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flashaholic
post Nov 30 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 7 2011, 07:59 PM)
You ask me ah? I am not an expert leh, so many other sifus around..... blush.gif

As far as I know you may feel smoother acceleration but whether harmful or not you have to find out, but I can contribute the following story.
My mechanic's brother is a technical guy, so following the same theory, he modified and made a module sort of like the one shown to increase the spark. Yes, according to him smoother acceleration, but he melted his spark plugs after running a few km only.....Maybe he over did it, I am not sure, but he took it out and replace the spark plugs..... biggrin.gif

Anyway, there are also theory that mention bigger spark not necessary will complete the burning of the air fuel ratio in the combustion chamber.... sad.gif
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The main reason for spark plug electrodes wear and tear, valve seat seal damage and piston heads experiencing pit holes in it is due to an extremely lean air-fuel mixture combustion.

In order to melt the electrodes, he would have had to run on overboost in a turbo engine with extremely lean air-fuel mixture. But for the issue to happen in only a few kilometres would be very doubtful.

In a way, I agree that to completely burn all the air-fuel mixture may not or not be possible, but the FireStorm Booster does increase the acceleration of the vehicle and you can experience a faster and smoother ride when compared to before installation.

Even for anyone off the streets who does not know anything about cars, they can feel the distinct difference in faster and smoother acceleration after the FireStorm Booster in installed.

As I have mentioned before, the only ones who dont or cant feel the difference are the ones expecting acceleration from gains of 5hp or more and also those who do not know/care about how their cars perform.

** When I met up with many of the LYN Forummers in KL the past week, I found some to have had very heavily modified engines and were obviously very heavy-footed in their driving skills. Truthfully, they would not be able to accept the gains after installing any aftermarket power enhancing devices if the power gains were not substantial.

No disrespect to anyone or any products and my apologies in advance, but I have been an enthusiast in fuel saving and power enhancing products since 1993 and I have tested many of the products that change the air intake ratio, increase the spark voltage or stabilize the battery voltage and found many of these products do not produce what they claim or that these products produce way much lesser than what was claimed.

Only once in a while when I come across a product that works to my expectation, then do I start to promote it to the public so that they too can experience power gains and fuel savings.

Back in 2004 when I was a dealer for the Discovery Air Power Injector, many people were skeptical because this same product was sold by car accessory shops whereby the installers were inexperienced in tuning the device and had caused the product to be shunned by the public. I went out to prove the skeptics wrong as I know how to tune the Air Power Injector and I had sold and won over the confidence of many of those skeptics.

My logic is simple.... why buy a product if it doesnt work? And how can I say a product works or does not if I have not even tested it? This was the reason why I made a trip down to KL the past week to meet those in this Forum who stated their interest to test this product.

However, sadly, many missed the opportunity for a free test which I offered as they did not turn up. But for those who had tested the FireStorm Booster, they were convinced and even gave a good review of the product. Of course, except for those as mentioned in the above paragraph ** whereby they had a higher expectation than what the product could deliver.

This is a Malaysian made product. I am NOT the manufacturer. I would be a rich man if I made this product.

Cheers.

flashaholic
post Nov 30 2011, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 11 2011, 08:05 AM)
Increase the voltage but ampere lower because higher ampere damage engine.
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You are correct.
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post Nov 30 2011, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Nov 9 2011, 11:13 AM)
higher voltage, higher ampere.

Can the coils take the abuse/.?
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I do agree that in basic electronics, more voltage equal more current.

Haltech HPI, MSD etc type of high voltage igniters work on that principle of pumping higher voltage into the primary windings of the ignition coil to get higher voltage output from the secondary coil. This manner of voltage boosting also boosts much higher currents and will eventually kill something more than just the ignition coils.

The FireStorm Booster does not work in this manner. It works by way of resonance and if you look at the principle of PWM where the increase in efficiency of the voltage frequency lowers the amount of current consumed yet increases the output voltage of the ignition coil.

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post Nov 30 2011, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(goohtj @ Nov 11 2011, 02:36 PM)
According to the seller,
the device is connected to the ignition fuse. in serie (after viewing the video).
thus this will boost up the whole voltage to the ignition circuit.

if using coil type, should not be a problem, but electronic ignition type,,,??? don't know if high voltage will fry the electronic components.

anyway this is an interesting gadget.
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Note that the FireStorm Booster does not have any grounding cables so it is not a capacitive device as capacitors need to be wired to ground to work. Please dont ask me how this device is designed as I am not the designer/manufacturer.

All petrol engines use an ignition coil to fire the spark plugs. Electronic ignitions are basically a CDI or TCI timing unit, also known as pre-igniters, to time the sparking and provide the drive voltage and current to the ignition coil. It is the ignition coil that fires the spark plug with its high secondary voltage.

NO, the FireStorm Booster had been designed and tested to not damage any other electrical components. I would not represent this product if it damages any other electrical components in the engine.

Cheers.

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post Nov 30 2011, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(upontheriversky @ Nov 26 2011, 12:48 AM)
cost control probably? manufacturer may only need to make sure engine operation and FC is above par by comparing to other brand in the same class, any extra budget can go to comfort value i.e. better interior etc which probly has higher selling point

not all consumer applaud to higher spark voltage as compared to "a sleek modern design dashboard with integrated cup holder" especially in non-sport vehicle biggrin.gif
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Yes, very well said and true.

Local car manufacturers try to have as little external parts to their already weak design to minimise parts failure. If this device or design was to be incorporated into the engine design, you would be paying at the very least, an extra RM2K-RM3K more due to the cost of R&D and integration.

Don't forget also that in Bolehland, the "grease" is very important if you want to sell your product to any GLC.

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post Nov 30 2011, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(bladekiller @ Nov 30 2011, 05:25 PM)
bro flashaholic,
hope u know that the purpose i open this thread is to seek for others opinion. & Appreciate you have provided yr input on this. i'm still a newbie so seeking the other more experienced members input is crucial.
*im saying this in case! in future i wanna buy from u, to avoid misunderstanding*
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Hey bro, dont worry. I am NOT offended. I am open to suggestions and discussions.

In fact I like people to query and have doubts about my product. You know why? Because when they finally test the product, they will then know that I am telling the truth then my product will be even more trusted by others.

It is good that you ask around to try to get some answers. There are some knowledgeable people in this Forum and they can offer some of their expertise and opinions.

Anyway, that was the reason I offered a free test of this FireStorm Booster last week when I was in KL so that those who dont know about this product can test it for free, no need to buy.

Even if they decide to buy, I want them to be happy when they buy it only because it works for them. If they paiseh have to buy just because they already test the product and find little improvement, then I wont sell to them. I have to take care of customers and my own name also.

I am not a conman or fly-by-night seller. Even when meeting up with Notoriez, Szern, cunix, IEIE, wimk, sparket and a few other, not all of them buy the product. The reason is because the product did not meet their expectations and I would not ask them to buy also.

So bro, dont worry, no harm done. In fact, I thank you for coming in to explain. Cool, OK?

Maybe next time I am in KL, you come over to test the FireStorm Booster then you tell me what you feel. Free test, no need to buy. Dont paiseh or else chiak ka ki! Hehe.

Cheers.

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post Nov 30 2011, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(bladekiller @ Nov 30 2011, 06:06 PM)
sure!
actually wanted to go for the test drive, but did not have time to go.
hopefully yr nx visit is some good dates laugh.gif
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Next year during March school holidays! Hehehe.
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post Nov 30 2011, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 30 2011, 06:45 PM)
Miss that day too as had something up. Maybe next round give us a longer head start on when you are coming....
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Sure, sure. Will let you guys know earlier.

That day was a rush decision because my wife at the last minute said she wanted to take a break and visit her siste in KL. The last time we went to KL was in December 2010.

So now I can 90% confirm I will be in KL for the March school holidays in 2012. Hehe.

Cheers.

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post Nov 30 2011, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Nov 30 2011, 08:04 PM)
now dats wat i call seller! lol. nice explainations. not like wat in ur selling thread, onli 1 line statement.. tongue.gif
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If too early in the post before any testing by members are done and before any positive reviews are made by the members who have bought the product, there is a high chance of getting flamed and ridiculed. Not that I'm scared or worried about this, but its not constructive and damaging to the product name.

Most of the newbies to electromechanical and engine technology would not understand much of what is explained and causes even more confusion. I have had a few PM asking what I was explaining about. For the past 4 nights, I have been up till 2am replying to PM and requests for price and confirming sales of this product to LYN Forummers in Perlis, KL, Terengganu, Pahang, Johor and even to Miri in Sarawak!

Very tired fingers and brain! Haha.

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post Dec 12 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Nov 9 2011, 11:13 AM)
higher voltage, higher ampere.

Can the coils take the abuse/.?
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In case you guys arent following the main thread on the FireStorm Booster anymore, this reading of the voltage and current I took this afternoon should quell all your queries and theories.

I just tested on my Kancil 660M which has improvement in acceleration, meaning more torque throughout the entire RPM band, especially from idling and accelerating all the way up.

On idle, without the FireStorm Booster, the voltage measured at the incoming power to the ignition coil was 13.98V and current drawn was 1.98A but after installing the FireStorm Booster, the output voltage was 13.25V and current drawn was 1.85A and this means that the ignition coil is running cooler after installing the FireStorm Booster because both the voltage and current have dropped lower.

The voltage drop of 0.73V and current drop of 0.13A means that the ignition coil is running 0.095W cooler than before the installation of the FireStorm Booster.

I hope this dispells anymore doubts and theories that anyone may have regarding the FireStorm Booster melting plugs and burning out ignition coils, ECUs etc.

Have a great day!

Cheers.


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