't go for instant water heater?
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post Apr 5 2018, 08:04 PM


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QUOTE(fireballs @ Apr 5 2018, 05:46 PM)
instant cannot make it rain
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Of course it can. You just need a fixture.
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post Apr 6 2018, 08:39 AM


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QUOTE(MX510 @ Apr 6 2018, 08:30 AM)
Whr can i get panasonic and philips the hose off the pipe already cracked

Trying to search through lazada kinda a bit lost here
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You will have better luck with your local Panasonic/Philips service center.
Take photo of the modal and part. They should have spare parts
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post Apr 9 2018, 03:02 PM


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QUOTE(popopi @ Apr 9 2018, 02:52 PM)
Mitsubishi and Panasonic is almost the same.. both still have small small problem.. but they are more reliable in term of running long hours... I have both, and they serve great till today...

China brand on the other hand.. yes.. time come, u change whole unit... the blower become very week. max fan speed like lvl1 panasonic speed.
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just change a capacitor. cost few a few rm only.
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post Apr 9 2018, 05:22 PM


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QUOTE(FlamingR @ Apr 9 2018, 03:26 PM)
A water pump from the main? As I do have a water filter tank installed at the moment and wasn't sure if it may have affected the flow. Does that mean I should get a water filter + pump combo at the main?

I just did ELCB test last month, so far so good. But once in a while I do worry if I get electrocuted or not (from seeing the news of faulty water heater) because it wasn't fun when you got electrocuted before not once but twice(not from showering) cry.gif
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As long as the shower head and hose is plastic, you can't get a nasty shock.

At most is just some tingling at area where there is a break in skin.
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post May 23 2018, 01:19 PM


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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 23 2018, 01:08 PM)
I came across one interesting product in 11street and it's cheap without any metal heating element.

user posted image

Small and simple to install.

https://www.11street.my/productdetail/gzu-z...heater-63073016
Anyone using this?
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That is obvious rubbish.
0.4 mpa is like 4 bar or 58 psi water pressure.
No way you will have that much pressure.
And with that much pressure and 3000 watts obviously the water temp not be what stated there.

And no way for setting temperature or mention of any safety.
Stay away is my recommendation.
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post May 23 2018, 01:37 PM


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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 23 2018, 01:33 PM)
read the first comment, raises red flag
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Full of red flags for those in the know.
Maintain constant temp? But later at bottom state different temp based on input water temp.

0.4 mpa starting pressure also obvious red flag.
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post Mar 5 2021, 11:48 AM


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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Mar 5 2021, 09:26 AM)
I'm on the lookout for storage heater and have similar questions. Add another brand - HydroOne EcoHeater looks good also, just 1.5kW rating instead of the typical 3kW rating. Just need to know others personal experience with the product and aftersales service which is better?
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sounds like rubbish to me.

science say that conversion from electric to heat is 100% efficiency.

so it will mean 1.5kw will take longer time to heat up.
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post Mar 5 2021, 12:34 PM


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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Mar 5 2021, 12:28 PM)
haha I don't know la, this is what their manufacture claim. but anyway it also depends on the heating element and tank insulation right? because conventional using metallic but ecoheater is using ceramic. from what i read ceramic is more efficient than metallic so maybe this is the reason why?
thanks, where do you live? I checked on their website they only have HQ in Subang, no service center in Penang. I need to find out if they have service center/after sales outside klang valley only can commit.
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lol.......

conversion of electric to heat is 100% efficiency.
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post Mar 10 2021, 11:44 AM


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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Mar 10 2021, 09:05 AM)
my toshiba water heater heating element tank bursted.
it is made out of plastic.
The technician said it is due to my water pump pressure too high and burst the plastic.

may i know which other instant water heater model's heating element tank is made of metal instead of plastic?
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Hold on.....

How can an instant water heater tank burst?

Is the outlet restricted?
Is the stop cock installed at the outlet instead of inlet?
Has there been any repair or replacement done on the thermostat or heating element?

As far as I am aware, all instant heater tank is made with fiber or glass reinforced nylon for safety reasons.
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post Mar 10 2021, 10:30 PM


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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Mar 10 2021, 08:33 PM)
Usually it is plastic insulation to cover the copper tank. Seldom see pure plastic heating tank.

see 5:35

see 4:16

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The top part and bottom part is not actually one piece. Usually either glued or o ring or crimped to the lower part. Lower part is usually nylon only, for more electrical isolation.
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post Mar 11 2021, 01:38 AM


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QUOTE(yycclin @ Mar 11 2021, 12:50 AM)
They is 1 key safety device attached along the heater, PRV ( Pressure release valve, or TPV ( Temperature Pressure release valve ).

This could prevent the case like heating tank burst..smile.gif
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there is no pressure release valve in instant water heater.

it is designed in such that the outlet is never restricted or blocked.

hence there should not be any high pressure in the tank
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post Mar 11 2021, 09:25 AM


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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Mar 11 2021, 08:21 AM)
hi, it is DSK38ESSMB.

ya, probably my inlet pressure is high cause i added a pump for the whole house.

the stopcock is at outlet as i connect it to a mixer type 3 way water outlet
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That’s the problem.

The outlet should never be restricted.

It is in the manual.
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post Apr 19 2021, 12:00 AM


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QUOTE(shadow1143 @ Apr 18 2021, 10:56 PM)
Any recommendations for installing instant water heater? Ady have socket provided
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dont use socket.

should always direct connect from 20 amp switch
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post May 12 2021, 04:23 PM


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QUOTE(idkihavenoidealol @ May 12 2021, 04:14 PM)
Newbie question here. How do I know what size of cable for my WH? To check whether is it 1.5/2.5/4 mm2? Is it written on the cable or I have to measure? And the size is actually referring to which? The pvc or the copper inside?

And let's say it's 2.5mm2, does it mean all live, neutral and earth also 2.5?
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2.5mmsq refers to the surface area of the copper/conductor.

all the size of the conductor need to be the same for the appliance
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post May 12 2021, 06:45 PM


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QUOTE(idkihavenoidealol @ May 12 2021, 05:35 PM)
I see. Thanks. So how do I know which cable being used for my WH?

And lets say if I wanted to change from 2.5 mm2 to 4 to support higher kW WH, does it mean have to rewire from the toilet all the way to the DB? Will it be very expensive? Since now copper price is expensive and also I think hacking has to be done? Anyone know roughly how much for this?
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