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 Kursk State Medical University(Russia). Should I?, Really . . . should I?

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limeuu
post Oct 31 2011, 07:32 PM

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do you qualify to study medicine in the first place?.....what is your forecast spm result?.....

http://mmc.gov.my/v1/docs/MINIMUM%20CRITERIA%20V2.pdf

the vast majority of students going to russia goes there because it's cheap, and/or it's easy to get accepted, even with very poor results....

the 2nd reason is now closed, as if you do NOT have the minimum set by mmc, you will be denied registration when you return.....

more than 1/2 of all russian graduates have a LOT of difficulties when they start working as housemans, as they have VERY weak fundamental knowledge, and very weak clinical skills.....
limeuu
post Oct 31 2011, 08:40 PM

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i am against the commercialisation of medical education, and russia is the epitome of this....their sole purpose for their english language medical programmes (nobody speaks english there, think about it...) is to earn money from foreigners, and since nobody stays back to work, they don't care what quality of 'doctors' they produce....

there is no regard for standards, and thus takes in anybody, including arts students.....it's a corrupt system, where you can buy passes from your teachers.....

the product of this system is obvious when students return and start work....half of them cannot function, and have to be taught all over again like a 1st year medical student....

the mmc guideline is too lax, in my opinion.....the way spm is dumbed down, nobody with less than straight a's should be allowed to take medicine...(the pre-u guideline doesn't work, as many people going to russia just do a 'foundation' somewhere after spm, and they can all be given bbb.....)
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post Oct 31 2011, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Jayz0118 @ Oct 31 2011, 09:13 PM)
What you say does make sense when one thinks about their side of the benefits. And, if the standard of their graduates is bad as you claim, then my desire/hope of going there is pretty much crushed(I'd never let patients trust me if I don't even know for sure what I'm doing whilst treating them). Are you in the medical field btw limeuu?

So, let's see, if I manage to land a spot in matriks(govt) and walk the IPTA path. How would my financial situation differ from the Russian path?
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ipta, while not the best in the world, is MUCH MUCH better than russia....

ipta is FREE.....almost....you total 5 years fees is less than rm20k....

the problem is getting in....if you do not get matrik.....
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post Oct 31 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Jayz0118 @ Oct 31 2011, 09:27 PM)
IPTAs are cheaper? really? that'd be good news... man I really suck at this whole general-knowledge thing...

Any recommendations? And, normally what'd be the fee structure like? Actual data would be greatly appreciated, can't find em myself
i already told you...... doh.gif

are you sure you want to be a doctor?.....if you can't understand simple things like this.....
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post Oct 31 2011, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Huskies @ Oct 31 2011, 10:10 PM)

The MMA may not have been outlawed in Malaysia, but they're almost completely useless/helpless in this regard...
the mma is a social association, and has no legal, supervisory, nor trade union power or function.....

you want to talk to the mmc about this......which also does little good, as they function as a rubber stamp body, with major policies decided at political level.....

as for doctors in russia, they actually are considered dirty work people, and has low prestige and pay, and few people wants to be doctors (hence choosing the best is not part of their culture, anyone who wants will be accepted)......they must be laughing why msians are so keen to pay so much money for that dirty job.....
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post Jun 19 2018, 05:37 PM

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There is now a surplus of doctors and enrolment has dropped in all IPTS....the ipta places has been cut 20-30% by the government....

Not sure if the enrolment in degree mills in Russia has dropped....but certainly a lot less advertisements...

All foreign medical graduates may need to sit for a qualifying exam if the new government agrees to the MMC proposal....

 

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