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 Gold investment corner v4, Will gold price achieve USD2000 by 2012?

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post Mar 19 2012, 11:08 AM

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is the economy going to get worst? if yes, gold is good. if no, good luck to gold holders tongue.gif

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gold price tak boleh achieve USD2000 by 2012 shakehead.gif i alredi cut loss and close position liao
market has factor in obama losing election, dog jones going to 14k and economic boom time cycle cuming
gold now trapped sideways, sucking in sheeps and izit killing them slowly laugh.gif
my pov onli, no need get so upset gold lovers brows.gif

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sector rotation by momo seems over for gold, they are at the bottom of the heap hmm.gif
http://www.barchart.com/stocks/sectors/cha...age=ytd&_dtp1=2
look at those companies producing gold & etc. going longkang liao lo blink.gif go check their fundamentals? izit goodie?
http://www.barchart.com/stocks/sectors/-MIGL

remember, momo buy/ sell shares. anticipating in advance wats happening few months down the road cool2.gif
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sector...p#axzz1pWopnsil
look at the this 3 samples. sooner or later, can short them, waiting for support line to pecah rclxms.gif

Randgold Resources Limited, together with its subsidiaries, engages in the exploration and mining of gold mines

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Royal Gold, Inc., together with its subsidiaries, engages in the acquisition and management of precious metal royalties

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Newmont Mining Corporation, together with its subsidiaries, engages in the acquisition, exploration, and production of gold and copper properties

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post Mar 19 2012, 01:11 PM

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wait till the usa economies start picking up brows.gif await earnings result next month. if its blowout earnings again doh.gif
then sooner or later, can short gld (ie. etf for gold) i also dont think there will be huge increment for gold this year hmm.gif
not sure about those holding physical book or bought it via passbook, awaiting their advise for those pro-gold camp nod.gif

QUOTE(thunderaj @ Mar 19 2012, 12:05 PM)
learn2earn8 :good graph, thanks for sharing .

i dont think there will be huge increment for gold this year .
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post Mar 19 2012, 01:49 PM

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AIYO RELAX LA doh.gif tis thread must hav those pro & anti gold forumers, then its more balance & shiok mah cool2.gif
anyway, hav to wait for the time to short, not just main hentam onli biggrin.gif very leceh la to explain
alwiz pro-gold only, very boring. in bolehland, erection also cuming. so u pro or anti? tat is y must be balance la shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 19 2012, 01:21 PM)
You are so sure of yerself, why the need for advise?

Short gold now..............    brows.gif

Shew yer money where yer mouth is........
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post Mar 19 2012, 04:27 PM

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of coz, TA & FA goes hand in hand together rclxms.gif
I do agree tat the economy stil sucks but how can we fight with the obama propaganda mesin? shakehead.gif
well then, we're all here to make money. there's got to be winners & losers in tis game flex.gif
within the year, we'll know the answer & cheers to whomever wins, HUAT AH! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(iceypain @ Mar 19 2012, 04:19 PM)
I wouldn't rely solely on technical analysis.

Nonetheless, you may be right but my money is on an israel-iran conflict within the year. Word's out that benny boy has been suppressing crude and gold to make the economy look better too but who knows.
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post Mar 20 2012, 08:39 PM

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I take up your challenge until usa election in nov2012. we dun consider aapl, as it alredi ROCK-IT laugh.gif
but its not fair to use indices either, coz its a weightage average, the losers drag down the winners
it seems u awaiting the gap up for exiting. for shares, I await their earnings sux and exit it before goes to longkang tongue.gif
here r 5 stock selections to challenge ur gold (via. etf gld)

no problemo rite? coz ur gold so terer via ur sophisticated analisis nod.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2027841/+680 Post #685 selection 1, ur gold is winning by a whopping 90% rclxms.gif
who knows? earnings season could be lousy & economi outlook deteriorate. then ur gold can recontinue uptrend, all the best to both of us icon_rolleyes.gif
look futures r down for shares & dog jones could dip below 13k to scare weakholders. but nonetheless, I m hanging tight my position sweat.gif

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?t=my&s=GLD&l...z=l&q=l&c=disca
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http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?t=my&s=GLD&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=bwld
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http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?t=my&s=GLD&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=sxci
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http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?t=my&s=GLD&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=lulu
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http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=GLD&t=my&l...=l&p=&a=&c=dltr
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 12 2012, 07:52 AM)
If you bought it EARLIER than 1979, why did you SELL when it ROCK-IT?
No get out strategy?   

117% in two months should have told ya something.    biggrin.gif


Added on March 12, 2012, 7:57 am
Easier said than done..........many people thought the US mkt would be better in last 10 years.....

lost to gold HANDSDOWN    nod.gif

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There arent many assets which beat gold in the last 10 years......so?

Maybe someone can educate us what were the assets which beat gold apart from obvious commodities?

Let me know an asset which will in the next 5 years which will..........thanks


Added on March 12, 2012, 8:49 amGold Bulls Strengthen as Wagers Hit $131 Billion
Gold traders are the most bullish in four months after investors accumulated more metal than ever and hedge funds raised bets on gains to a five-month high.

Sixteen of 23 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg expect prices to gain next week and one was neutral, the highest proportion since Nov. 11. Investors increased their holdings in exchange- traded products backed by bullion for seven consecutive weeks and now hold 2,407 metric tons valued at $131 billion, data compiled by Bloomberg show.

March 7 (Bloomberg) -- Joseph Cusick, senior market analyst at OptionsXpress Holdings Inc., Jason Schenker, president of Prestige Economics LLC, and Bloomberg's William Maloney talk about the outlook for gold prices and their trading strategies. They speak with Trish Regan on Bloomberg Television's "Street Smart." (Source: Bloomberg)

Demand for gold is strengthening as European leaders seek to contain the region’s debt crisis and governments from the U.S. to the U.K. keep interest rates at all-time lows to shore up growth. The Federal Reserve and Bank of England have bought debt and the European Central Bank offered unlimited three-year loans to the region’s lenders, actions that spurred some investors to buy gold as protection against inflation.

“Record-high ETP holdings show both institutional demand and hedge-fund demand is robust,” said Mark O’Byrne, the executive director of Dublin-based GoldCore Ltd., a brokerage that sells and stores everything from quarter-ounce British Sovereigns to 400-ounce bars. “People are concerned about inflationary implications of quantitative easing, zero-percent interest rates policy and global currency debasement.”

Bank of America

Gold rose 9.3 percent to $1,711.90 an ounce this year on the Comex in New York, heading for a 12th annual advance. That compares with a 9.5 percent jump in the Standard & Poor’s GSCI gauge of 24 commodities and a 10 percent appreciation in the MSCI All-Country World Index (MXWD) of equities. Treasuries fell 0.5 percent, a Bank of America Corp. index (MXWD) shows.

Hedge funds and other money managers increased bets on higher prices by 10 percent to 197,552 futures and options in the week ended Feb. 28, the highest level since Sept. 6, Commodity Futures Trading Commission data show. The CFTC will publish the latest data later today.
The most-traded options on March 7 were call options giving owners the right to buy gold at $1,900 and $1,850 an ounce by April 25, data from the Comex show. The most widely held contract confers the right to buy at $2,200 by July 26.

The economy of the 17-nation euro region may shrink 0.1 percent in 2012, compared with a previous forecast for 0.3 percent growth, ECB President Mario Draghi said yesterday. Inflation will probably breach the bank’s 2 percent limit this year, he said in Frankfurt. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao lowered the country’s annual growth target to 7.5 percent, the lowest since 2004, in a state-of-the-nation speech on March 5.

Benchmark Rate

The ECB left interest rates at a record 1 percent yesterday and the Bank of England also held its benchmark rate at an all- time low of 0.5 percent. In January, the Fed extended its pledge to keep its benchmark rate for overnight loan between banks at almost zero at least through late 2014.

Gold futures tumbled 4.3 percent on Feb. 29 after Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke failed to signal in testimony to Congress that the central bank will take new steps to boost liquidity. The metal dropped below its 200-day moving average on March 6 for the first time since mid-January. That’s a sign for some investors who study charts of trading patterns and prices to predict trends that a rout has further to go.

“Gold is going to struggle a bit in the next couple of weeks,” said Walter de Wet, the head of commodities research at Standard Bank Plc in London. “If gold goes to $1,720 and higher, we’ll start to see physical appetite waning. Gold is also going to find it difficult to rally just yet from an investment perspective, with all the talk around no more quantitative easing from the Fed.”

Warren Buffett

Warren Buffett, the third-richest person in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, said last month in his annual letter to shareholders that investors should avoid gold because its uses are limited and it doesn’t have the potential of farmland or companies to produce new wealth.

Supply is “very tight and tightening” and mine costs are rising, Randgold Resources Ltd. Chief Executive Officer Mark Bristow said in an interview in Toronto on March 7. Price swings will likely increase this year, with gold trading from $1,500 to $2,000, said the executive, whose company mines gold in Africa. The futures reached a record $1,923.70 in September.

Fifteen of 27 traders and analysts surveyed by Bloomberg expect copper to advance next week. The metal for delivery in three months, the London Metal Exchange’s benchmark contract, rose 12 percent to $8,500 a ton this year after declining 21 percent last year.

Raw Sugar

Thirteen of 17 people surveyed expect raw sugar to fall next week. The commodity gained 1.4 percent this year to 23.63 cents a pound on ICE Futures U.S. in New York.

Twelve of 26 people surveyed anticipate lower corn prices next week, while 14 of 26 said soybeans will drop. Corn fell 0.6 percent to $6.425 a bushel this year as soybeans gained 11 percent to $13.355 a bushel.

“There are a lot of risks out there,” Jason Schenker, the president of Prestige Economics LLC in Austin, Texas, said in a Bloomberg Television interview March 7. “Gold is an inflation hedge, it’s a risk hedge. Think of it as one of the major reserve currencies, but it’s not subject to a default.”

Gold survey results: Bullish: 16 Bearish: 6 Hold: 1
Copper survey results: Bullish: 15 Bearish: 7 Hold: 5
Corn survey results: Bullish: 8 Bearish: 12 Hold: 6
Soybean survey results: Bullish: 7 Bearish: 14 Hold: 5
Raw sugar survey results: Bullish: 2 Bearish: 13 Hold: 2
White sugar survey results: Bullish: 2 Bearish: 12 Hold: 3
White sugar premium results: Widen: 6 Narrow: 4 Neutral: 7

To contact the reporters on this story: Maria Kolesnikova in London at mkolesnikova@bloomberg.net; Nicholas Larkin in London at nlarkin1@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Claudia Carpenter at ccarpenter2@bloomberg.net

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...mmodities.html
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post Mar 23 2012, 12:46 AM

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the 5 shares selection is giving gold a run for its money drool.gif gold lovers must pray the cuming earnings season is bad for those 5 shares nod.gif

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gold lovers, u all need to buy more gold & stimulate demand, then price of gold can go higher flex.gif
here r some good news for u all since the 1650 support line did not hold
http://888webtoday.com/articles/viewnews.c...kukAEZAGbJgxxvp

In answering questions about funding of the IMF for the financial needs in the Eurozone, the U.S. Treasury Secretary said the chance of a default by the IMF, or any of its borrowers of money provided by the U.S. is extremely low. Why? Because the loans are all "backed by IMF gold"!

Gold is the only money immune from political spin and capable of protecting nations or individuals from financial ruin, a fact simple enough that even central bankers understand- including our Treasury Secretary Geithner.

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post Mar 30 2012, 02:14 PM

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interesting article hmm.gif however 50dma is touching 200dma, technical signs not goodie
also, its the second time gld goes below 50dma brows.gif
if it can goes above 1750 & stay there in this few months after earning season, then can bull whistling.gif
otherwise the 4th time gld goes below 50dma means drool.gif

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 27 2012, 07:13 AM)
Taking a Breather

Monday March 26, 2012 11:35
Gold and silver have been falling this month. 

The correction has so far been moderate, but don’t be surprised if gold moves within a consolidation area for a few months.  Upcoming weakness will be the time to add to your positions.

The markets are sensitive and volatile.

This is why keeping focused on the major trends is important. Staying focused on demand is also vital because a demand based rise is the best and strongest rise in any market.

STRONG GLOBAL DEMAND

It’s not surprising that global gold demand was impressive again last year.  Investment demand was the main driver, according to the World Gold Council.

Central banks made up a good part of this demand as their gold reserves have increased by more than 500 tonnes over the past two years... And the central banks are buying for the same reasons this year.

They want to diversify their reserves and protect themselves against relying on one or two foreign currencies. They want to continue restoring a balance and capitalize on gold’s rise as a means of preserving national wealth and financial market stability.

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Plus, China and India will continue to play important roles in consumer demand, in spite of the recent global slowdown. And with the average Chinese citizen being encouraged to buy gold, it nearly guarantees that gold will continue rising.

FOCUS ON BIG PICTURE

Chart 1 shows gold’s big picture, which is always a good picture to keep focused on. When you see the over 40 year old mega upchannel develop as it has, you can see how close gold is to reaching the $2,500 level, the top of this channel.

We think gold is poised to rise much further than this in the years to come, but for now this is our next target area, once gold breaks above the $1900 record high level.

The bull market has completed several milestones with the first one being a rise above $500, then $1000, and now it’s $2500.

But first consolidation 

Chart 2

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Before any further record highs can be attained, it looks like gold needs to take a several month breather. This will be our next great buying area. Chart 2 shows this.

Gold tends to move in an A-D pattern on an intermediate basis, as our subscribers know. The 16% rise from December to late February was ideal for an “A” rise. They tend to be moderate and they tend to recuperate a good part of the prior decline, which was from September to December (D decline).

More important, the ‘A’ rise and the ‘B’ decline together form a consolidation time, which is probably where we are today. If gold now stays below $1,795, we could see it decline further to possibly the $1,600 level in a normal B decline.

Even if the December lows are tested, it would be fine within the bull market, and this would provide a great buying time.

On the upside, gold would look good again above $1795. It could then test the record highs. A break out into new high territory would mark the next bullish C rise. Keep in mind, as long as C rises continue to reach record highs, the bull market is strong and healthy.

By Mary Anne & Pamela Aden,
Courtesy of www.adenforecast.com
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:31 AM

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there is a mismatch or arbitrage, one of the price is correct & the other will hav to follow sooner or later brows.gif gld 157 vs gold 162
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GLD
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html



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post Apr 18 2012, 10:34 PM

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Gold Heading to $700: Author Sees “Impending Collapse”

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticke...-124847501.html

For the past decade, gold has been an incredible investment, rising from under $300 per ounce to as high as $1,900 per ounce before retreating to around $1,650 in recent trading.

For the bulls, gold's recent drop is nothing more than a temporary setback on its inexorable march toward $2,000 and beyond. The case for gold rests primarily on factors familiar to anyone who's even remotely familiar with the metal: easy money from central banks around the world and rising demand from emerging economies, notably China and India. (See: Easy Money + Low Rates = Gold at $2000 by Year End)

But all good things must come to an end and Yoni Jacobs, chief investment strategist at Chart Prophet, believes gold's best days are behind it. In fact, Yoni believes there's a bubble in precious metals that's about to collapse as detailed in his book, Gold Bubble: Profiting from Gold's Impending Collapse.

While tipping his hat to the bullish arguments and sympathetic to reasons why people own gold, Jacobs says the metal's inability to rally despite Europe's ongoing crisis and renewed tensions in the Middle East are negative signs. "The froth is coming off," he says.

Technically, the strategist cites heavy volume during gold's sell-off last September and the negative divergence between gold and gold miners as warning signs. In the past six months, the Market Vectors Gold Miners ETF (GDX) is down 20% while the Gold ETF (GLD) is essentially flat.

Furthermore, gold is vulnerable to the global economic slowdown, he says, noting China just reported its slowest quarter in three years.

"If we have a recession or slowing global growth then all assets fall -- it's a deflationary period," Jacobs says. "Even though a lot of people are expecting inflation, if we enter recession that means the price of assets falls. Gold will fall together with the rest of commodities."

Finally, Jacobs cites "over-speculation" in gold, its "parabolic increase" in recent years, the "mass publicity" the metal has received, and the extreme emotions of its advocates as signs of it being in bubble territory.

Based on historical trends and technical patterns, Jacobs predicts gold will fall below the key $1,000 per ounce level on its way to the $700 area. He recommends shorting the GLD or GDX or buying out-of-the-money puts on gold as a way to profit from gold's demise.

Jacobs is clearly out on a limb on this prediction and there's a good chance he'll be proven wrong.

But hedging your positions and managing downside risks is always a good idea, especially with an investment that's appreciated as much as gold.

http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html


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post Apr 23 2012, 02:51 PM

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Aisay, your pro gold tok guru name is prophetjul
the 'prophet' almost similar to Yoni Jacobs the chief investment strategist at Chart Prophet laugh.gif
but why this thread not so gembira and chirpy like last time hmm.gif why so quiet? so here is another entertainment brows.gif

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-inches-...-005922532.html

Gold posts 1 percent weekly drop; volume, options eyed

By Frank Tang and Jan Harvey

NEW YORK/LONDON (Reuters) - Gold ended nearly flat in thin trade on Friday, logging declines for two of the past three weeks as investors took to the sidelines ahead of a key U.S. option expiration and a Federal Reserve policy meeting next week.

The metal, which has tended to follow riskier assets, inched down despite the usually bullish factors of a weaker dollar, an oil rally and gains in U.S. equities on better-than-expected corporate results.

Options traders said that gold prices could gravitate toward the $1,650 strike price for call options ahead of next week's COMEX options expiry, dealers said.

U.S. gold futures' open interest, a liquidity gauge measuring the number of contracts outstanding, fell below the 400,000 lot for the first time this week, while Friday's volume was on track to be one of the weakest this year.

"We not only lost open interest but also volume, and a lot of that has to do with the sustained upward move of the stock market," said George Gero, vice president of RBC Capital Markets.

Gold has lost around $150 an ounce since late February after a strong run of U.S. economic data dashed hopes of further monetary easing by the Fed.

While gold was still 5 percent higher year to date despite recent setbacks, U.S. equities measured by the S&P 500 index have risen 10 percent so far this year.

Spot gold edged down 22 cents to $1,642.26 an ounce by 2:49 p.m. EDT (1849 GMT).

U.S. gold futures for June delivery settled up $1.40 at $1,642.80.

Trading volume was below 90,000 lots at 3 p.m., preliminary Reuters data showed, set to challenge this year's low of 97,189 lots set on April 9.

Gold is also struggling for direction as buyers await the outcome of IMF/World Bank semi-annual meetings this weekend, at which plans to tackle the euro zone debt crisis will be discussed, and the Federal Reserve's April 24-25 meeting on U.S. monetary policy.

$1,650 CALL STRIKE IN FOCUS

Open interest for the popular $1,650 call strike has nearly doubled over the last 30 days despite dwindling volume in futures, dealers said.

"There are over 12,000 lots (1.2 million ounces) of open interest on the COMEX expiry next Wednesday for the $1,650 strike," TD Securities precious metals analysts said in a note.

"This is clearly starting to draw market interest and will likely mean the price does not deviate significantly away until expiry," the note said.

Appetite for physical gold in India, historically the world's top bullion consumer, has been lackluster ahead of the gold-buying festival of Akshaya Tritiya on Tuesday next week, as high prices and rupee weakness curbed interest in the metal.

Silver was down 0.2 percent at $31.65 an ounce, while spot platinum edged up 0.1 percent to $1,576.24 an ounce and palladium rose 1.9 percent to $672.22 an ounce.


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come on pro gold forumers, based on my last article, u guys were able to put up a good fight. come on, do it one more time nod.gif
unless u all are busy digging into your reserve buying and scooping as much gold as you can hmm.gif
with so many uncertainty and bad news abound, your price of gold should reflect those bull theory flex.gif
think positive smile.gif the price down is just me manipulating the gold market. those countries who buy gold can push up its price anytime laugh.gif
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AIYOYO, pro gold forumers and tok guru did not sent memo to thestar? doh.gif
if u guys are giving out bad news to buy low and fleece the lemmings, then its ok la rclxms.gif
no worries, by this year end, we will know gold direction nod.gif

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...10&sec=business

Tuesday April 24, 2012
Gold losing lustre, is no more safe haven as price not holding up(update)
By JOHN LOH
johnloh@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: Gold, which is seen as a safe haven in times of conflict or faltering stock markets, has been on the wane.

As at 5pm yesterday, spot gold had retreated some 14% to US$1,633.35 per ounce from its peak of US$1,900.20 per ounce last September, suggesting markets are not holding out for more quantitative easing (QE) from the US Federal Reserve (Fed) or other central banks.

Late last year, the European Central Bank embarked on the first of two funding operations to increase liquidity in the financial system and stave off a credit crunch, pumping in over one trillion euros of ultra-cheap three-year funds by the end of February.

Dubbed LTRO, or long-term refinancing operation, the funds were snapped up by some of Europe's biggest banks including Italy's UniCredit, France's BNP Paribas and Socit Gnrale, and La Caixa in Spain.

Despite that, gold has not tested US$1,900 per ounce levels since August and September, when a panic spawned by the eurozone debt crisis sent the precious metal to its record high.

Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp Ltd commodity analyst Barnabas Gan told StarBiz that gold had lost some of its lustre as a safe haven given the current risk in sentiments.

“The US dollar and Treasury bonds are currently our preferred safe havens to gold due to their relative price appreciation,” he said.

On chances that the Fed may announce further monetary easing after several closely-watched meetings, he said it was remote as the US government's Troubled Asset Relief Programme, a bailout programme launched in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, was still ongoing.

Nonetheless, he does not discount the possibility for a new round of QE come June in spite of the lack of official hints, as a declining inflation rate and relatively high unemployment may give the US central bank “more ammunition” for QE3.

“Should our suspicion for the implementation of a QE3 this year come to pass, we expect gold to revert from a risky asset to a safe-haven asset and rally above US$1,800 per ounce by year-end,” he said.

Another analyst however opined that gold prices were entering a “critical area” and had the potential to be volatile.

Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Ltd senior commodities strategist Nick Trevethan said prices were forming a triangle formation and could find support at US$1,600 per ounce if it fell below US$1.630 per ounce.

But he added that gold prices had held steady, due in part to the move by central banks in emerging countries to increase their gold reserves to 15% from 5% over a 10-year period.

“There is some buying by central banks but not on a large scale. They buy when the price dips, which has helped to prop up prices,” he said.

He added that the Fed would set the direction tomorrow, and no mention of a QE would doubtlessly be received “badly” by gold markets, which typically rallied in anticipation of measures to boost liquidity.

“A QE would not be politically popular right now,” he said.

(Bernama reported Tuesday morning in Kuala Lumpur: THE PRICE OF GOLD AS AT 9.30 A.M. STOOD AT RM156.12 PER GRAMME, UP 33 SEN FROM RM155.79 AT 5.00 P.M YESTERDAY

AP reported from New York: Most commodity prices fell Monday(Tuesday morning Malaysian time) because of troubling news about Europe's debt and the pace of manufacturing in China.

Investors worried that the challenges faced by the two regions could hurt the global economy, which would slow demand for commodities. Prices for gold, copper, silver, oil and soybeans fell.

Gold for June delivery fell $10.20 to finish at $1,632.60 an ounce, May copper dropped 7.2 cents to $3.626 per pound, May silver decreased $1.12, or 3.5 percent, to $30.531 per ounce, July platinum declined $27.90 to $1,556.30 an ounce and June palladium ended down $6 at $670.90 an ounce.)
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I read somewhere here many moons ago that due to global uncertainty, gold is a good buy due to certainty hmm.gif
furthermore, tis forum stated many nations buy it as part of their reserve and the price will go to moon blink.gif
no matter who wins in france elections, the winner won't let the euroweenies debt problem meletup biggrin.gif
it does not make sense for the usa federal reserve to do qe3 and make u guys rich shakehead.gif
the economy wil be on life support until usa election kicks out the anti capitalist socialist obama policies flex.gif

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/24/...E8390RW20120424

Gold edges down amid euro zone worries; Fed eyed

By Rujun Shen

SINGAPORE | Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:56am EDT

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Gold edged lower on Tuesday as investors waited for a U.S. Federal Reserve meeting to shed some light on the central bank's monetary policy amid caution over a resurfacing crisis in Europe.

The two-day Federal Open Market Committee meeting is scheduled to kick off later in the day. Though the Fed is expected to adopt a wait-and-see approach, its comments will be put under scrutiny as investors seek clues on possible quantitative easing measures.

"If the Fed fails to hint at more quantitative easing, we may see a sharp drop in gold prices," said Hou Xinqiang, an analyst at Jinrui Futures in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen.

Expectations of further monetary easing pushed gold to near $1,790 an ounce in February, its highest since November. But a string of upbeat economic data and less dovish comments from Fed officials have since shaved off gains and helped sink bullion to near $1,610 in early April.

Spot gold inched down 0.1 percent to $1,635.49 an ounce by 0624 GMT, after falling to $1,619.99 on Monday - its lowest since April 5. The $1,620-$1,630 level has proved to be a key support region.

U.S. gold edged up 0.2 percent to $1,636.30.

"Gold's short-term outlook is lackluster, as the economic problems in Europe again triggered worries among investors and put pressure on financial markets, and gold is not spared," the Jinrui analyst said.

Asian shares edged lower and the euro traded steady, as concerns over the euro zone debt crisis weighed on market sentiment.

Uncertainty over Europe's political will to battle through its debt crisis heightened, after the Dutch Prime Minister tendered his government's resignation on Monday, while the prospect of a Socialist president in France triggered worries that Paris might loosen its austerity commitment.

Investors were also disappointed at the latest data that showed the euro zone's business slump deepened at a far faster pace than expected in April, suggesting the economy will stay in recession at least until the second half of the year.

Anxiety over the euro zone has sent investors to seek safety in havens such as the dollar and U.S. Treasuries, while gold has moved largely in tandem with riskier assets in recent months.

On the physical market, the sharp drop overnight prompted some buying, but the flow of orders has slowed as prices rebounded, dealers said.

Spot silver lost 0.3 percent to $30.72 an ounce, off a three-month low of $30.45 hit in the previous session.

"The sentiment is rather bearish, and buyers are waiting for prices to fall further to near $30," said a Shanghai-based trader.

He added that market participants are reluctant to build up their books ahead of a long weekend in China and a holiday in Japan next week.

Spot platinum dropped to a three-month low of $1,544.75 an ounce, and later recovered to $1,550.25.

The gold-platinum spread widened to above $84, its highest in more than two months.
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Nothing to see here, guys. Move along.....

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buy more gold, since france voted in socialist president, maybe the usa reelect obama & kick out merkel next year laugh.gif
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-...pse-Europe.html
Europe's economic problems are about to get a whole lot worse..... voters are demanding precisely the high-tax and high-spend policies which caused the recession in the first place doh.gif

The root cause of Europe’s crisis is very simply stated: there is too much debt. In order to fund their growth, governments squeezed the private sector for all it was worth. When they exhausted its capacity, they started to tax future generations through borrowing. Sooner or later, of course, the money was bound to run out.

That moment arrived four years ago with the banking collapse. Yet, since then, governments have responded by accelerating all the policies which brought them to their present pass: more regulation, more debt, more Brussels intervention. As the economy deteriorates shocking.gif





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this kitco gold swing 1640-1660 when gld was at 160
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now kitco gold will swing from where to where? now that gld is 156
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well, then I got some puts options $17.54 strike $156 expiring Jan 18 2014 and expect it to hit support price of $140 thumbup.gif
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Europe’s debt crisis has heated up in recent weeks but investors appear to be favoring the U.S. dollar as a safe haven rather than gold hmm.gif
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-miner-s...-153126203.html
Exchange traded funds tracking gold, silver and miner stocks were among the steepest decliners Tuesday as global markets sold off on concerns the latest troubles in Greece will shatter the Eurozone.

In precious metals, SPDR Gold Shares (GLD - News) fell 2.5% while iShares Silver Trust (SLV - News) slipped 2.9%.

ETFs that invest in miner shares suffered even worse losses. Market Vectors Gold Miners (GDX - News) dropped 4.2% and Global X Silver Miners (SIL - News) declined 4.8%. Both ETFs set fresh 52-week lows on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, gold prices fell to a four-month low.

The future of Greece’s political leadership is in doubt following the weekend elections, raising fears the financially strapped country will exit the euro. On Tuesday, the ASE Index, a benchmark of Greek stocks, sank to its lowest level since 1992. Greece’s market is down about 90% from the peak in 2007. [Greece ETF Hits New Low on Euro Worries]

Europe’s debt crisis has heated up in recent weeks but investors appear to be favoring the U.S. dollar as a safe haven rather than gold. Currency ETFs such as PowerShares DB US Dollar Index Bullish (UUP - News) have benefited from this recent trend.

“Greece may default on its debt as early as next month,” said Steve Scacalossi, a vice president at TD Securities, in a Dow Jones Newswires report. “The weekly charts for gold and silver look menacing.”

“What we’ve seen in recent weeks is rallies have been increasingly weaker on the upside, and that is a warning that we are going to see another test on the downside,” added Daniel Smith at Standard Chartered in a Reuters report. “Gold didn’t benefit from the latest European problems and part of that is the U.S., which has been outperforming relatively speaking, so that is handing the dollar strength.”

a quick check on the etf does not show usd strong. euro looks ok
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interesting, treasuries are hitting new high, wonder why?
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here are some good news for u guys rclxms.gif
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/bu...-175347400.html
Buffett Is Wrong, Gold Prices Will Soar as European Austerity Dies

Warren Buffett is reiterated his stance against buying gold, after famously mocking the notion in his 2010 annual letter. He noted that the metal had no utility and, that being the case, no value as an investment.

Buffett wrote that an investor could buy all 400 million shares of U.S. cropland plus the equivalent of 16 Exxon Mobils (XOM) for the same price as the world's entire stock of gold. Buffett went on to say that in 100 years, the acreage would have produced an unimaginable bounty, the 16 Exxons would have produced trillions in cash, and the gold would "remain unchanged in size and would still be incapable of producing anything."

Anything except capital gains, according to Jared Dillian, author of the book Street Freak and the Dailydirtnap.com newsletter.

"Last time we talked, last September or October, you asked what I thought, and I was bullish," Dillian tells me in the attached clip. "Now it's $1,660, and I'm still bullish. I'm more bullish than ever."

The author says the political unrest in Europe makes gold a better play than ever. Of European pols in general, and Francios Hollande in particular, Dillian thinks, "These guys who are further to the left don't want anything to do with austerity at all. The answer is going to be growth."

In Central Banking terms "driving growth" is the same as "providing liquidity." The U.S. has Quantitative Easing; Europe has the LTRO. Either way it's "very similar to printing money." In other words, it's inflationary.

With the major Gold Miners ETF (GDX) sitting on 52-week lows and the Junior Gold Miners ETF (GDXJ) right there with it, Dillian bases his call on sentiment more than fundamentals. As a newsletter writer, he gets a ton of email regarding the miners, which characterizes the mood as something close to panic-stricken. A trader can either play such moods as capitulation or avoid the group as a collection of falling knives.

It may not be how the purest of gold enthusiasts would play it, but Dillian is betting in miners and believes it is going to lead to sharp recoveries.
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I love it when a plan cums together wub.gif first support 1500, second support 1400 and then I can consider join u guys to be gold bug tongue.gif
I remember a forumer quote : "The best one can say is the (chart) trend seems to be in very broad terms from the lower left to upper right. That's the best one can say, and anything more than that will make you look foolish." tongue.gif
as for now 1600 has turn from support to resistance, whether it can turn around or not, only time will tell flex.gif sink baby sink

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wonder why kitco gold price follow gld to holland rclxub.gif how come not follow the gold bug bull script hmm.gif
the options is worth $20.50 for a gain of 16% in less than 2 weeks icon_idea.gif http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=GLD&m=2014-01

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well, then I got some puts options $17.54 strike $156 expiring Jan 18 2014 and expect it to hit support price of $140  thumbup.gif
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Warren Buffett is reiterated his stance against buying gold, after famously mocking the notion in his 2010 annual letter. He noted that the metal had no utility and, that being the case, no value as an investment.

Buffett wrote that an investor could buy all 400 million shares of U.S. cropland plus the equivalent of 16 Exxon Mobils (XOM) for the same price as the world's entire stock of gold. Buffett went on to say that in 100 years, the acreage would have produced an unimaginable bounty, the 16 Exxons would have produced trillions in cash, and the gold would "remain unchanged in size and would still be incapable of producing anything."

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