Jul 5 2012, 02:01 AM
QUOTE(jceh83 @ Jul 3 2012, 06:47 PM)
Well lacking of power and lacking of hybrid is a matter of perception...this car was marketed as a "sporty hybrid" not a "sport hybrid"...some of our car club members used to drive or are still driving more powerful sports car and they are also finding a little underpower...my take is that they have driven more powerful car before hence when they got in the CRZ they find it lacking...bare in mind, this is a 1.5l engine...
With my 80% urban spirited drive, I get around 500km++ easily using less than 35l of petrol easily...I get stuck at Shah Alam Toll and LDP every weekday...hence mileage also ok la...
Travelling from Cameron Highland a couple of weekends ago I hit up to 17km/l which is good though..doing roughly 120-140kmph..
Well, if you are to read more, you would know this car was built to be tuned, the modifications on the CRZ is almost endless and is fast being taken up all over the world for its cheap price so that it can be modded...in some articles that I've read, it comes in 2nd for car being modded after the VW GTi...
Hope the 3rd gen would not be coming after 11 years...btw CRZ is the 2nd gen, CRX was the 1st gen
Yeah I'd driven my friend's CRZ and certainly tasted the fun to drive tagline of this car. 6-speed manual transmission with decent torque for pick up, packed inside a hot-hatch body for easy maneuver, this is probably the good choice for green sport car. But it's not for the long run I'm afraid. The torque provided by the IMA is nothing like supercharger, and it will run out of juice easily if not being charged frequently. The 1.5L engine doesn't have a decent mid-high acceleration like Civic, so the feeling is neither here or there. With my 80% urban spirited drive, I get around 500km++ easily using less than 35l of petrol easily...I get stuck at Shah Alam Toll and LDP every weekday...hence mileage also ok la...
Travelling from Cameron Highland a couple of weekends ago I hit up to 17km/l which is good though..doing roughly 120-140kmph..
Well, if you are to read more, you would know this car was built to be tuned, the modifications on the CRZ is almost endless and is fast being taken up all over the world for its cheap price so that it can be modded...in some articles that I've read, it comes in 2nd for car being modded after the VW GTi...
Hope the 3rd gen would not be coming after 11 years...btw CRZ is the 2nd gen, CRX was the 1st gen
And I actually thought this car can get 21-22km/l for highway runners because that's what the salesman told me! He said this car can get better FC compare to Insight because it's lighter and have 6 speed.
QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 4 2012, 03:05 PM)
No, it is not a matter of perception. It is underpowered and lugging around so much weight, it also has really poor power to weight ratio (the universal gauge for assessing a car's 'feel' of power). A 16 year old 1.6 Satria is still faster (way better power to weight ratio) and that was not even considered to be in the hot-hatch category.
And no, this car is not built to be tuned. Slapping on a blower to make 200hp is not called tuning, it's just plain bolt-on modifications which can be done on any car. A flick of a mouse and a click of a button on a notebook in a R34 to make extra 100HP without touching the engine is called TUNING. Don't mix up tuning with blot-on modification.
An those associating the CRZ with the CRX are from the same generation of people who cannot associate the relationship between a pencil and a cassette tape. They have not touched, driven, chased or even seen a CRX but is proud to associate the CRZ with the legend. The CRZ is a replacement to the discontinued CRX, not a continuation of the legacy.
At one point in time, the fastest Proton was the 1.6 Satria (before Putra came out) and trying to chase the CRX in one of those was like trying to chase Usain Bolt on the track. Now we can use the same old Satria that could not catch the CRX to chase down the new CRZ.
So tell me, what exactly has the CRZ done to continue the legacy of the CRX? It did not even continue the name.
ps: took a little interest in this topic as just now coming back from lunch a CRZ rudely cut in front of me, in which I responded by putting my front bumper half an inch from his rear window and he had to duck out of the way. The old CRX would have me chasing him all the way to Kelang and back.
And no, this car is not built to be tuned. Slapping on a blower to make 200hp is not called tuning, it's just plain bolt-on modifications which can be done on any car. A flick of a mouse and a click of a button on a notebook in a R34 to make extra 100HP without touching the engine is called TUNING. Don't mix up tuning with blot-on modification.
An those associating the CRZ with the CRX are from the same generation of people who cannot associate the relationship between a pencil and a cassette tape. They have not touched, driven, chased or even seen a CRX but is proud to associate the CRZ with the legend. The CRZ is a replacement to the discontinued CRX, not a continuation of the legacy.
At one point in time, the fastest Proton was the 1.6 Satria (before Putra came out) and trying to chase the CRX in one of those was like trying to chase Usain Bolt on the track. Now we can use the same old Satria that could not catch the CRX to chase down the new CRZ.
So tell me, what exactly has the CRZ done to continue the legacy of the CRX? It did not even continue the name.
ps: took a little interest in this topic as just now coming back from lunch a CRZ rudely cut in front of me, in which I responded by putting my front bumper half an inch from his rear window and he had to duck out of the way. The old CRX would have me chasing him all the way to Kelang and back.
Yeah the power-to-weight ratio is just not right for this car. I was totally surprise to find out CRZ is merely 80kg lighter than a Civic! Since this car is strictly 2-seater, I guess the battery compartment contributed alot of weight for the 1.5L i-VTEC to move. Whenever the battery power run out (alot of SPORT mode), then the underpower feeling will emerge instantly.
Honda themselves also deny the association of CRZ and CRX. It maybe a continuation in terms of 2-seater design shape but never the part under the hood. Don't forget they also have CRV.
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