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eddie2020
post Dec 11 2020, 08:03 PM

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hi i plan to get a water heater with pump and rain shower.
It seems need to purchase separately right?

Previous page read some comparison, i think toshiba DSK38S3MW good enough?

I plan to get 2 heater, 1 for master bathroom and 1 more for 2nd bathroom. Maybe i just get 2 same model will be a good bet? biggrin.gif our plan probably we will use the 2nd room more often.

I asked my house contractor to install 20AC from DB, this mean they will put new fuse in db for 20AC ? i add total 4 20AC. .
eddie2020
post Dec 11 2020, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 11 2020, 08:51 PM)
Rain shower need good (high) water flow to rain properly otherwise you'll just get a miserable drip like prison torture.
OTOH, High water flow will not be able to heat up as well as medium water flow as the water already travel far ahead from the heating element (when its high flow).

Its part of the reason why normally they don't put rain shower as default when selling WH.
There are larger heating element WH (4800W models) if you want to run a rain shower and have it hot.

Ideally should run a new dedicated line from DB for the WH. Ask the electrician to add in 10mA RCD / RCBO (from a reputable brand ABB Hager Schneider). Contractor simply hook up only, I recommend getting a real electrician to look into this if the contractor say noneed one.. wont die one... ph34r.gif

These don't cost that much nowadays (95 bucks for schneider with sirim sticker)
https://shopee.com.my/SCHNEIDER-RCBO-25a-2p...1048.2774414891
25A RCBO as per above can do direct replacement for MCB (if u use 4mm or 6mm cable). Else still need 20A MCB if on standard 2.5mm cable as 25A for this cable size is overload.

Why this is important?
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To avoid you coming into the news like this https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...c-shock/1896447

Standard 2.5mm cable will limit you to 3800W model WH. If you find the water too cold then nothing much you can do.
If you uprate it to 4mm or 6mm it will support 4800W (highlands model) WH.
Cost wise not that much more in terms of material for cable (even if buy loose per meter) but since pulling new line you might wanna consider just buying whole 100m rolls. whistling.gif
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my floor have water pump from what i know from management office. In additional to play safe the model i considering come with water pump, i think should be sufficient.
My hometown using rubine with the rain shower and its quite ok from my experience, the heating i not sure normally how hot you all use as i saw this mentioned many time.
Normally i only use like 30% of full heat or max 40% (those dialer normally around 3-4) then when pump to rain shower i still didnt feel much heat loss, if yes then i maybe push it to 50%,
I dont think need 4800w model as i dont really take too hot shower.

its didicated just that i think maybe they just hook to any of the db side fuse. those 9 safety feature all useless for current water heater? just wondering.
eddie2020
post Dec 13 2020, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Dec 12 2020, 09:45 PM)
do make sure that there is a earth leakage Trip function / button on the water heater  .  and test that it works  to trip the power  nod.gif
SINGAPORE, Dec 12 — An 80-year-old man and his 66-year-old wife died in their flat at Block 120 Ho Ching Road in the Jurong Lakeside district on Thursday.
The police said that they were alerted to a case of unnatural death at 4.15pm and found the couple lying motionless when they arrived at the housing block.
The pair were pronounced dead at the scene by a paramedic.
The couple’s 45-year-old son who had gone to visit them was also in the flat. He was unconscious and taken to Ng Teng Fong General Hospital, but later died in the hospital.

The police said that no foul play is suspected and investigations are ongoing.

Chinese daily Lianhe Wanbao reported that the older man Omar Manan was taking a shower when he fell in the bathroom. His wife Asmah Bujang went in to help him and both were purportedly electrocuted.

When the son Muhamad Ashikin Omar arrived at the flat with his 15-year-old daughter, he tried to save them and was reportedly electrocuted as well.
 
https://www.malaymail.com/news/singapore/20...son-als/1931245
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How to test it? I bought Panasonic and Toshiba without pump finally as I see the pressure is high enough.. I see their spec mention alot of protection.. Hopefully it works and I have no idea how to test it.. Toshiba DSK38S5MW and Panasonic DH-3RL1
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post Dec 13 2020, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Dec 13 2020, 12:52 PM)
the pana  DH  has  a 15mA  ELB  trip .  as stated in the specs. 
ELB  have been working for  many years .  and many old houses  still have these at their DB .
todays houses they use the  RCCB  in lieu. 
there is a button  on the  WH front panel  ELB Test . 
just press this and the power will trip.  mean  the  leakage test works.  do this test  once every month .
you are good to GO  thumbsup.gif

not sure about toshiba  as i only  use/ recommend  pana WH .
i only know the pana  inside and out  .
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there is alot of wh with elcb but function or not i not sure, and i think not all have the button to test.
earlier want to opt panasonic but my friend is fan of panasonic he tell me his experience leak for 2 wh then he decided switch brand and ask me not to buy..
i still buy 1 to test to avoid all the risk into same brand so i buy toshiba as the design n spec quite nice

 

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