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 Asus Transformer Prime TF201 Official Thread V1, Update with GPS Solution: GPS over BT

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post Dec 15 2011, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Dec 14 2011, 09:35 PM)
it's different. See Honeycomb (in transformer or xoom or most tablets) or Android 3.x doesn't support running/storing apps or app data to external storage  - be it SD Card, MicroSD or USB drives.

if you look at the file structure, the folder /sdcard is in the internal memory itself. Quite different than say, virtually every phone which runs Android 2.x where /sdcard is the actual SD/MicroSD itself.
if you're like me, been downloading 3D/Tegra apps like crazy especially during these $0.10 app sale for the last 7 days, you'll see your space shrinking like crazy. Most 2D apps are OK, the highest amount of downloadable data being only 20MB or 50MB. But 3D apps, not so small.

Asphalt 6 HD: 500+ MB
GOF2: 500MB
Great Battles: Medieval: 500MB
Shadowgun (really pretty and awesome 3D shooter): 600MB
Captain America: 250MB
Riptide: 500MB
Trainz: 300MB
Pro Eleven Soccer: 150MB

...... and so on
most of these 3D games will download extra files to the /sdcard folder. so in Honeycomb/Transformer it will be the internal memory, while phones it will be in the microsd card folder.
my 3D games in total (around 20) takes up almost 8GB of space  rclxub.gif luckily my work files can be saved to my 32GB microsd and 32GB sd. if you read from llobak's link, you can have a better idea of what google is doing with honeycomb (and android 4.0 icw sad.gif ):
you can read further in the link to see why with Honeycomb google decided that /sdcard should be internal, and not the real sd card (which is /Removable/SD or /Removable/MicroSD). I can understand google's decision, but it would leave power users like me unable to maximise the full use of my Android machine. If 16GB is a lot for you, then OK man, good on ya biggrin.gif but for people like me, we really have to choose carefully of our Honeycomb/ICW device with big big internal storage, like the 64GB Transformer Prime  hmm.gif
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i get what u mean, i am also a power user. and i'm also downloading games like crazy lately. I've got tonnes of high end 3d games that uses a lot of storage space, but until now, my 16gb sd card isn't full yet, that's why if u get the 32gb version of the prime (i'm sure u'll AT LEAST get the 32gb), space won't be a problem. those users who are not as crazy like us, 16gb internal storage is more than enough.
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post Dec 22 2011, 12:57 PM

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[quote=soulseeker6187,Dec 22 2011, 10:48 AM]
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i saw this will come sooner or later.
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i saw this coming when the first Transformer tablet launched.
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post Jan 3 2012, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Jan 3 2012, 01:22 PM)
Another disappointing news for Asus Transformer Prime ... that it come with locked bootloader.  shakehead.gif

http://www.mobilemag.com/2012/01/02/asus-t...ked-bootloader/
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mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif ....................................... vmad.gif

come here to protest!
https://www.facebook.com/ASUS?sk=wall

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post Jan 5 2012, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Jan 5 2012, 05:52 PM)
then consider no gps lorh. they cant even promise that it is working. never thought it would happen after a long wait. well, apart from the disappointment, it's a good thing tech moves on fast nowadays. bye2 TP. sad.gif(

and i hope you'll get sued for using the name of Optimus Prime!!  vmad.gif  tongue.gif
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i'm also fxcking frustrated, so hyped up about this, but in the end, no gps (as u said, weak gps = no gps). was planning to get a multi function tablet to replace my ageing laptop, for car gps / entertainment system + multimedia system during my lunch / dinner time entertainment + travel companion to remote access my Linux servers (need the keyboard to type commands). but the gps is such a let down! now don't know what to buy already......i won't get dual core tablets, and other brand's quad core tablets don't have any news yet...
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post Jan 6 2012, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 6 2012, 12:07 PM)
just excuse smile.gif
later will complaint to big to put in car, no car holder la ... kena break in .... haahaha
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10 inch isn't that big, and i have already customized a place that can fit the tablet in.


Added on January 6, 2012, 1:59 pm
QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 6 2012, 12:23 PM)
even there is no issue with gps,i wont use mobile device(phone,tablet) as main gps for car as i feel they not reliable enough compare to standalone gps device..as long as google maps working then is fine

but maybe is just me
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u won't, but i will.

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post Jan 6 2012, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 6 2012, 02:10 PM)
like i said,is jsut my own opinion

i know tablet or smart phone can do everything in 1 device but sometime i prefer reliable device for something else such as gps..

i had a weak gps device before which has a weak GPS but at least it gave me an accurate location in google maps.. rolleyes.gif
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i'm using my phone as a gps now, it also has a weak GPS (HTC, which is known to make it's devices using aluminum). if the sky is clear it's very reliable, but when it's cloudy, it's so hard to get a lock. when i use my LG O2X as gps, it's super reliable even if it's raining cats and dogs because it's made out of plastic. In my experience, u don't really need a dedicated GPS device, just need a plastic phone or tablet to do the job. and there's no turn by turn navigation in google maps (for malaysia), that's why i don't use it during driving.
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post Jan 7 2012, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jan 6 2012, 10:25 PM)
Maybe I didn't explain well and what makes you think I hate TP.I just compare the price vs the need of one of the user meeninme post.
1. Compare to readable outdoor , yeh other product is cheaper and works better - GTab 10.1
2. Quad-core gaming when mention about xbox thing - A must to buy an extra keyboard which worth of RM 500 to plugin to the USB port
3. Tablet to Netbook hybrid is a great but compare to the keyboard price RM 500 is a bit expensive.Maybe getting this is better ? http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-Wi...ands-on_id25096
4. ICS is an upgrade - software part . If you really need ICS , can go for custom rom.


Added on January 6, 2012, 10:30 pm
I mention , I never hate any TP product  doh.gif , I just compare only.
Micro HDMI even TF101 also have smile.gif
Yeh , 6hrs battery life in keyboard dock is good , advantage , no other product have it.
first ever tablet to sports Tegra 3 but pricey only

If the price = TF101 , why not buying ? + GPS fix
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that moto keyboard is HUGE, and fugly, and also expensive (RM300+ converted directly), it's trackpad is almost useless, and it doesn't provide extra battery. i prefer the TP keyboard dock, just because of the extra battery although it's not wireless. and it looks way nicer.

i really do hope ASUS can fix the GPS issue, but the way things are going, they might not be bothered. I agree they should really bring down the price to justify the useless GPS function.

there aren't any other tablets in the market that has almost all the things i want like the TP, the keyboard dock for me is VERY important because of typing Linux commands and also the extra juice it provides. although there are some wireless keyboards that can be used with tablets, they are quite big in size and uses the tablet's battery because of Bluetooth, and i hate to carry two different devices all the time (the TP and keyboard dock is considered as one device because.......it's a Transformer thumbup.gif )
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post Jan 7 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ganstream1 @ Jan 7 2012, 11:08 AM)
this isn't such a good news, the good news (if it will ever happen) is that ASUS fix the GPS hardware issue. We all know that 3g version will come eventually, but most of us won't be bothered by it because we have wifi hotspot on our phones.
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post Jan 8 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Jan 8 2012, 03:04 PM)
good news. i believe the TP 3G will have that GPS signal problem fixed. so just wait and see how Asus deal with this sort of thing. it is happening and there's nothing you can do. furthermore, TP with Win8 is otw though it might be long from now but well, still it is becoming a reality. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Jan 8 2012, 03:15 PM)
^not yet. It's otw. And only God knows when it's gonna be here in malaysia market. tongue.gif
TP with Win8 is on its way too. but dont be too excited about it. It might be here end of this year. sad.gif That if the earth would still exist by the end of this year. sad.gif(
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good news for those who can really wait, but for ppl like me who are already in the market for a laptop replacement, it's not news at all, i need the TP NOW! and by the time the 3g version comes out (2nd half of 2012), there would be tonnes of other choices like the Samsung (rumored) quad core 11 inch tablet with super high res screen.
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post Jan 10 2012, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Jan 10 2012, 06:03 PM)
WHAT MAKES THE 7" DESIREBLE IS THE PRICE USD 250 drool.gif
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i'll buy both of them if the price is like that. seems like Asus is going to make a plastic version to fix the gps issue and a higher resolution display. I have no choice but to wait if like that
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post Jan 14 2012, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(meeninme @ Jan 14 2012, 06:29 PM)
Wohooo~
It's ICS! rclxm9.gif
Everything looks snappier.
The light bleed is also gone, I think ICS did this.
The camera is also having a firmware update right now.
I'm loving it, but I have to let it full-charge first.

Just of you who are in JB.
Skudai Parade is having 1 only TP.
It's the Grey Amethyst one, I took the Champagne Gold.
So better rush there if I were you. whistling.gif
I'll upload the gold one paired with the dock soon.
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post Jan 16 2012, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Cynox @ Jan 16 2012, 04:43 PM)
wow... looks like all the new Prime sapu by LYN gang.  laugh.gif
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damn, these guys are really crazy sweat.gif

anyhow, ENJOY!
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post Jan 29 2012, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 29 2012, 10:26 AM)
Already went to both shop. NO test unit. Apparently the test unit also being sold out to people.

Saw one unit at SenQ Gurney Plaza. Not on display tho. You have to find the sale person and ask about it.
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a guy was asking about the Prime in SenQ's facebook wall, they responded saying that they are selling it, but not yet comment on stock availability yet
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post Jan 31 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(meeninme @ Jan 31 2012, 05:10 PM)
Noticed the brand new first page.
Thought I could add 1 sub-topic.
After doing much research, I would like to share this with you all.

CONTROLLERS

1) USB controllers

They could be any of the following:
- Generic USB controllers (Tested)
- PS3 controller with USB cable (Not tested)
- WIRED XBox 360 (Not tested but it will identify itself as a USB controller too)

Tested my brother's Logitech USB controller.
Played Riptide GP and Shadowgun with it, buttons can be mapped inside the game.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Played GTA 3 on version 1.2. No go... No button mapping either.
But I think the 1.3 version will be plug and play. Just have to figure out what button do what.
My brother already took the controller with him. biggrin.gif

2) Bluetooth controllers

They could be any of the following:
- Gamestop (US) BT controller (Not tested)
- PS3 controller (Not tested)

Nvidia claimed that these controllers do work for ICS.
The Gamestop BT controller does work and is bundled with the Prime in the US.
Several others did manage to play it with the PS3 controller.
But its not as easy as plug and play.
You need to be rooted first, and use the Sixaxis app.
Or to avoid root, use the USB/BT Joystick Center app but you need an extra BT dongle for it to work.

3) Wireless controllers

- XBox 360 controller

As I only have this unused controller, I'd spent the most of my time studying on it.
No if you plug in the Play and Charge kit it will not work.
It will not identify itself as a USB controller, but it will charge the battery pack.
Turns out you have to have a PC XBox360 wireless gaming receiver along with it.
http://www.mudah.my/PC+Wireless+Gaming+Rec...360-8919162.htm

Once you plugged it in the USB slot, press the guide button to let it sync together.
It will blink continuously, don't worry. Its normal.
Played Riptide GP and Cordy on it, works great! No mod need to done.
Played Shadowgun and GTA 3. No go... The character just starts spinning around in circles.
What you need is the USB/BT Joystick Center app, and the light will stay on the first quadrant.
Activate the app first, press back and select your games.

First it was Shadowgun.
Following the button mapping here:
http://poke64738.freeforums.org/shadowgun-t5.html
Export (Save) it. Next time import (load) it again.
It works! icon_rolleyes.gif

Next was GTA 3 version 1.3.
This time follow my button mapping in page 2 for the app:
http://poke64738.freeforums.org/gta-3-t6.html
Even the app developer thanked me for this! blush.gif
Don't forget to export (save) it. Next time import (load) it again.
GTA 3 is now playable using the wireless XBox 360 controller.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Now imagine you could hook this up to your HDTV.
Ur TP now is a full gaming console with 18 hours of battery life without even plugging in the power cord. rclxm9.gif
Happy to share this with you!
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have u tested it with a bluetooth mouse? i'm planning to get the microsoft arc mouse if can use it on the TP Prime
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post Feb 1 2012, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(hseyrann00 @ Feb 1 2012, 05:43 PM)
Congratz on new comers and cyruz on new casing  rclxms.gif
Can't wait to see the actual picture.. biggrin.gif
anyway, i bought case B from keeplwk already. ETA 1 week.
and bad news : my transformer started to lag edi..  sad.gif
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u r using ICS or honeycomb?
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post Feb 1 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(hseyrann00 @ Feb 1 2012, 06:40 PM)
ICS.
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what process is lagging? browsing the homescreen? in the apps drawer?

did u use any live wallpaper, or any widget that may cause the lag?
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post Feb 4 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Lucassss @ Feb 4 2012, 09:41 AM)
for $99 bucks, add a bit more to get the galaxy Y to use it as a phone and wifi hotspot
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post Feb 4 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Lucassss @ Feb 4 2012, 11:41 AM)
Can get it about RM250-280 in garage sales bro. Anyone here wants to give it a try?  brows.gif
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which one, the G-Y or the thingy from China?

the Y can is priced around RM400 in garage sales also, which is around 150 price difference. i'm sure the Y will work perfectly because i'm using it as 2nd phone and hotspot, anyone wants to be a white rat to test the china thingy that cost RM250 which is quite expensive?

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post Feb 4 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Lucassss @ Feb 4 2012, 11:51 AM)
Different la bro, the thingy from China will make you TP a phone itself, which can actually call and send SMS, not just 3G bro.

But what you said is also quite logical, get a cheap Android phone and use it as second phone and WiFi Hotspot, but the battery life is another story la.

My primary phone is a Blackberry, but unfortunately I haven't found any telcos offering BIS plans that includes WiFi Hotspot.
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FYI the Y has great battery life. stand by time at least a week, use wifi hotspot at least 5 hours, which is more than enough when u can charge it using USB via the Prime when the battery depletes
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post Feb 4 2012, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Lucassss @ Feb 4 2012, 12:15 PM)
Are you serious bro? That's damn good for a cheap smartphone. I think it's even better than most smartphones on the market.

But I already have a HTC Legend lying around, if I decide to go with the WiFi Hotspot way, I'll use my Legend.

Hopefully someone who has used that China thingy on a TP can give a review.
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yeah it's darn good to use as a second phone and to share the 3g out. I use it only for these 2 functions (receive / make calls and hotspot) only, nothing else, so seldom switch on the display. i say stand by time AT LEAST a week, actually after 7 days it still has 30% left

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