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Model Kits LYN Aircraft Modelling Thread, Death from above !!!! ......
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minizian
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Oct 29 2005, 07:49 PM
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last time i buy 1 tamiya Su-34 build half oredi but i abandon it becos too lazy.... anyway how much is a paint cost?????? and how long is the time to make a nice model?? last ym my relative is Academy main distributer in malaysia(yep the 5B company) i always ask for teh kit whenever i wanted to do but now tehy stop importing liao there 1 modeling shop in Mid vally they i think beside tamiya shop.. the completed model they do is just cool wat is the deffrence betwenn the brands like tamiya, academy, trupeer and etc???? This post has been edited by minizian: Oct 29 2005, 07:50 PM
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minizian
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Oct 30 2005, 09:25 PM
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hey is Tamiya kits still avalable in Malaysia after ots official presence is no more becos toy city stop importing Tamiya prodcut oredi.....
H0w should i start modeling i have made alot of model but all usually sucks (with no painting) and how much to cost if 1 set included all teh paiting essencial???? where got sell some all in 1 pak for modelling??? (which include all the twezzer cutter and etc???
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minizian
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Oct 31 2005, 11:15 AM
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heh i am going to chap lap when going to buy those high queality product.... anyway is there any hobby shop selling those cheap kit tat are suitable for mee those chinise brand u mension wan..... those Rm20++++ anyway is the City Squre beside the roadside and also Ampang park???? maybe ask my parent to suport my spending wakakaka  any of you want to sponser all my kit
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minizian
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Oct 31 2005, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(teddie @ Oct 31 2005, 06:24 PM) any1 intersted with commercial airplane??? i am interested on stewedess not comecial airplane
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minizian
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Nov 1 2005, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(teddie @ Nov 1 2005, 08:28 AM) ermmm sorry, wat is revell monogram? its actually "Revell" and "monogram" are defrent but dunno how they combine to each other????
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minizian
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Nov 2 2005, 09:53 PM
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minizian
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Nov 2 2005, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvw @ Nov 2 2005, 09:58 PM) yeah MiniatureHobby/HobbyHQ still carries Academy kits. Anyone going to the LIMA airshow? yeah i am going lo they got sell model ar???????? : This post has been edited by minizian: Nov 3 2005, 12:24 PM
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minizian
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Nov 3 2005, 12:24 PM
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going there just to see MiG-29 some Sukhoi plane proform
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minizian
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Nov 3 2005, 01:41 PM
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i juist wonder how long for u guys to paint a model aircraft ???? becos i nvr pint beforeso i dunno
who wan to sponser me buying model goods for me to fill the holiday
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minizian
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Nov 4 2005, 10:11 AM
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actually i build the model express and just forget teh final product my model all ugly becos of my speed build...... Based on my relative who destribute the academy product he say Tamiya refuse to sell its product to Toycity anyone know why.... Going to shanghai next week i wonder if there can get a cheap trumpeter model or other chinise product.......
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minizian
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Nov 4 2005, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(kuman @ Nov 4 2005, 10:27 AM)  i sometime also do speed building... sometimes cannot sabar to see the final product... when its turn out to be ugly... then realize need to be slow and steady..  then have to buy the same model kit again and then build again in a slower pace..  so.. your relative still distribute ACADEMY product? they willing to supply us with cheaper Academy model kits??  maybe can find cheaper one there in China.. since most of the "not-top-of-the-line" are from there...  have a good time hunting for model kits there..  kuman kuman eh abt the Academy item i dun think he will giv cheaper becos the price he giv me also normal price 1/32 cost RM400+++  but i tell him tat alot of ppl like the product and he also abit  but no 1 really know abt Academy so the bisnuess is in a average level  .... abt the china thingy i hav sent u a PM do u paint on the model after assambly????
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minizian
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Nov 4 2005, 05:48 PM
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Me must start wif the uber low quality porduct so tat i can learn to assamble nicely.... i guess the Airbrush set will cost a nuclear bomb  if mme i think i pokai liao  but those Revel "kit pak" are useful for newcommer. But for me i buy before some 1/144 scale from revel wif the "kit Pak" the end product not really nice wif teh paint Eh i buy before aircombat coleection only the Issue 1 then stop buying becos some moeny problem... So maybe i need to go for Trumpeter, Kitech and Zengenfu product.... p.s how much is the price of a typical Trumpeter model???? is there anymore young modeler like me i am 15 years old  ... This post has been edited by minizian: Nov 4 2005, 05:52 PM
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minizian
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Nov 4 2005, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(kuman @ Nov 4 2005, 10:46 PM) Cobra, And a couple of Tank from the World of tank series. kuman lol i tot world of warcraft aiyak 4got to ask how much is a typical price of trumpeter?? my 1st model is academy 1/44 given by my relative and also i got screw up just like db07mufan model....  curently i have alot of academy model which all messed up and 1 tamiya Su-34 not yet finish also lazy and finaly 1 academy vietnam era helicopter which i tooo lazy to assamble... This post has been edited by minizian: Nov 4 2005, 11:14 PM
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minizian
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Nov 5 2005, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(kuman @ Nov 5 2005, 07:33 AM) life must be great to have a lot of high quality model...  anyway to salvage those models? what scale are they? the helicopter you refering to must be the Bell "Huey" good model...  hmm.. i heard from someone that the Jaya Jusco/Parkson branch might have it or any other supermarket.... but i noticed that not all Parkson have those in stock.. anyway... good hunting..  kuman The Academy thing i build it all and fogot liao lo i speed build all and meseed up like shit....  Dun wan to take the risk wif the Huey chopper.. so i keep it Jusco got sell those chinise brand le i tot they only carry Revell model there only wan.  p.s i wish there have 1/20 scale aircraft model (sure very big wan) This post has been edited by minizian: Nov 5 2005, 10:13 AM
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minizian
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Nov 7 2005, 01:23 PM
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i found some zengdenfu model review..... [ZHENGDEFU 1:72 MIG-31 FOXHOUND 'INBOX Review'

Reviewer: Mark B (SMAKR Webmaster) (smakr@bigpond.com) Fully built kit review also exists on this site
Kit: Zhengdefu 1/72 No.DF320 MIG-31 Foxhound
This is the first time I will have any exposure to this kit manufacturer, out of China. I understand most of their molds are copied from mainstream manufacturers so it will be interesting to see how this kit goes together. It comes in a big blue box, which at first glance I thought was a Revell kit - unfortunately not. On the plus side the kit was some third the price of perhaps a Revell kit of similar size (which is saying something!). What a bargain!! So no judgements on the kit really until it is made up!
Parts: 1 plastic bag contains everything within it, including instructions, decal sheet, tube of glue (yes one small tube was included) and clear parts, although thankfully the clear parts are separately bagged. There are 82 light grey injected parts on three sprues, with very minor flash in some locating holes that will be easy enough to clean up, plus one sprue of two clear parts making up the canopy.
Instructions: This is an approximately sized A3 sheet folded to make a booklet. Everything is covered in Chinese and English. Front page includes a very brief note on the aircraft, symbol explanation and sprue diagram. Half a dozen assembly steps grace the middle spread which also includes notations for colours. There is no paint range quoted, they are simply generic colour names. The arrows are pretty good but some insufficient exactness will frustrate novice modellers with regards to positioning of some of the items (like aerials etc) especially components that are butt joined but generally its easy to follow. The final page features a three view colours and marking diagram which includes missile markings.
Versions: The kit caters for only one version, an unidentified MiG-31 with red 23 as its forward fuselage serial number. Unfortunately the instructions do not even tell you what colour scheme to paint the model, but one would expect it would be finished in an aircraft grey similar to the Foxbat, and also as depicted in the picture at the bottom of this page.
Decals: A very small decal sheet is included that is remarkably similar to a Propagteam sheet, and I would anticipate of similar quality. Colour register is very good but very very slightly off (being quite picky here). As I said it is a small sheet and essentially only three categories are covered - Instrument consoles, forward fuselage red 23 and six red stars!
Detail: The kit stands up quite well as far as surface detail is concerned although panel lines are raised. Small rivet detail is provided on the forward fuselage and wingtips to good effect. The main wheel wells also contain some plumbing but the nosewheel simply has structural crossbeams. The cockpit is "Hasegawa" sparse with simply floor (with molded on rudder pedals), two seats (one with very crude seam line) and sticks. There are side panels for both pilot and rear-seater with minimal and unrealistic raised console detail - but at least it has something. A very small instrument panel is provided for the pilot only, and this has no console detail whatsoever. As stated in the decal section above, a decal is provided for each of the side panels and pilot main instrument panel (this decal is twice the size of the panel!!) consoles. The seats are basic and are simply three-piece bucket seats - you affix the sides to the seat. The cockpit would benefit from an aftermarket set. Louvre detail is provided on the intake vanes and some raised fan detail is provided for the engine exhaust.
Options: It is possible to display both canopies open but there are no struts to put in place for this. For stores options, the kit provides for the four underwing pylons to be filled, which includes a pair of large fuel tanks, a pair of AA-6 missiles and as well as four smaller AA-9 missiles for four underfuselage pylons.
Accuracy: I haven't got the measuring stick out to check out the dimensions, wait until the build up. I already spotted a few glaring inaccuracies, such as the underfuselage stores are on pylons (see the image below, they are actually embedded into the fuselage), the inner wall of the intake being straight when it should be a snaking curve, omission of small strakes on the sides of the intake, raised outlet duct on top of the intakes when they should be depressed and I am sure there will be plenty more. On this basis, one would suggest you go and buy one of the relatively newer releases.
Impressions: The parts do suffer a little from some ejector pin marks which are found mainly on the inside of parts, eg: inside of wings, inside the forward fuselage, on the landing gear and so forth, but nothing too sinister. I did test fit a couple of parts, including the forward fuselage and the inner wing portions and these went on perfectly so hopefully that is what is in store for the kit.
The parts breakdown and make up of the kit differs a bit to the other two MiG-31 kits previewed on this site (Condor and Zvezda) so one assumes this is not a copy of either of those. The forward fuselage is split vertically to house the cockpit and the nose radome being affixed to the front. The main fuselage is split horizontally into upper and lower halves. The wings are two piece, which is really just a small lower piece placed inside the main upper section. The intakes are large and I am anticipating this will be where some problems might be encountered, if any.
Other Comments: I've had no dealings with Zhengdefu in the past and the word from other modellers in rms suggest they copy molds [possibly pirated] from other manufacturers and churn out an inferior product. This cost $7 AUD which is damn cheap for a kit of this size down here leading me to think perhaps it is a copied mold. Revell are the only brand that released a MiG-31 previously, and while I have not seen that mold first hand, I am having a guess it is probably a copy of that one, as the parts breakdown do not match the other newer released kits. I DO NOT condone purchasing pirated copied kits, but in the interests of bringing you information and an unbiased review, the deed had to be done on this one. In the box, it looks great but I have some reservations, so we will wait and see how it pans out in the build. So stay tuned!
[/I] credit to this webistie Zhengdefu 1/72 MiG-31 reviewThis is the russian make Zvezda MiG 1.44  Background
Even the most jaded booster of American fighter aircraft has to admit that, for the past twenty years, the ex-Evil Empire's really been "getting with the (fighter) program." They had to, of course, because since 1976 the F-15 in the hands of not only the hometown boys, but also the Israelis had been beating the performance of existing Soviet/Russian fighters like a drum. First came the Fulcrum, and then its bigger, badder brother, the Flanker, which offered the first serious threat to Western fighter supremacy. As in the game of Poker, the F-22 Raptor "saw" the Flanker and "raised" the stakes considerably, as has European development of the Eurofighter and Rafale.
Russia's answer to the American ATF program which spawned the F-22, was the development (started in 1986) of a fifth generation, Multi-role fighter (MFI) which has since morphed into the Mig 1.44, a fly-by-wire, fire-and-forget, vectored thrust weapon system. Although F-22 development and production funding has, and will continue to be a problem, it pales in comparison to the gigantic financial obstacles facing Russia's post-1991military structure. Accordingly, the secretive Mig 1.44's first flight, originally planned for 1996, didn't occur until 2000. Further development and series production is cloudy to say the least. [I]FirstLook
This curmudgeon really wishes Zvezda would move up to 1/48 releases, 'cause this surely looks like a nice kit and would be a perfect companion to the F-22, Typhoon and Rafale. Overall airframe shape and detailing of this close-held aircraft may be assumed to be accurate, since Zvezda states that the model was developed with the blessings of the Mikoyan Design Bureau.

Molding
Excellent!
Crisp with essentially zero flash. Engraving is very petite and sharp, in keeping with the smaller scale. Sprue attachment points are fairly small, equal to those of Tamiyagawa. None of those European limited production releases wherein the spigots are gigantic, often larger than the part to which they are joined. Instead of alignment pins, there are corner guides, which allow for minute adjustments when gluing. There are a few light sink marks on the two smaller underwing pylons, but that's an easy fix. Surface texture is flat, in the manner of glass-beaded molds, but seems to be much finer than that of, say, Fonderies Miniature. In any event, the airframe is not NMF, but intermediate blue over light ghost gray, and the fine texture of the parts makes for excellent paint holding qualities. Assembly Breakdown
The fuselage features side-by-side forward halves and top/bottom aft sections. The delta wings are essentially one piece with cleverly designed smaller bottom inserts that shouldn't require any filling. Two of the three edges of the inserts form the natural gap that exists between the slats, flaperons, and their junctures with the main wing assembly. The third "gap" is covered by a weapons pylon. The cockpit tub (four-piece seat; I'd probably substitute one of the nice and "busy" resin aftermarket K-36 seats) is straightforward with no molded instrument/console detail, using decals instead, as in Zvezda's previously released Mig-31 Foxhound. Finely detailed, two-piece afterburner assemblies offer two configurations.
Intake
The multipiece intake trunk strongly resembles that of the Eurofighter and is cleverly shaped, using bowed vari-ramps to hide the fact that there's no uninterrupted smooth tunnel to the compressor faces which are glued to the main gear wells.
Landing Gear
All gear strut assemblies are multipiece which, in 1/72, calls for some delicate glue application. Wheel wells are added to the fuselage assembly from the inside and have minimal piping details.
Clear Parts
The windscreen and canopy are separate, fairly thin and exceptionally clear. For those wishing to go the open canopy route, two simple raising mechanisms are included. A display stand is included for those desiring an in-flight presentation.
Decals and Color Guide
Exterior colors are called out and listed in Model Master paint reference numbers, but no advice is given re cockpit, intake and wheel well colors. The decal sheet is small but certainly adequate, especially for a 1/72 model of a secretive aircraft. Two marking schemes are offered.
Instructions
The instruction booklet has eight pages of easily understood assembly drawings with minimal bilingual text and decent three-views for marking/color reference.
Conclusion
This curmudgeonly fan of Russian aircraft is impressed! Zvezda is very, very close in overall quality to the Big Dogs of the industry. Now, won't some enterprising Russian/Ukrainian outfit please do one in 1/48 scale? Recommended.
NOTE: Zvenda and Ilteleri (dunno the speeling) are a partner just like Revil and Monogram so certain Zevezda product will appear as Itteleri product becos its the only reseler outside Russia....
[/I] credited to Zvenzda MiG 1.44 reviewwish can buy this model in malaysia.... anyway why this thread suddenly dying up wan??? This post has been edited by minizian: Nov 7 2005, 03:35 PM
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minizian
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Nov 7 2005, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(kuman @ Nov 7 2005, 02:01 PM) good review for a third class model kits..  i myself have been trying to find that Zvezda model for quite sometime... apparently it didnt make it to Malaysian shore for some reason..  i wish i can buy that Zhengdefu MIG model... its also quite hard to come by these days... its not dying,... just going through a hiatus period....  maybe everyone is busy building their model kits somewhere..  kuman i wish tat i have tones of model to build but to bad wat i doing now is just keep BF2 ing....
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minizian
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Nov 23 2005, 08:51 AM
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dood i am back  too bad i cannot find those chinise model becos of time issue loking forward to LIMA this year i hope to see SU-27 and MiG-29 in action.. dunno whereter those Russian Knight acro team will come to malaysia becos last time they come This post has been edited by minizian: Nov 23 2005, 08:52 AM
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minizian
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Nov 23 2005, 06:48 PM
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i think thye sell the "REAL" plane rather then a model
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minizian
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Nov 24 2005, 11:14 AM
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Tamiya prodeuct are very expensive becos Toycity stop importing Tamiya product due to some dispute betewwn the them
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