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Joseph Hahn
post Feb 13 2012, 06:56 PM

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X10 for 1876. Good deal?
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Feb 14 2012, 09:50 AM)
Wow.... so good deal. Because I got mine at RM 2100.
After update didn't try it yet. But heard not really fix it.
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Buying from a trader here. But it's just the camera, nothing else. Add memory card (16GB Class 10) and postage still 2100 also. Hoping to get this week.

I read about the orb problem, pretty severe in some cases. I think it's a flaw in the EXR sensor design itself.

But i have to say 99.99% of the non orb pics taken by X10 made me decided to buy it, and of course, the looks. nod.gif

Joseph Hahn
post Feb 16 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(dcsuave05 @ Feb 15 2012, 10:25 PM)
Which shop selling at this price?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1995635
Joseph Hahn
post Feb 22 2012, 12:16 PM

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Tried 40.5mm filters at the shops, won't fit and so hard to find 40mm filter & lens cap. Ended up ordering JJC hood to fit Hoya HD filter & lens cap. >_>

Also ordered Nikon Hot Shoe cover for RM9.50 and the only shutter release button on Shashinki lulz.

The orb problem can be very severe at ISO 100 but above 1600 it's gone. Just hope Fuji will do something about this but i kinda doubt they will. Might as well improve the sensor and rename it X11.

Other than that somewhat major problem, this thing takes freaking nice photos.

My flickr if anyone interested. blush.gif
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post Feb 22 2012, 02:45 PM

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I call it THE LIGHTSABER OF DEATH. ohmy.gif

I find the color to be a bit flat in Standard film mode so i put the Color to high. Velvia is a bit too contrasty for me. tongue.gif

Also noticed that maybe it's a bit underexposed under bright sunlight so i might have to adjust a bit. Hm we'll see in my next lonely outing. cry.gif
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post Feb 28 2012, 12:10 PM

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ORBZOMFG D:
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Anyway, i like how this pic turned out.
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Joseph Hahn
post Feb 29 2012, 12:56 PM

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Definitely not fixed. Just some other fixes and addition. Don't think it's fixable by firmware when the hardware is flawed.

Maybe use -1 or -2 EV will reduce it but i'm not sure.
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post Mar 2 2012, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Mar 1 2012, 12:19 AM)
could you take another with AUTO ISO 1600 and see if it gets better
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My result is similar to dpreview. 1600 above it's much softer.

I think reducing the Highlight Tone setting will help reduce it a bit since i think the camera (at least my copy) tends to blow the highlight a lot especially contrasty indoor.
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post Mar 4 2012, 06:39 PM

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If you look at flickr you can see tons of great pic taken with this cam. Also the orb problem vary a lot. You might get lucky if you get the latest copy. Mine seems to be the older copy (22/11/2011) so seems quite bad.

Was testing around at night on purpose. Orbs are mostly everywhere lol... funny thing when i zoom it seems to be reduced a bit.
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post Mar 5 2012, 02:27 PM

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Not so noticeable since the orb in the middle is the same shape with the original lamp on the left. Other pics that i havent process seems quite worse. But i was doing this deliberately so... tongue.gif
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post Mar 8 2012, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(enviro @ Mar 6 2012, 07:37 AM)
Fuji just announced this. Maybe they will recall our x10 and replace the sensor. rclxms.gif
Wait for answer on 12/03/12

"Fujifilm has said it will provide a 'definitive solution' to the white orb blooming problem on its X10 enthusiast compact camera. No further details are available at this point but Fujifilm UK, speaking at the Focus 2012 show in Birmingham UK, said that it is aware of customer concerns and that there will be making a full statement on March 12th."
I wonder what it will be. Hoping for something good but then again don't want to hope so much lol...
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post Mar 9 2012, 11:55 AM

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Well i doubt it will have the same sensor blooming problem since it's a different sensor. The XS-1 is more likely to have it since it's the same sensor. But from what i read it's not as severe as X10.

QUOTE(enviro @ Mar 8 2012, 01:24 PM)
The x10 is only 3 months old. Too early for them to give up and dump this camera.
If fuji dont solve this problem their sales for the next 12 mth or so product life will
be badly affected not to mention their reputation and other models and future models. somehow I feel
they will not forget us the early buyers. If they do then they better commit harakiri  nod.gif
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Well i sure hope so, them Japanese being Japanese. They so proudly say that it's Made in Japan so they should fix it the Japanese way. nod.gif

QUOTE(enviro @ Mar 9 2012, 04:24 AM)
I use the camera like you so I have not even upgraded the firmware. At a popular
US forum the problem is hotly debated with some cursing Fuji so if thy cannot solve the technical problem then they should follow apple iphone 4 experience and offer refund to those unhappy customers.
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I upgraded to 1.03 straight away when i got the camera. Haha DPReview eh... maybe it's good that they are cursing Fuji a lot even though most of them don't even own the camera. Otherwise, Fuji probably won't take any action at all. Let them bash our camera and we just continue enjoying it as usual. icon_idea.gif

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post Mar 12 2012, 04:05 PM

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I wonder what time. Hopefully in a couple of hours.
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post Mar 12 2012, 09:07 PM

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Lol it should be 1PM there already? >_> Still nothing.

*stares at Fujifilm UK twitter*

edit: Oh look. Not yet. >_>
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:24 PM

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No la. They promised to announce the definitive fix for the X10 orb problem today. I think it will be sometime later. >_>
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post Mar 13 2012, 08:22 AM

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I just emailed Fuji Malaysia. Hope they will reply soon.

Some people in Australia said they already called and Fuji will replace the sensor in May. Dunno if it will covered using the warranty or what.
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post Mar 13 2012, 06:10 PM

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Nothing so far. Maybe it's better to just call them.
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post Mar 14 2012, 10:04 AM

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Good news everyone! We have a date! icon_rolleyes.gif

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Thank you for writing to us, Yes it is true the program will be started on 15 May 2012 to 31 December 2013.
Thus, during this time you can send to our service center to replace the sensor for free. Thanks for your support.

Regards,
Hassan
FUJIFILM (Malaysia) Sdn. Bhd.
Technical Department- Camera Repair
Technician


Also, finally the announcement is on their site.
http://www.myfinepix.co.uk/news/statement-...blooming-effect

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post Mar 14 2012, 11:43 AM

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I guess it's just covered under the 1 year warranty. And that the X10 will continue to be sold until the end of the year. In the meantime, i'm still enjoying it. biggrin.gif

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post Mar 14 2012, 05:11 PM

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No problem folks. biggrin.gif

That's the technician. This is probably his boss. tongue.gif

QUOTE
Thank you very much for writing to us! We're regret for the inconvenience caused to you.

First, we found the latest firmware version 1.03 is working well to solved the "white disc" issue and satisfied most of the customers. However, the level of 'white disc' affect are only varies from sensor to sensor, even though the latest firmware upgraded. Does your camera's firmware upgraded to Version 1.03? If your camera had the latest firmware, but still encountered the "white disc' problem. We already take down your details into our archives, we'll make an appointment and inform you to receive your camera once the modified sensor has arrived to our service centre.

If there any enquiries, please don't hesitate to contact our customer service centre 603-55698388 ext:270. Your support and patronize are highly appreciated!

Best regards,
Leow CS
Technical Executive
Camera Repair Division
FUJIFILM (Malaysia) Sdn. Bhd.
22, Jalan Jurunilai U1/20, Seksyen U1,
Hicom Glenmarie Industrial Park,
40150 Shah Alam, Selangor, Malaysia.
TEL: 603-55698388 ext: 264
Email: leowcs@fujifilm.com.my


Yeah hats off to them. Way to go Fuji Malaysia! thumbup.gif

Heard that some country they replied that they haven't received any news from Fuji Japan yet. hmm.gif

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