i'm 18 yo,i'm 165cm and i weigh 85 kgs.i just started gym-ing.my goal is to get big and ripped.i want a body like a rugby player,big and strong.so i'm planning to take supplements.i'm not sure whether to take mass gainer and go for cutting or just take whey protein only.i really need help,pls teach me if i'm wrong.thx.

mass gainer if i am not wrong contains alot of sugars, carbohydrates in it! Which in facts makes you fatter by a lot.... If you want to fully focus on muscles you should take pure whey protein instead

oh,but will i be big if i take pure whey protein?i seriously wanna be big but with cutting.i was planning to take mass gainer for couple of months then switch to pure whey protein together with fat burner.is it ok if i do that?

You are already too heavy for mass gainer my friend. Are you planning on to be round? i think you should focus on lean muscle now

what's your bodyfat% like?

that was wat i was scared about,being too fat.but bro,my goal is to have big and strong physique.can i get that by taking whey protein?and i'm not sure wht is my body fat%.

it depends on ur 85 kg of weight if mostly muscle or fat.. if ur mostly fat or just a normal built guy.. by taking mass gainer.. rather than being big like rugby players... ur gonna be big like rikishi... no offence.. but looking at ur height and weight.. you are obese(if ur fat % is over 25%)

well, look in the mirror, do you look fat? when you say increase in mass, do you mean you want to get heavier or look bigger but stay the same weight?

honestly,i'm seriously fat!but,if i take whey protein,will loose alot of weight?i wanna maintain my weight but reduce my fat% and increase my muscle%.how do i do that?

losing fat and gaining muscle are two different things. you dont convert fat into muscle. read stickies and stick to whey protein.

i knw that.but will i get body like this guy if i take whey protein?

this lack of understanding of what SUPPLEMENTS do, amuse me

no.

listen, supps are a SMALL part of the equation. read the stickies, get yourself in the gym and work your ass off. whey isnt going to make you big. spending RM200 does not equate being big. stop thinking whey and whatnot can make you big, they dont.

im done here

if i were you... i would drop my weight till about 70kg(which is what im doing now) then start building my body from there..

i used to be 110kg.. currently 76kg.. aiming for a body almost like the one you posted.. but not that big..

i dont know about you... but dont you think its a bit ridiculous for you to think that you dont wanna drop ur weight but u just wanna gain muscle??

you have to do a combination of loosing fats.. and gaining muscle at the same time.. and loosing fats are fast.. gaining muscle mass are slow...

so... for you to think that u want your weight to be constant.. but loose fat and gain muscle??????

really headache.. go read stickies..

and for you to be that big.. doesnt neccessarily you have to be that weight..

its what in the mirror.. not the scale...

look at darklight.. bigass bis tri ches everything... but is lighter than me..

puhlezzz read stickies or at least google it before posting k brah...

wats your diet like to suggest weight gainer is a better replacement tat will give you the body like his?

Nonu FTW!! These guys are right. The All Blacks really works their ass out at the gym during the off season. Thats how they get awesome bodies.