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 Asus Transformer Prime TF201 Official Thread V1, Update with GPS Solution: GPS over BT

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post Dec 10 2011, 05:36 PM

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No point in watching 1080p on these resolutions no. I mean, even on screens below 42" 'Full HD' is of no real use. It is just that I am lazy, and those file types are most common available. But with that prime for example; I would never ever download 1080p when there's also a 720p source available (which usually is). Even 540p would be sufficient, but I am not that familiar with them..
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post Dec 10 2011, 06:29 PM

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fuuuu.... browse tru 17 page... initially plan to get gtab10.1 .. now... ihav to hike my budget abit for this liao biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Dec 10 2011, 11:31 PM

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this crazy gadget make me think again whether to get ipad haha...
ASUS is the next one to change the world ? smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2011, 11:54 PM

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True or not.....

ASUS Transformer Prime Delayed Until Next Year Because Of WiFi Issues?

Uncertain if it would matter for launch/release in Msia though smile.gif

This post has been edited by DikkieD: Dec 11 2011, 12:11 AM
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post Dec 11 2011, 12:16 AM

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^ hmm....
hopefully aval before CNY ...

and also hope the price wont be that expensive...
budget allocated for this max i go for 2.2k w/o keyboard.. ... >.<

This post has been edited by cyruz13: Dec 11 2011, 12:17 AM
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post Dec 11 2011, 06:26 AM

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QUOTE(DikkieD @ Dec 10 2011, 05:36 PM)
I would never ever download 1080p when there's also a 720p source available (which usually is). Even 540p would be sufficient, but I am not that familiar with them..
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540p encodes are basically 1/2 of the resolution of 1080p encodes

540 x 2 = 1080

get it? brows.gif

basically imagine staring at 1920 x 1080 pixels on a 42" tv. or 1280 x 720 pixels, just for comparison's sake.

well imagine, looking at the same amount of pixels on a 10" lcd screen. of course, the actual pixel size is a lot smaller to fit in all of those 1280x720 pixels right.



a fast and easy way to determine wether the video is "good enough" for tablet viewing, is to open the video file on your pc, preferably on a HD resolution lcd monitor.

if the original video size on your monitor is about the same size as your tablet, and you feel the video has acceptable quality, then ok lah. if not then gotta get a higher-res video la.

if the original video size is big, or fill up your monitor (if it's 1920x1080 resolution lah, since your monitor also that resolution), then scale it down until about the size of your tablet screen. if the quality improves, then ok lah tu.


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post Dec 11 2011, 09:05 AM

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Yes get it smile.gif. Thanks for the clarification.

Prime product page has been updated btw.

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post Dec 11 2011, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(DikkieD @ Dec 10 2011, 11:54 PM)
True or not.....

ASUS Transformer Prime Delayed Until Next Year Because Of WiFi Issues?

Uncertain if it would matter for launch/release in Msia though smile.gif
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There is not a confirmed news officially announced by ASUS or other more proper media.
I search around and found mostly point back to same source.
I am still waiting for this hitting the shelves here!
after knew about Asus Transformer even the 1st one, there is no other tablet can catch my eyes, ipad2, galaxy tabs etc.

the SRP will be USD499 for 32GB WIFI model. Docking add another USD149.
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post Dec 11 2011, 01:57 PM

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sucks that many many android apps aren't compatible with the Transformer doh.gif


but surprisingly when i get those apps from "other sources" most of the time i can play it flawlessly. like today's 10cent apps asphalt 6 hd and the sims, they all work on my transformer perfectly, but you can't download it from market because it's not compatible.
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QUOTE(RX-78-2 @ Dec 11 2011, 04:55 PM)
There is not a confirmed news officially announced by ASUS or other more proper media.
I search around and found mostly point back to same source.
I am still waiting for this hitting the shelves here!
after knew about Asus Transformer even the 1st one, there is no other tablet can catch my eyes, ipad2, galaxy tabs etc.

the SRP will be USD499 for 32GB WIFI model. Docking add another USD149.
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here is the source saying likewise

http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/10/2627270..._medium=twitter
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post Dec 11 2011, 07:30 PM

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a lot of bloggers and forums just simply take rumors as official first hand intel and then spread everyway.
Dec2011 or Jan2012, this is still my first choice for it's features.
Hopefully the Jan stock will preload with ICS!
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QUOTE(DikkieD @ Dec 10 2011, 05:36 PM)
No point in watching 1080p on these resolutions no. I mean, even on screens below 42" 'Full HD' is of no real use. It is just that I am lazy, and those file types are most common available. But with that prime for example; I would never ever download 1080p when there's also a 720p source available (which usually is). Even 540p would be sufficient, but I am not that familiar with them..
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This is not true. I can see very big difference between 720p and 1080p files on my 40" FullHD LCD TV. The details are very real. Even on my 720p 32" HD ready LCD TV, 1080p is still better due to the higher bit rate, with less smudges of colour in dark/same color areas. I have like 4TB of HD movies currently. So don't argue with me...tongue.gif

But on a small tablet, 720p is more than enough.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 11 2011, 07:55 PM
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post Dec 11 2011, 08:03 PM

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how many people will always copy 1080 file to watch in the tab? perhaps one time happy only.
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post Dec 11 2011, 09:14 PM

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if ur tv big and u sit not far... u will notice the picture less sharp on 720p (but this also only apply if ur tv is full hd), 1080p on the other hand will be more sharp becoz of the more pixel it has in it to fill out the 1080p TV of urs..... 720p u will have less pixel to fill a 1080p tv hence less sharp.
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post Dec 11 2011, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Dec 11 2011, 08:03 PM)
how many people will always copy 1080 file to watch in the tab? perhaps one time happy only.
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Yeh, a full HD without compress is around 20GB , no one go copy it . Only Asus have SD card slot support 64GB Class6 maybe 3 movies .
No one will use it to watch , except some compress HD .mkv file.
QUOTE(0300078 @ Dec 11 2011, 09:14 PM)
if ur tv big and u sit not far... u will notice the picture less sharp on 720p (but this also only apply if ur tv is full hd), 1080p on the other hand will be more sharp becoz of the more pixel it has in it to fill out the 1080p TV of urs..... 720p u will have less pixel to fill a 1080p tv hence less sharp.
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Buy a 720p HD ready LCD and watch 720p . you'll get sharpest. biggrin.gif
By ,next year , there'll be retina display on Galaxytab and ipad3 , then you can watch it full HD.
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post Dec 13 2011, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Dec 11 2011, 09:14 PM)
if ur tv big and u sit not far... u will notice the picture less sharp on 720p (but this also only apply if ur tv is full hd), 1080p on the other hand will be more sharp becoz of the more pixel it has in it to fill out the 1080p TV of urs..... 720p u will have less pixel to fill a 1080p tv hence less sharp.
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generally yes, but only to a certain extent.

if you buy a high-end HDTV, it'll probably have a very good upscaling tech built into it.

what most people don't know is that 1080p is just the pixel size. if a 1080p video is poorly encoded, low bitrate, it will look worse than an upscaled 720p with high bitrate, high profile encoding, etc.

for comparison's sake (easy style comparison):
Bluray 1080p = 25GB disc = 40Megabit persecond bitrate (video data per second) MAX
DVD9 = 8GB = 10 Mbps
DVD5 = < 5GB = 2-5Mbps
Astro 1080p HD = 1~3 Megabit per second per channel (the more HD channel, the less bitrate per channel)
1080p MKV file = 2 - 5 Mbps, some can go 10 Mbps

there are many, many factors concerning video encoding/rendering technology and skill, which is why groups like FASM, HDLiTE, etc exists. because it's never as easy as comparing 1080p vs 720p.

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post Dec 13 2011, 10:02 AM

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So I should look for "ANDROID IPAD MP4-FASM" and "720p.BRRip.x264-HDLiTE"...both crews don't have that much, but they do have the latest movies.

Must start looking into converting them myself as I watch the latest movies on my big tv and not on a tablet. On the tablet I watch mostly series; but they don't seem to encode those yet...
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post Dec 13 2011, 12:00 PM

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yeah they don't have everything, but the selection is good biggrin.gif and they take the time to offer the same movie in many resolutions biggrin.gif

others might work too... well i guess we have to try and report here lah biggrin.gif
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post Dec 13 2011, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Dec 11 2011, 07:52 PM)
This is not true. I can see very big difference between 720p and 1080p files on my 40" FullHD LCD TV. The details are very real. Even on my 720p 32" HD ready LCD TV, 1080p is still better due to the higher bit rate, with less smudges of colour in dark/same color areas. I have like 4TB of HD movies currently. So don't argue with me...tongue.gif

But on a small tablet, 720p is more than enough.
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I cant see the differences on my 40" full HD, I stop downloading 1080p now if there's 720p source, good enough, faster download and ease on my hdd.

I sit very close to my TV, around 8 feet from screen.
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post Dec 13 2011, 01:44 PM

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Well, much of the media I watch will be from home. Perhaps I can just stream the original 720p files (of those series) directly via wifi. For example a typical Big Bang Theory file:

Bit rate : 3 647 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps

I saw ASUS Transformer Prime Test with WiFi Analyzer & Tour of my House Linus Tech Tips today where they test wifi. He talks about streaming media from home...this would solve most of my problems, as I don't mind downloading some special media for when I go on trips and such.

About the resulution and differences between 720p and 1080p and such; all of my friends don't give a rats ass about the crisp quality. They are amazed of course of how crisp it is, but if I ask them (or even my wife) if they see difference they all say no.

Shitty that Asus Msia still hasn't released any genuine information about release date and price...






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