nope...bolded part is just assumption.

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Added on October 25, 2011, 5:26 pmDid they say they can do a better job then the marshals? Or u pull that out of their ass?

This post has been edited by maranello55: Oct 25 2011, 05:26 PM

Marco accidentally cant get his bike up again, two other racer accidentally hit him. his helmet accidentally off. one medic staff accidentally slip while lifting him on stretcher. Accidents can happen.

LoL no need. As the saying goes, "Siapa yang makan cili, dia la yang rasa pedas."

nope. that indicates that they think they can do better.

so ure making that up.

Am I now?

OK guys just put on conclution..the accident is so fatal that mendiang already died on track. But the stupid Paramedic SIC should do something after this. reposta -

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im agree with this

This post has been edited by riph: Oct 25 2011, 05:35 PM

sape mkn cili de rase pedas

the medics are working for Clinica Mobile, not SIC. get your facts right before labeling something stupid you hypocrite.

Betul betul betul +1

Oh...u should go volunteer to be SIC Paramedic already....

God...we are just talking....

the medics are working for Clinica Mobile, not SIC. get your facts right before labeling something stupid you hypocrite.


Its SIC then overall..how on earth they hire them to work for?

So now u can report a better news than him?

Y U NO go do webpage now and do it?

The urgency of the paramedics is appalling. When they see him motionless and unresponsive, the first thing to do is to check whether he is breathing. If he isn't, CPR needs to be initiated and him intubated there and then.
The brain only lasts 4 minutes without oxygen. So, he is most probably already dead by the time he reached the ambulance.

another possible is .... they check ady he is breathing so want to quickly bring him to hospital then too nervous and fell

ok go volunteer SIC/Clinical etc. now.

Opinion from a motorsport fan ... just my dua sen.

The tered seems to derailed a bit ... from the video that showed that the on-track temporary marshall/track medic (not steward as someone wrote) mishandling the situation, which might or might not had added/contributed to the seriousness of Marco's injury which ended in fatality ... to people who wrote about accidents in motorsports are inevitable, thus stop blaming anybody.

As the Big Boss has already spoken, the main issue is, it's unbelievable the proper procedure wasn't followed. Expert or no expert, it's common sense to avoid aggravating the injury already sustained ... especially when one's not an expert, which leads to ... if the track medics in the captured video are really trained medically, the way they acted, it's inconceivable!

Some people said, if don't move, then leave him on the hot track surface or else other bikes will crash into him again? Non-racing fans' comments, I guess. As maranello55 already repeated more than once, there's a purpose for every color of flag during races. RED = STOP, immediately, no need to go around the circuit to get back to the pit. It's not yellow flag. So, the track medics should know that there's no rush to retrieve or pull Marco's injured body to the side of track WITHOUT first accessing the injury. There wasn't any danger of petrol-tank exploding, was there? (in which case, it's understandable to move elsewhere quickly)

Did they really underwent training or they just watch previous racing accidents where track marshall rush here n there to clean up the track (when the race wasn't red-flagged)? Shadow Kun asked about medic car ... in F1, there's a medic car (manned by an official full-time medical professional, n a fast driver) usually a fast supercar, kinda like a recon, to get to the scene of the accidents quickly before the ambulance in order to access the situation and recommend the action taken when support arrives.

So, the main contention is how much training was the 'track medics' given by the organizer? If the organizer did perform their part, then who could be held accountable if the autopsy shows the cause of death could be traced back to the drop? I guess we'll have to wait for the formal inquiry report. Until then, watching the video again ... haih, memang memalukan. Marco 'might' had been fatally injured before being moved (judging from the crash video), but don't lah add to it.


Listen and respect to this senior's opinion.

Sepang International Circuit is the designed in mind for F1. It's the 1st circuit to be allowed to use F1 in its name. Dunno why now it's not officially called Sepang F1 International Circuit any longer, or it still is? And IMHO, ur other comments are quite invalid, sorry.


Luckily, more than several do know the proper procedure to treat major injury, else I dun wanna be involved in a major accidents (but recoverable) on Malaysian roads.

supermoto successfully trolled ... some.
It does seem tragically fated (for those who believed in it), ... that Super Sic won his 250cc championchip 1st at Sepang ... and then ironically met his lowest end here too, altho going out while doing what he like best, racing ...

I just hope safety in all motorsport will still improve a thousand fold. After a lull of minor accidents only (excluding last week's Dan Wheldon's fatal accident, and Robert Kubica's side-rally, and Massa's concussion...I guess I know more about F1 only), we forgot how dangerous these sports could still be.

Marco simoncelli pronounced dead on sunday and my friend is in the team who does his post mortem in HUKM.

So, please stop the argument either he is dead or not.
Respect his family.

Take my statement at face value, or twist it. That's up to you, and by that I mean anyone who reads it.

Likewise

kolos

This post has been edited by maranello55: Oct 25 2011, 06:46 PM