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Vervain
post Nov 12 2011, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Nov 12 2011, 11:32 AM)

The weight of the car can be calculated by measuring the tyre ground area & tyre pressure.
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Huh? Can calculate in this way meh?
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post Nov 12 2011, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Nov 10 2011, 03:57 PM)
I have one which looks exactly like this!

Unfortunately car running OBD1.
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post Nov 12 2011, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Nov 12 2011, 11:32 AM)
The weight of the car can be calculated by measuring the tyre ground area & tyre pressure.
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I thought vehicle's curb weight is often specified in the car brochures (Heck, you can even find it in Wikipedia)?

Empty your boot and just add driver's weight to it can?
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post Nov 12 2011, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Nov 9 2011, 02:20 PM)
use your iphone if you have one
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I got the software. Its completely useless.
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post Nov 12 2011, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 12 2011, 04:46 PM)
wana sell to me? brows.gif
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Sure,I have no use for it!

Shoot me a pm!
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post Nov 12 2011, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 12 2011, 04:56 PM)
I thought vehicle's curb weight is often specified in the car brochures (Heck, you can even find it in Wikipedia)?

Empty your boot and just add driver's weight to it can?
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If have wider tyres will be different again..... brows.gif
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post Nov 13 2011, 09:33 AM

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Different countries have different accessories. In Europe Aircon is optional so it would be lighter than Malaysia version.


QUOTE(dares @ Nov 12 2011, 04:56 PM)
I thought vehicle's curb weight is often specified in the car brochures (Heck, you can even find it in Wikipedia)?

Empty your boot and just add driver's weight to it can?
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post Nov 13 2011, 04:31 PM

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So, actual dyno will still be the most accurate.....
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post Nov 13 2011, 09:42 PM

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If you have your engine rpm & speed logged, together with car + driver weight, & aerodynamic drag you can calculate relatively accurate data, not sure how often the dynos are calibrated.

Just a sidenote for dynos where do they plug in the engine to read the rpm?
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post Nov 13 2011, 10:25 PM

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To me, benchmarking solely on hp alone is pure crap. In the real world, Power to weight ratio, 0-100 or quarter mile time are the benchmark. Whats the use having a 300 hp with a 2.5 tonne weight, when a sub 1tonne car with half the HP can easily out maneuver and perform better than the big hp car? Not to mention, a low HP car with a high torque makes urban driving much more fun.
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post Nov 14 2011, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 13 2011, 04:31 PM)
So, actual dyno will still be the most accurate.....
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also depends on the dyno. so far innertia based ones are most accurate. like dyno dynamics.
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post Nov 14 2011, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 13 2011, 10:25 PM)
To me, benchmarking solely on hp alone is pure crap. In the real world, Power to weight ratio, 0-100 or quarter mile time are the benchmark. Whats the use having a 300 hp with a 2.5 tonne weight, when a sub 1tonne car with half the HP can easily out maneuver and perform better than the big hp car? Not to mention, a low HP car with a high torque makes urban driving much more fun.
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Very true......
Jajay Chong Hon Keat
post Dec 6 2011, 10:35 PM

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Anybody know how to get dyno? Can share with me please =)
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 6 2011, 10:35 PM)
Anybody know how to get dyno? Can share with me please =)
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go to sunway and ask around "where got dyno?" and u'll find it...............
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post Dec 7 2011, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Dec 7 2011, 12:39 AM)
go to sunway and ask around "where got dyno?" and u'll find it...............
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The problem now is I am living at Sabah now. icon_question.gif
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post Dec 7 2011, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 7 2011, 02:21 AM)
The problem now is I am living at Sabah now.  icon_question.gif
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Somehow a bit of a problem there. I have some members from Labuan, Kuching also, and some mention have to travel further to source for service or parts also....
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post Dec 7 2011, 09:05 AM

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Because there is no much highways for us to speed. Our highways just have two lines only plus our roads are too good already until I don't know how to say. 3months need to alignment a times.
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post Dec 7 2011, 09:34 AM

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Understand, as I was in KK a few years back for an assignment, but for a few days only.
As far as I know the sales personnel who took me around, mentioned the road to Sandakan very winding so good to play but dangerous...... hmm.gif
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post Dec 7 2011, 11:52 AM

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Ya... Tat's y most of the people here r driving 4X4 cars... Small car nid to alignment everything especially sportcars..
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QUOTE(advocado @ Nov 13 2011, 09:42 PM)
If you have your engine rpm & speed logged, together with car + driver weight, & aerodynamic drag you can calculate relatively accurate data, not sure how often the dynos are calibrated.

Just a sidenote for dynos where do they plug in the engine to read the rpm?
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Actually that's how inertia dyno like Dynojet works. Instead of car+driver weight, it uses the roller's fixed weight.

I've done this to my Exora Bold CFE. Using home-made Excel. Something like this :

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The formulas are explained here : http://www.herberts.org/wayne/valk/valktorque.htm

I added aerodynamic drag & rolling resistance formulas for final values. Looks pretty accurate to me.

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