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post Oct 29 2011, 12:38 PM, updated 15y ago

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+-RM60 for full tank but just only last for +-230KM ???

need experienced guys advice here~

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post Oct 29 2011, 12:39 PM

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Its normal.
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post Oct 29 2011, 12:44 PM

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post Oct 29 2011, 12:53 PM

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wei eric is it normal?
my car rm50 can go up till 300km..carb wei..
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First,

Is it a new car? eg: havn't been to the first 1k KM service
how was your driving style? full throttle all the time?

if it's a new car, it's normal. the good/average FC will only get better after the first few service.

if you're always full throttle all the time but expect to have prius like FC, that's just not gona happen.

hope that helps smile.gif
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post Oct 29 2011, 12:56 PM

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wow so high fc
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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Oct 29 2011, 12:53 PM)
wei eric is it normal?
my car rm50 can go up till 300km..carb wei..
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Itu Mitsu.

Ini Campro.

But i believe the car is still new la.

My manual, 5000rpm all the way also can return me 300km or so.. RM50 whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Oct 29 2011, 12:56 PM)
Itu Mitsu.

Ini Campro.

But i believe the car is still new la.

My manual, 5000rpm all the way also can return me 300km or so.. RM50 whistling.gif
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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Oct 29 2011, 12:59 PM)
Last night tarak join apasal..genting sempah wei..more than 10 cars..
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i phobia driving at night ><

besides, my tires are crap sad.gif

after tire change, promise ron liao tongue.gif
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post Oct 29 2011, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Oct 29 2011, 02:00 PM)
i phobia driving at night ><

besides, my tires are crap sad.gif

after tire change, promise ron liao tongue.gif
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QUOTE(terence257 @ Oct 29 2011, 12:38 PM)
+-RM60 for full tank but just only last for +-230KM ???

need experienced guys advice here~

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Consider ok.

Mine RM50 can last bout 200kms only.
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Oct 29 2011, 01:19 PM)
michelin is waiting for u laugh.gif
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post Oct 29 2011, 01:34 PM

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depends on situation how you drive lar.
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post Oct 29 2011, 02:50 PM

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that's bad FC.
my car 1.6L auto can reach 310km city drive or 410km On highway with 50RM.
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post Oct 29 2011, 02:54 PM

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which version of the saga?

my myvi can hit 500km+ @ RM50+ around Klang Valley with manual tranmission
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post Oct 29 2011, 03:38 PM

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few Q u have to ask?
FL or FLX?..CVT give u better FC..way better
more city or highway
new car or what?
tyre pressure enough?
and the GOLDEN Q...hows your right leg?

PS : i can do 440KM+- on my saga BLM on full tank(1st batch)

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post Oct 29 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 29 2011, 04:38 PM)
few Q u have to ask?
FL or FLX?..CVT give u better FC..way better
more city or highway
new car or what?
tyre pressure enough?
and the GOLDEN Q...hows your right leg?
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myvi better la
can hit rm50 500km easily in city
highway even can beat hybrid rm50 with 700km icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Oct 29 2011, 03:39 PM)
myvi better la
can hit rm50 500km easily in city
highway even can beat hybrid rm50 with 700km icon_idea.gif
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city 500KM?...u gotta be kidding...lol
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post Oct 29 2011, 03:50 PM

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Well,you dint want a car that would turtle so easily and you wanted the more "STABLE" car.So there you have it!

Even if myvi doesnt hit 500km on a full tank of petrol.its still way better than this saga...

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post Oct 29 2011, 03:53 PM

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last time me and friend travels to cherating from kl.
that saga consume demn much fuel compared to my perdana yawn.gif
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post Oct 29 2011, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(shdin271 @ Oct 29 2011, 03:53 PM)
last time me and friend travels to cherating from kl.
that saga consume demn much fuel compared to my perdana yawn.gif
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perhaps carrying a lot of passenger and heavy luggage to cherating?
bcos under-power will cause consume more petrol compare to higher engine hp...
somemore driving thru hilly highways with under power engine still will lead higher FC...

same case like 1hp a/c doesnt means will save more electric than 1.5hp a/c if the room recommended to install 1.5hp a/c...
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post Oct 29 2011, 04:06 PM

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myvi auto can hit 360-370km for rm50.
blm auto can get around 300km-320km for rm50
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Oct 29 2011, 04:01 PM)
perhaps carrying a lot of passenger and heavy luggage to cherating?
bcos under-power will cause consume more petrol compare to higher engine hp...
somemore driving thru hilly highways with under power engine still will lead higher FC...

same case like 1hp a/c doesnt means will save more electric than 1.5hp a/c if the room recommended to install 1.5hp a/c...
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at genting sempah, i took all his luggage, and i passanger, left his car with none luggage + 1driver and 2 passanger.
but still the car consume a lot of fuel
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post Oct 29 2011, 04:11 PM

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dont expect good fc with any campro engine, even if u drive 24/7 below the speed limit......
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post Oct 29 2011, 04:19 PM

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maybe proton use ron100 to test their car..
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QUOTE(megat89 @ Oct 29 2011, 04:19 PM)
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maybe proton use ron100 to test their car..
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QUOTE(megat89 @ Oct 29 2011, 04:19 PM)
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maybe proton use ron100 to test their car..
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never trust those number produce by car manufacturer
proton perodua toyota and any other
the number isn't reliable at all
usually they get the real FC +2 at the front to make it attractive
or they didn't test it on the road at all...thus the numbers looks nice
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Oct 29 2011, 03:39 PM)
myvi better la
can hit rm50 500km easily in city
highway even can beat hybrid rm50 with 700km icon_idea.gif
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u drive only 20kmh along the way in highway?
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post Oct 29 2011, 07:36 PM

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normal la...

my neo cps only go 300km if RM50..
its still brand new..
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post Oct 29 2011, 07:41 PM

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i think most of car underpowered then will be petrol eated.

My Kenari auto also pump Rm55 Ron95 only can go for 300KM.
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post Oct 29 2011, 07:56 PM

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Not again.......but I. think the Proton figure there are realistic.11l/100km for the auto 1.3 in city drive.

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 29 2011, 08:56 PM)
Not again.......but I. think the Proton figure there are realistic.11l/100km for the auto 1.3 in city drive.
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most of the people or drivers claimed that 5.7l/100km is a lie
but proton already written clearly is based on highway 90km/h
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post Oct 29 2011, 09:07 PM

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walao saga fc so cham meh? My old ke70 with 4age gets 11.6l/100km on 100% city with middle foot (2-4k rpm, 7.5k sometimes). Not to mention 15 years no engine overhaul...
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QUOTE(geforce88 @ Oct 29 2011, 04:11 PM)
dont expect good fc with any campro engine, even if u drive 24/7 below the speed limit......
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i drive like madman but i still get 11km-12km/L

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 29 2011, 09:09 PM)
i drive like madman but i still get 11km-12km/L

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wat car u are driving?
me myself driving an auto 4g92, fc= 200km for rm60..
around 6.4km/L..but all the time full throttle tongue.gif
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my wira cab 4gXX Year 1997

my is 8.2L/100KM


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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Oct 29 2011, 09:41 PM)
wat car u are driving?
me myself driving an auto 4g92, fc= 200km for rm60..
around 6.4km/L..but all the time full throttle  tongue.gif
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he drives a saga FLX(CVT)
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post Oct 29 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 29 2011, 11:54 PM)
he drives a saga FLX(CVT)
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oo.. cvt marr, mine old techno gb sure lose in fc blush.gif
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QUOTE(camel90 @ Oct 29 2011, 12:56 PM)
First,

Is it a new car? eg: havn't been to the first 1k KM service
how was your driving style? full throttle all the time?

if it's a new car, it's normal. the good/average FC will only get better after the first few service.

if you're always full throttle all the time but expect to have prius like FC, that's just not gona happen.

hope that helps smile.gif
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Yes, it's new car. I done the 1st service n now is almost 3k KM now.
My always keep my driving at average 2.5k rpm, 3k rmp or above only on high way.
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QUOTE(terence257 @ Oct 30 2011, 01:03 AM)
Yes, it's new car. I done the 1st service n now is almost 3k KM now.
My always keep my driving at average 2.5k rpm, 3k rmp or above only on high way.
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flx ?cvt?
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QUOTE(terence257 @ Oct 30 2011, 12:03 AM)
Yes, it's new car. I done the 1st service n now is almost 3k KM now.
My always keep my driving at average 2.5k rpm, 3k rmp or above only on high way.
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car still new thats why got crap FC

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post Oct 30 2011, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Oct 30 2011, 12:05 AM)
flx ?cvt?
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FLX n CVT.
Is it normal or do i need to reach 5k km to only to knw the FC capacity of the car?
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QUOTE(terence257 @ Oct 30 2011, 12:17 AM)
FLX n CVT.
Is it normal or do i need to reach 5k km to only to knw the FC capacity of the car?
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have to observe. normally it will get better after the first 1k service, and gradually better till the 10k km service.

Secondly, what fuel you pump?

and lastly, 2,500 rpm for FLX if normal driving is actually quite high. 2,000 rpm is already sufficient to propel the car up to 70-80km/h. Try to ease of on the throttle a little bit. Remember, the advantage of CVT is that you can control the engine rpm you wish to travel on.
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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Oct 29 2011, 11:58 PM)
oo.. cvt marr, mine old techno gb sure lose in fc  blush.gif
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so ya...all along ppl say campro drink fuel
apparently it wasn't the engine..it was the GB
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my flx pump rm60 of ron97 around every 10 days le huhue
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post Oct 30 2011, 04:25 PM

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fc is known to be a little high on the current model of Proton Saga. However, generally if you drive like shit, you get fc like shit. No amount of modding can help on that.

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QUOTE(Shenanigans2011 @ Oct 30 2011, 04:19 PM)
3 years and this is still an issue. what a joke. what is the R&D department doing? Sleeping?
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3 pages only and you just blindingly bash without even bother to read previous posts. you're the real joke here.


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QUOTE(Shenanigans2011 @ Oct 30 2011, 04:30 PM)
I have read multiple threads on Saga BLM's fuel consumption in LYN and many other motoring thread. This issue has been an ongoing issue with Saga since the first BLM model. I thought with the Saga FLX we can expect 1liter = 15km.
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YES, I am very sure it can be done.

I'm driving like a madman (or like shit as abubin said) and using RON95 and still get an average 11-12km/L 50 city 50 highway. That 15km/L figure is PLAUSIBLE.
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for now FLX is still very little on the road and a majority of Saga owners in this forum are either driving the BLM or the FL. There's only a handful members which owns the FLX for more than a month.

and, Campro is a notorious fuel drinker when it is new. That is a fact and cant escape from it. My first tank when I get my car new is only about 230-240km. Figure shows a bit of improvement after first service.
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new car ma
wait till 15k to get actual figure la
i know a persona b-line manual owner 50 buck 400 km city driving
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My mileage still sucks. Mileage is 12,800+ km

Still getting roughly 130 km for every RM 30 (RM 0.23/km). That's like what...roughly 8.23km/L

I drive like an auntie averaging at 55 kph at 2200 rpm in Penang also like that. Apala...

My bro's Mazda 6 2.5 SVT is doing RM 0.25/km rclxub.gif A 1.3L Campro's fuel consumption is so close to a 2.5L MZR engine. I think when the fella go overseas, I hijack his Mazda 6 la and boycott my Saga for few days.

How absurd. I want to show my "national pride" but my engine koyakla.

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 30 2011, 04:07 PM)
my flx pump rm60 of ron97 around every 10 days le huhue
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Why people likes to measure FC by days?? 10 days you drive 1000km? Or drive 10km?? doh.gif... I parked my Inspira at home 1 week....0L/100Km!!!!


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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Oct 31 2011, 03:06 AM)
My mileage still sucks. Mileage is 12,800+ km

Still getting roughly 130 km for every RM 30 (RM 0.23/km). That's like what...roughly 8.23km/L

I drive like an auntie averaging at 55 kph at 2200 rpm in Penang also like that. Apala...

My bro's Mazda 6 2.5 SVT is doing RM 0.25/km  rclxub.gif  A 1.3L Campro's fuel consumption is so close to a 2.5L MZR engine. I think when the fella go overseas, I hijack his Mazda 6 la and boycott my Saga for few days.

How absurd. I want to show my "national pride" but my engine koyakla.
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I think for city drive, 8km-9km/l is norm for auto Saga, my relatives also getting the same in City drive. Driving slow doesn't means will save fuel, it is driving optimally which will save fuel, around 75km/h -90km/h for most cars. In city drive, this is mission impossible.



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QUOTE(sg999 @ Oct 30 2011, 12:05 AM)
flx ?cvt?
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tat's bad, my 1997 wira auto RM60 (RON95) for 420KM (city) and yet the ultraman light not yet come. tat shows new car does not mean good fc?
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1300cc for heavy chassis? Sure la...
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long distance from melaka to kelantan using flx only consume rm80 worth of fuels. that is a really2 good for FC for me.
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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Oct 29 2011, 09:41 PM)
wat car u are driving?
me myself driving an auto 4g92, fc= 200km for rm60..
around 6.4km/L..but all the time full throttle  tongue.gif
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Your engine condition is bad la bro..damn high fc..hahaha..all time full throttle I also can achieve 300KM with my 4G15 drool.gif
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 18 2011, 05:28 PM)
1300cc for heavy chassis? Sure la...
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Slighlly heavy only lar...maybe 70kg-100kg more than a Myvi....but the 1.6FL doesn't seems to have good FC either.
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Saga FL. FC is 8.5L/100km. 70% highway, 30% city. Is it considered ok?
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Saga FL. FC is 8.5L/100km. 70% highway, 30% city. Is it considered ok?
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considered average for FL.
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my saga flx manual can go from sandakan to kk..320km++..with full passenger..for rm60 + heavy leg sometime.. smile.gif..
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What fuel brand provides better performance and is good for engine? My guess is Caltex.
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QUOTE(mehron @ Mar 21 2014, 12:53 AM)
Saga FL. FC is 8.5L/100km. 70% highway, 30% city. Is it considered ok?
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Saga in my opinion is really good car for b-segment, the price is very reasonable, the external design is good that make the car never outdated.
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My friend's 2009 Saga BLM 1.3 managed only 9km/litre mixed driving... terrible FC but it was already since day 1 he bought the car...
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Mar 29 2014, 11:52 AM)
My friend's 2009 Saga BLM 1.3 managed only 9km/litre mixed driving... terrible FC but it was already since day 1 he bought the car...
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i still follow saga fc threads since i got the blm auto in 2008. mileage now 50k. full city driving but heavy foot.
mileage been always the same for last 5 years ...

rm50 for 150km
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23.8 litres for 150km
or 6.3km per litre

if i use caltex mileage drops below 135km

anyone got worse than my fc? sigh sigh ...

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 29 2014, 12:50 PM)
i still follow saga fc threads since i got the blm auto in 2008. mileage now 50k. full city driving but heavy foot.
mileage been always the same for last 5 years ...

rm50 for 150km
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23.8 litres for 150km
or 6.3km per litre

if i use caltex mileage drops below 135km

anyone got worse than my fc? sigh sigh ...
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That's really terrible.. I would sell the car without hesitation unless your usage (mileage wise) is superb light use... 1 day only run 5km to go across the street buying some thing..

For normal use.. it would incur much cost compare to buying a newer car with better enjoyment.
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Mar 29 2014, 04:54 PM)
That's really terrible.. I would sell the car without hesitation unless your usage (mileage wise) is superb light use... 1 day only run 5km to go across the street buying some thing..

For normal use.. it would incur much cost compare to buying a newer car with better enjoyment.
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i agree. my friend who bought it in 2009 also same fc. i sent back to service centre many time earlier in 2008/9but cant do much. sc staff told me they recd several complaints also.

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 29 2014, 12:50 PM)
i still follow saga fc threads since i got the blm auto in 2008. mileage now 50k. full city driving but heavy foot.
mileage been always the same for last 5 years ...

rm50 for 150km
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or 6.3km per litre

if i use caltex mileage drops below 135km

anyone got worse than my fc? sigh sigh ...
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6.3km per liter???!!! Whatttttt........

Mine Saga FLX full city drive(ipoh, no highway to speak of), normal drive, 11.2~11.3km per liter.....

Are you sure your car not defective? It drinks more oil than a 20 year old old 2.2liter Camry.............
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 29 2014, 12:50 PM)
i still follow saga fc threads since i got the blm auto in 2008. mileage now 50k. full city driving but heavy foot.
mileage been always the same for last 5 years ...

rm50 for 150km
or
23.8 litres for 150km
or 6.3km per litre

if i use caltex mileage drops below 135km

anyone got worse than my fc? sigh sigh ...
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How you drive r ?
I can get 12-14km/l with my persona manual on pj city and federal highway traffic jam. What the heck 1.3l car and lighter body worse fc than mine.
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RM50 for 300++ km here. Proton Saga BLM 2009.
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wow what an old tered...
if saga btw 1.3 and 1.6 , 1.6 have better ratio to weight so it more lower fc..
i now city 90% speed nvr go more than 60, my fuel rm50 - 120km-150km manual.. 11litre / 100km
if go highway 100% = 6litre/100km

depend road u drive everyone give different f c
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man how come everyone is having bad FC?

I had an old iswara that can do 420km for rm50 @ rm1.90/litre. That's almost 16 km/litre!


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6.3km/l is ridiculous, even for a CamtakPro Saga BLM AT. It is definitely not normal.

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 30 2014, 12:58 AM)
6.3km/l is ridiculous, even for a CamtakPro Saga BLM AT. It is definitely not normal.

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QUOTE(thomanic @ Mar 29 2014, 10:11 PM)
6.3km per liter???!!! Whatttttt........

Mine Saga FLX full city drive(ipoh, no highway to speak of), normal drive, 11.2~11.3km per liter.....

Are you sure your car not defective? It drinks more oil than a 20 year old old 2.2liter Camry.............
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sure ? yr saga is in great condition! want toi exchange with my blm or not? hehe
FLX really tat good? anyone with flx can comment?
yes, i think mine was somehow defective. damn!!
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QUOTE(farid_cool @ Mar 29 2014, 10:58 PM)
RM50 for 300++ km here. Proton Saga BLM 2009.
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envy u le
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6.3km/l is ridiculous, even for a CamtakPro Saga BLM AT. It is definitely not normal.

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bro. it is ridiculous as u had replied me in other fc threads. i sent back to sc many times for 'tuning' and still cannot improve on fc.

i remember the first rm50 petrol in 2008. tank went empty after hitting 220km (old petrol price then) and i thot something bocorrrr!!

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apa la,my car approaching 150k km now,Rm 50 300 km,everyday jam in federal and sometimes kesas,other than dat all city driving....install vacuum meter la,lol..

maintenance do properly,fuel filter all change,sure fc gooding...

manual tho.......year 2008

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Mar 30 2014, 11:27 AM)
apa la,my car approaching 150k km now,Rm 50 300 km,everyday jam in federal and sometimes kesas,other than dat all city driving....install vacuum meter la,lol..

maintenance do properly,fuel filter all change,sure fc gooding...
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i still dont understand how u people cant get 250-300km for rm50 no matter wat saga model (after year 2008).

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i still dont understand how u people cant get 250-300km for rm50 no matter wat saga model (after year 2008).
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Mar 30 2014, 11:27 AM)

maintenance do properly,fuel filter all change,sure fc gooding...

manual tho.......year 2008
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yala. i love cars. i maintain it really well. i wah engine bay every 6 months, change semi oil n filters very 4k km, eogine check every 6 months. also added oil treatment for air con compressor etc etc. added voltage stabiliser..... haha ... still same fc. @&#^#/
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 30 2014, 11:36 AM)
yala. i love cars. i maintain it really well. i wah engine bay every 6 months, change semi oil n filters very 4k km, eogine check every 6 months. also added oil treatment for air con compressor etc etc. added voltage stabiliser..... haha ... still same fc. @&#^#/
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ur leg problem bro....vacuum meter helps me alot...i found out dat semi bardahl is quite suitable for our car,not too thin,dun have tappet sound at all..samo it's cheap....did u check ur iafm???ur rear brake cylinder pump???
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 30 2014, 11:26 AM)
bro. it is ridiculous as u had replied me in other fc threads. i sent back to sc many times for 'tuning' and still cannot improve on fc.

i remember the first rm50 petrol in 2008. tank went empty after hitting 220km (old petrol price then) and i thot something bocorrrr!!
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As mahihi has mentioned, use a vacuum meter to monitor your driving habits.

If you are in KL, come join our TT on Fridays so we can help you check if there is anything wrong with your car. Maybe your petrol tank leaking kot rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Mar 30 2014, 11:39 AM)
ur leg problem bro....vacuum meter helps me alot...i found out dat semi bardahl is quite suitable for our car,not too thin,dun have tappet sound at all..samo it's cheap....did u check ur iafm???ur rear brake cylinder pump???
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actually the 2nd month after my complain, proton sc changed a new iafm to my blm.
rear brake cylinder pump? why?? is it expensive? i am always willing to c hange any parts if necessary
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 30 2014, 11:52 AM)
As mahihi has mentioned, use a vacuum meter to monitor your driving habits.

If you are in KL, come join our TT on Fridays so we can help you check if there is anything wrong with your car. Maybe your petrol tank leaking kot  rclxub.gif
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aiya. me in ipoh. will try join u people when i m in KL. thanks.
i hv been checking petrol tank or other possible leaking. but so far engine bay is clean n dry....feel like feeding a huge lorry. haha
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QUOTE(wonggsamm @ Mar 30 2014, 11:53 AM)
biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif indicate intake vacuum ,this suck man
RTM Ai FM - 89.3 FM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 30 2014, 11:53 AM)
actually the 2nd month after my complain, proton sc changed a new iafm to my blm.
rear brake cylinder pump? why?? is it expensive? i am always willing to c hange any parts if necessary
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brake 1 year do once ok lo....Rm 25 1 side bosch,lol......when do allignment,spin ur rear tyre to know if its jam anot,if ur tyre cant even move,of course more force needed to push ur car lo,so makan minyak lo...
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Mar 30 2014, 12:00 PM)
brake 1 year do once ok lo....Rm 25 1 side bosch,lol......when do allignment,spin ur rear tyre to know if its jam anot,if ur tyre cant even move,of course more force needed to push ur car lo,so makan minyak lo...
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i see. from day 1 my blm has a chit chit sound when i reversed it out from my house. sent back to sc many times also cant resolve. lately it has the sound in the morning when the engine is cold but no more such sound when the engine gets hot while driving. ok, will sent to my foreman ti check it. thanks
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hello. how about the internal petrol filter? any issue with it?

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hello. how about the internal petrol filter? any issue with it?
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fuel filter ah u mean???every 45k change once lo.....
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 30 2014, 12:06 PM)
i see. from day 1 my blm has a chit chit sound when i reversed it out from my house. sent back to sc many times also cant resolve. lately it has the sound in the morning when the engine is cold but no more such sound when the engine gets hot while driving. ok, will sent to my foreman ti check it. thanks
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hehehe,ur rear brake cylinder pump jam already...
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Mar 30 2014, 12:10 PM)
hehehe,ur rear brake cylinder pump jam already...
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serious? from day 1 of using my blm wor? expensive to change?
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i hope friends here can teach me wat else to change. i will get them done tis week.
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 30 2014, 12:12 PM)
serious? from day 1 of using my blm wor? expensive to change?
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sorry,day 1 ah??normal la...ur disc warm up ad then no sound lo......got rust anot on ur disc...brakes more will help
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sorry,day 1 ah??normal la...ur disc warm up ad then no sound lo......got rust anot on ur disc...brakes more will help
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 30 2014, 12:12 PM)
serious? from day 1 of using my blm wor? expensive to change?
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ok ok. will get my foreman to open up and see see. thanks pal
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See your break drum..
If there's some rust on the drum means your break pump jammed...
And also try to servis your IAFM(doesn't need to change)

Mine BLM(A) 08 still can achieve around 12km/l with light foot
Millage 70k km

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See your break drum..
If there's some rust on the drum means your break pump jammed...
And also try to servis your IAFM(doesn't need to change)

Mine BLM(A) 08 still can achieve around 12km/l with light foot
Millage 70k km
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QUOTE(wonggsamm @ Mar 30 2014, 01:33 PM)
iafm is this laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif lmao

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sc can service the iafm right?

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bro. is yours manual? highway use?
envy u le
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Yup, manual. City use more than highway. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Oct 29 2011, 12:56 PM)
Itu Mitsu.

Ini Campro.

But i believe the car is still new la.

My manual, 5000rpm all the way also can return me 300km or so.. RM50 whistling.gif
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u different...

QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 29 2014, 12:50 PM)
i still follow saga fc threads since i got the blm auto in 2008. mileage now 50k. full city driving but heavy foot.
mileage been always the same for last 5 years ...

rm50 for 150km
or
23.8 litres for 150km
or 6.3km per litre

if i use caltex mileage drops below 135km

anyone got worse than my fc? sigh sigh ...
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6.3km/l for me is in a highspeed mode which rev near redline all the time as i normally shift my auto gear manually...

QUOTE(dares @ Mar 30 2014, 12:58 AM)
6.3km/l is ridiculous, even for a CamtakPro Saga BLM AT. It is definitely not normal.

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why drag me here...
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Mar 30 2014, 01:15 PM)
See your break drum..
If there's some rust on the drum means your break pump jammed...
And also try to servis your IAFM(doesn't need to change)

Mine BLM(A) 08 still can achieve around 12km/l with light foot
Millage 70k km
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12km/l what condition? highway? city? mixed? hmm.gif
just wanna compare to mine driving.

QUOTE(wonggsamm @ Mar 30 2014, 01:33 PM)
iafm is this laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif lmao

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tiny pic is tiny.
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QUOTE(bo093 @ Mar 31 2014, 11:19 AM)
12km/l what condition? highway? city? mixed?  hmm.gif
just wanna compare to mine driving.
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mix road..
mix speed around 80-100km/j
using petronas ron95




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i hope  friends here can teach me wat else to change. i will get them done tis week.
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change driving style.
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Mahihi u selling bardahl ka?
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my 2008 carb saga lmst, 14' rim besi 200km rm30 ok ka? city driving.
using shell ron95, paco engine oil.
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QUOTE(ad_iz1 @ Apr 2 2014, 11:44 AM)
my 2008 carb saga lmst, 14' rim besi 200km rm30 ok ka? city driving.
using shell ron95, paco engine oil.
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u can calculate FC like this
rm30 = 14.26L
so 200km / 14.26L = 14.025km/L. kira bagus ma.
lagi tinggi figure lagi bagus FC. lagi rendah figure lagi teruk la FC.
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i drive a saga fl (auto) year 2010.. rm60 gives about 260km, give or take... driving between 70km/h-100km/h.. rarely go beyond 100km/h..

how do you fellas get more than 300km for a full tank?
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QUOTE(vostro @ Apr 2 2014, 12:57 PM)
i drive a saga fl (auto) year 2010.. rm60 gives about 260km, give or take... driving between 70km/h-100km/h.. rarely go beyond 100km/h..

how do you fellas get more than 300km for a full tank?
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usually because of heavy footing, use aircond more than minimum temp.

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 2 2014, 12:02 PM)
first of all, please calculate ur FC.
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I never did any calculation before. But i will have a look with the example you gave above.

The petrol bar indicator, usually gives 40KM per bar. That is what i get.
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QUOTE(vostro @ Apr 2 2014, 01:09 PM)
I never did any calculation before. But i will have a look with the example you gave above.

The petrol bar indicator, usually gives 40KM per bar. That is what i get.
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u salah method ma. kira pakai fuel bar tu tak accurate.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Oct 10 2012, 10:09 PM)
I think its about time to blog about how to save petrol liao sleep.gif Been on on off off posting the same stuff, also got into argument with the tree huger sleep.gif

1) FC mostly depending on traffic condition, it could be recently traffic got heavier
2) Go wash your pollen filter, make sure its clean so you get more aircond. Try to reduce the thermostat to minimal. Do remember our 2000cc worth SANDEN compressor took out almost 1/3 of the torque just to power up cold air in the cabin. You can blast your blower speed at 4(if you can take it), just be very careful on the thermostat will do.
3) Don't stay in the car and blow aircond. Refer no.2. My normal blower speed at 3. Thermostat is half during the day, and minimal at night.
4) It's not 3krpm shift up or 2.5krpm. It's how long does it take to reach 3krpm. Try to reduce a little bit of your acceleration. For example usually within 1 second you hit 3krpm, immediately shift up, this is a good way to lose petrol. Can try take 2 seconds to hit 3krpm, follow by 3 seconds. You'll be surprise by practicing this alone already save you bunch of fuel.
5) Sometimes it's not 5th gear 2krpm all the way can save petrol. If uphill slope, let the cruising speed slow down a little bit. If needed, downshift and maintain slightly higher RPM, you'll be surprise it actually save petrol with higher RPM on low gear, rather than low RPM in higher gear when going uphill.
6) From far already see traffic light red light, still go and "bem! bem!" show off, ofcoz waste petrol la. I normally declutch and let the car roll until stop. If suddenly turn green light, drop gear and continue acceleration.

Basically thats about it. Lazy to explain technical alreay sleep.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 10 2012, 02:23 PM)
Out of all the gauges, fuel level gauge is 1 of the most unpredictable gauge. It's float weight NOT calibrated, some car lighter, some heavier. My case is heavy, tend to give me illusion of petrol saving. When car is travelling, my fuel gauge doesn't go down. My 1st bar normally can last up to 80km before it lesap. After I stop my engine, the float settled then it become 1 bar less.

Some lighter float like dares case, up hill, hilang 1 bar, downhill 1 bar extra, go flat road, back to normal again.

Really can't tell how many km before the alert indicator lite up.
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QUOTE(vostro @ Apr 2 2014, 01:09 PM)
I never did any calculation before. But i will have a look with the example you gave above.

The petrol bar indicator, usually gives 40KM per bar. That is what i get.
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if u really wanna to learn, if u r around klang valley a, u can come to TT and look for r3apers can teach u. he's driving fl auto also.
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you guys can test this first :
1) always use minimum aircond temperature. saga aircond is fuel sarker.
2) light foot pedal
3) use petronas 95 fuel when highway driving. town driving whatever fuel is no difference.
4) pedal to the metal will suck ur petrol more.
5) reduce idling, traffic jam.


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QUOTE(vostro @ Apr 2 2014, 12:09 PM)
I never did any calculation before. But i will have a look with the example you gave above.

The petrol bar indicator, usually gives 40KM per bar. That is what i get.
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for me best way to calculate your own car FC
1st :fill up your tank FULL
2nd :drive the car untill you ready to fill your tank again
3rd :and refill you tank using the SAME pump (as the same station as 1st step)



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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Apr 2 2014, 05:20 PM)
for me best way to calculate your own car FC
1st :fill up your tank FULL
2nd :drive the car untill you ready to fill your tank again
3rd :and refill you tank using the SAME pump (as the same station as 1st step)
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I used to measure fc like your method, but found it not really accurate. Sometime it click early sometime not. And need to refill only that station pump only. Now i change my method, after the first click, wait a few second then slowly fill up the petrol until can see the petrol at the hole. This method can pump at any petrol station, confirm accurate.
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QUOTE(Effy92 @ Apr 2 2014, 06:16 PM)
I used to measure fc like your method, but found it not really accurate. Sometime it click early sometime not. And need to refill only that station pump only. Now i change my method, after the first click, wait a few second then slowly fill up the petrol until can see the petrol at the hole. This method can pump at any petrol station, confirm accurate.
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yup...you method are more accurate
and the reason why same pump "click" differently is because


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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Apr 2 2014, 06:31 PM)
yup...you method are more accurate
and the reason why same pump "click" differently is because


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Like !
Now i know how it works. Lol
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 2 2014, 10:01 AM)
Mahihi u selling bardahl ka?
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tak ada,lol...kenapa???i can help buy la..
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tak ada,lol...kenapa???i can help buy la..
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Hi

wanna ask the sifu here... is this normal? Proton saga BLM Auto (reg around 2008/2009). About 40km will use up "1 kotak of fuel". 70+km will use up "2 kotak of fuel". Everytime I pump full tank. I service regularly ie 10000 will send to service centreAttached Image

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Effy92
post Jul 18 2014, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(aikning @ Jul 18 2014, 05:14 PM)
Hi

wanna ask the sifu here... is this normal? Proton saga BLM Auto (reg around 2008/2009). About 40km will use up "1 kotak of fuel". 70+km will use up "2 kotak of fuel". Everytime I pump full tank. I service regularly ie 10000 will send to service centreAttached Image
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The kotak does not translate how many km you can go. I can get as high as over hundred km or as low as 50km below for 1 kotak. Its depend on traffic condition, driving style, aircon temp setting, car condition and many circumstance.

Back to your question, you need to refuel full tank back after you fuel meter drop two bar then you know how many litre fuel used for two bar. Only after you do that you can come here to show us again your meter and your fuel receipt to know your km/L. From that we can only know your car normal or not.
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post Jul 19 2014, 12:21 PM

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why so anal about fc? wanna drive better car but mentality always restricted by fc fc fc! some cars i use can only move less than 100km with rm50
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QUOTE(aikning @ Jul 18 2014, 05:14 PM)
Hi

wanna ask the sifu here... is this normal? Proton saga BLM Auto (reg around 2008/2009). About 40km will use up "1 kotak of fuel". 70+km will use up "2 kotak of fuel". Everytime I pump full tank. I service regularly ie 10000 will send to service centreAttached Image
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This is another misconception to add to the other thread...how many kotak can jalan how many km...OMG...doh.gif
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post Jul 21 2014, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Effy92 @ Jul 18 2014, 10:45 PM)
The kotak does not translate how many km you can go. I can get as high as over hundred km or as low as 50km below for 1 kotak. Its depend on traffic condition, driving style, aircon temp setting, car condition and many circumstance.

Back to your question, you need to refuel full tank back after you fuel meter drop two bar then you know how many litre fuel used for two bar. Only after you do that you can come here to show us again your meter and your fuel receipt to know your km/L. From that we can only know your car normal or not.
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Thanks... so whatever it is, it will be normal situations because it will still DEPENDENT on "traffic condition, driving style, aircon temp setting, car condition and many circumstance".... afterall, it seems like it is ONLY me (and some others) who will drive in KL roads. Anyway, thanks for your advice and expertise.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 19 2014, 01:02 PM)
This is another misconception to add to the other thread...how many kotak can jalan how many km...OMG...doh.gif
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The picture shown means I have filled up fulled tank and then I reset the mileage to ZERO. And then the car drives for 70+ km and the petrol indicator shows the fuel.

Anyway, for any layman, if this is NOT the correct and sane way to measure how many KMs, I will need to go back to primary school. Thank you anyway for your kind advice and expertise.
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QUOTE(aikning @ Jul 21 2014, 02:51 PM)
The picture shown means I have filled up fulled tank and then I reset the mileage to ZERO. And then the car drives for 70+ km and the petrol indicator shows the fuel.

Anyway, for any layman, if this is NOT the correct and sane way to measure how many KMs, I will need to go back to primary school. Thank you anyway for your kind advice and expertise.
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As someone mentioned earliar, you need to refuel it, then only you will know how petrol is used. For example, now you go refuel until full tank. Say you pump in 10L, then 70.1km /10l= 7.1km/l.

So to get average, just drive until fuel light blinks (or sometime before that, don't drive until empty..not neccessary), then refuel to full tank. The distance travelled since your last reset divide by the full tank you have pumped will be your KM/L.

In traffic jam, you are basically going at 0km/l. Nothing can help. Except god-car. If drive god-car, no need to use fuel wan. laugh.gif

 

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