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SUSadvocado
post Nov 8 2011, 03:54 PM, updated 14y ago

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Just wondering is it possible to calculate a car's wheel horsepower without running on dynos? Say if you are reading tru the ECU? I believe by recording the rpm together with the speed the same time you can find out the power band? But do the ECU log speed or just the speedometer, for non electronic speedo?
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post Nov 8 2011, 04:26 PM

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So if you reading tru the ECU you won't get the data required to calculate or plot the graph?
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post Nov 12 2011, 11:32 AM

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Where do you connect this to, the ECU? Is it standard for most cars? What kind of data does it log other than RPM?

The weight of the car can be calculated by measuring the tyre ground area & tyre pressure.


QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Nov 10 2011, 03:36 PM)
used OBD2 socket, but u need to buy OBD2 wifi /Bluetooth transmitter and need to install apps like "torque" for Android and "rev" for I Phone..

the transmitter is like this.. :

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post Nov 13 2011, 09:33 AM

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Different countries have different accessories. In Europe Aircon is optional so it would be lighter than Malaysia version.


QUOTE(dares @ Nov 12 2011, 04:56 PM)
I thought vehicle's curb weight is often specified in the car brochures (Heck, you can even find it in Wikipedia)?

Empty your boot and just add driver's weight to it can?
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post Nov 13 2011, 09:42 PM

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If you have your engine rpm & speed logged, together with car + driver weight, & aerodynamic drag you can calculate relatively accurate data, not sure how often the dynos are calibrated.

Just a sidenote for dynos where do they plug in the engine to read the rpm?
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post May 24 2012, 09:45 AM

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How do you log the rpm and time it properly with velocity?


QUOTE(taqu @ May 24 2012, 03:03 AM)
Actually that's how inertia dyno like Dynojet works. Instead of car+driver weight, it uses the roller's fixed weight.

I've done this to my Exora Bold CFE. Using home-made Excel. Something like this :

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The formulas are explained here : http://www.herberts.org/wayne/valk/valktorque.htm

I added aerodynamic drag & rolling resistance formulas for final values. Looks pretty accurate to me.
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post May 24 2012, 08:46 PM

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I don't think any reader that only monitors acceleration will be accurate as there's no other input to the data.

Important parameter other than acceleration should be time synched rpm. With this 2 data you should be able to tune the engine properly, even if the weight data is not available, just you won't get the real horsepower but good enough for tuning.

 

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