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 Nokia Lumia 800, The first real windows phone by Nokia

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post Nov 12 2011, 11:04 PM

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I hope Nokia will eventually implement the Swipe-UI into their WP7. Personally, I think the N9's Swipe-UI would mesh very very very well with WP7 OS, since a lot of WP7 apps already incorporate virtual buttons within the Panorama style swiping for apps.

The homescreen can perhaps look something like this.

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post Nov 16 2011, 11:19 AM

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Nokia is Olympic Brand in India, mah... Over 60% market share in mobile phone market.

Plus India is rich and poor enough for Nokia to execute both the Smartphone and Feature Phone strategy at once.

Though I'm still annoyed that we can't get Lumia 800 this year... What's worse is that it will likely won't even be January, but maybe February or March instead.
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post Feb 6 2012, 10:37 AM

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Crap, I have an important work appointment on the 10th... Can't take half-day leave to go queue up. ;_;

Looks like I'll have to settle for the in-ear Purity.
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post Feb 9 2012, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Feb 9 2012, 05:41 PM)
ermm they are not building any actual live tiles where people will be performing in the Music Tile e.g. like they have it in other countries?
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Budget, mah...

Malaysia is not like US. We get scraps of marketing money compared to them.
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post Feb 9 2012, 06:28 PM

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But buy from the selected Nokia stores can still get other good free gift like In-Ear Purity Earphone and Microsoft Office Home + Student.

Not as 'canggih' as Purity HD Headset, but not everyone can go to queue up for the launch.
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post Feb 9 2012, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Feb 9 2012, 06:38 PM)
you can get someone else to go for you or give someone $$$ help you lol
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Wanted to go myself, but got last work minute appointment. Don't want to last minute pull my friends to queue for me.

I'll lose out this time, but the consolation gifts aren't bad too.
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post Feb 10 2012, 11:59 PM

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Any of you know whether or not it's okay to remove the SIRIM/etc stickers on the back?

Plus, what is a good way to remove them? Don't want ugly spots on my polycarbonate.
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post Feb 11 2012, 02:46 PM

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The only thing lacking on the WP7 side compared to other OSes are the number of apps/games available.

There's some minor functionalities missing too, but overall, I think WP7.5, iOS5 and Android are relatively on-par with each other. I say this having tried out all the other OSes.

To me, I bought my Lumia because it has a nice build quality, does mostly everything expected of a good smartphone, feels uniquely different ( Metro is good ) and visually very appealing, both in phone and OS.
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post Feb 13 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(edwinlcw @ Feb 13 2012, 12:11 PM)
anyone having purple tint color at the left side of the screen???
mine seems to have this.. damn...
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Didn't notice until you mention it. Yeah, there seems to be a line of pixels with a purple tint.
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post Feb 14 2012, 11:57 AM

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I'm bullish on WP simply because I feel that the Metro-approach will allow it to win out on the apps front sooner or later.

True, right now many apps kind of suck, but those that are well-designed feel so much more fresh compared to the iOS/Android versions. Metro-style as an app imo really works, but a lot of developers aren't going the extra mile to differentiate.
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post Feb 14 2012, 01:28 PM

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They call it Meego simply because of marketing. Just like how some companies throw 4G buzzword when it's not LTE.

I love Meego a lot, but honestly, I would say the best thing about Meego exist in the 'User Experience.'

- Swipe Interface ( edge-to-edge to close apps/go back to homescreen)
- Triple Homescreen. ( mainly the Multi-tasking Screen. The notification and app screen were nothing special )
- Minor UE elements like 'double-tap to home, word-cloud for most visited sites in browser, auto-album word cloud in music app )

And the sexy looking Alarm Clock.

But aside from that, much of the experience, app-wise is no different from Android/iOS. Even for the Nokia-made apps, what they fall back to are having software buttons for navigating the apps, instead of utilising Swipe Interface inside the apps themselves.
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post Feb 14 2012, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(troy13th @ Feb 14 2012, 03:16 PM)
was going to buy N9, till nokia announce they're abandoning it?
I even save up for it but now it seem L800 is better choice


N9 is a great phone even as it is, don't let anyone dissuade you from it.

But just don't expect it to be much different if at all 1 year, or 2 down the road. The functionality you get out of the box will most likely be the same, with minor improvements here and there.

Lumia and WP will be the focus of Microsoft and Nokia combined, and they're clearly throwing all the stops at it.

But don't decide your choice based on what 'MAY BE' from Nokia. Just try both phones and buy the one you prefer overall.

Even now, I still prefer the N9 over the Lumia 800. But I've made the choice of investing myself into Nokia's future direction with WP, and will settle with what it has, believing Nokia will deliver a great, truly Nokia experience come Q3 when Apollo comes out.
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post Feb 14 2012, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 14 2012, 05:27 PM)
No confirmation from Nokia/Microsoft.
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No confirmation, but if Lumia doesn't get upgraded to Apollo at least, it's going to create a lot of customer hate.

Some markets won't even get Lumia until Q3, which is when Apollo is expected to be out.

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post Feb 16 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Feb 16 2012, 01:16 PM)
Nokia purposely disabled it. Supposedly many carriers requested.
But doesn't make sense why the Lumia 900 has it.
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Nokia said they will add it via a software update sometime early this year.

After all, Lumia 800 is obviously rushed fairly quickly to the market, since it has battery issues and lousy camera rendering ( for the hardware it has ). I think Wifi Sharing was probably also not properly adjusted yet on their side, so they disabled it.
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post Feb 16 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 16 2012, 03:28 PM)
Not Nokia, more like Microsoft since Windows Phone OS is by Microsoft.
Follow blindly too much footsteps of Apple's iOS; not sure why they didn't add this, but if there's no any special concerns, they should be able to add this feature in "someday".
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Microsoft obviously wants to sell to us their 'complete suite of M$ services', that's why to use WP, we must use Zune, Bing, Windows Live, etc.

It's part of their marketing, except that they suck at selling the whole package compared to Google, who are expert at combining their complete set of services. ( Docs, Gmail, G+, etc)

If the Apollo leak is to be believed though, seems like Microsoft is stepping back in trying to shove some things down our throat, and we won't be forced to use Zune for syncing in the new update.
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post Feb 16 2012, 04:55 PM

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Can also compare Metro Apps vs their iOS/Android counterparts.

Facebook and Twitter look sooo much nicer and unified under WP Metro design.

Different strokes for different people, but I personally feel that Metro is a very sexy UI/OS.
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QUOTE(edmundlah @ Feb 16 2012, 11:25 PM)
Today I went to a Nokia shop and asked if the L800 have hotspot tethering. The sales personal said that it doesn't have in its original OS but this feature can be downloaded via market place. Is this true? I'm kinda skeptic....
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Not true.

The original OS ( Mango ) has the function built-in... BUT, Nokia has disabled hotspot tethering functions in all their Lumia devices.

They have made a promise of enabling the function in the near future via software update, but as of today, you can't hotspot tether with the Lumia. The hardware/software is perfectly capable of it though, so it's just a matter of time.
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post Feb 17 2012, 02:00 PM

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it's easier to make it low-end than it is to make it high-end.

Low-end just chop-chop-chop features. And make it more lean. Good thing is that the hardware for gen-1 level WP will probably get even cheaper soon, and they're going even lower than that. Won't be surprised if I see RM300-500 if they really push it. tongue.gif

High-end must add features and all that. Just hope they realise they must do much more than be equal to iOS/Android. I mean, Chrome for Android is coming soon and that browser interface idea is awesome compared to IE Tap-Tap-Tap -Tab/Favourites which is slow. sad.gif
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post Feb 19 2012, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 19 2012, 06:15 PM)
There are only 2 things I wanted from Nokia and that is, Nokia Maps and camera. But I read Lumia has lousy Nokia Maps compared to Symbian/Nokia Maps. True?
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The map data is the same.

Not too sure on the difference between the 2 versions, but Nokia has said that they will continue to improve their apps and all major innovation from them will focus on WP
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post Feb 20 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ Feb 19 2012, 11:14 PM)
What's differentiate L800 from the rest of WinPho? I once get to hold HTC Hero (WP7.0 of course), its still not as 'rich' as other OSes. For practical-centric people, yes, it does text nicely, music player is nice, Metro is nice, Nokia Maps and Drive are stellar, but what about other 'unit selling point' that  Nokia offers that can make we say "Man, wanna buy WP phone? Samsung and HTC are rip off!! Go for Nokia!" kind of feeling?
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Rather funny that you say practical, because practical people would easily choose Android or iPhone that are more feature-rich and practical at this point of time. biggrin.gif

But really, Nokia's 'whole package' is pretty much the selling point against other WP7. Performance are roughly equal between all WP so 'price-performance' is really only Lumia 710.

The main reason to go Nokia is because Nokia is obviously the 'premier WP partner' for Microsoft, so the best things from Microsoft and Nokia will both end up in WP first than anyone else. rclxms.gif


QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Feb 20 2012, 05:22 AM)
Dont forget - Nokia Music
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But Malaysia don't get Nokia Music... cry.gif cry.gif

Damn record label agreements.

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