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louyit
post Jun 9 2015, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Jun 4 2015, 03:02 PM)
Need advise urgently.

Recently, I traded in my old car to a second hand car dealer and the ownership was transferred on the spot using online system (Sistem Tukar Milik Sementara). Then, the dealer sent my old car to Puspakom for B5 inspection. The inspection result failed because the car was cut and joint.

With the failed inspection, does that mean the ownership transfer which was done using the online system earlier is not valid anymore? Is the car still under my name or under the dealer name?

The dealer kept saying the car is still under his name which doesn't make sense to me because the inspection had failed.

And the dealer wanted me to refund the money to him. I am ready to refund him provided the car is still under my name and I get back my old car and the car registration card.

Any advise is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Although I'm not 100% sure about your status right now, but I believe the car is still registered under your name and the earlier transfer has been voided since you mentioned "Sistem Tukar Milik Sementara". My best advice is that both you and your car dealer visit JPJ personally with car registration card ready and check the status with JPJ.
louyit
post Jun 11 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Jun 11 2015, 09:04 AM)
I went to talk to an officer at Wangsa Maju JPJ.

Under Sistem Tukar Milik Sementara (STMS), the car is permanently registered under the second hand dealer name after 6 months if the dealer didn't manage to resell the car.

In my case, the dealer won't be able to resell it anymore because the car has been blacklisted as kereta potong. It failed Puspakom inspection.

What that means is my car is a junk now. I have to write it off as total lost.  cry.gif I am a loser here.

Lessons learnt from here is when you send your accident damaged car for repair, make sure that the workshop doesn't use patch-up method/cut-and-join method. I suspect that was what the workshop did to my car 13 years ago and the method is not considered illegal back then.  sad.gif
The kereta-potongmenace
Q: What is a kereta potong?
A: It is when one half of a car (front or back) is joined (welded) with another half to form a car. The halves usually come from two different cars that survived a bad accident or from imported “half-cuts” (one half of a car).

Q: How did this practice of joining two halves of a car start?

A: A few years ago, there was a lack of guidelines and it was not mandatory for inspections to be done on cars. The cars should have been considered total losses but insurance companies chose to salvage them.

Q: Why was this done?

A: To save money. The companies did not want to pay the full claims for a car that should be written off, so they gave the go ahead to “fix” the car. It is a cheaper and faster alternative to fix one half of a car to another than to fix the car’s bonnet or bumper individually. 

Q: So is it harder to get away with it now?

A: Since mandatory inspections came into force in 2005, the kereta potong are being identified.

Cars that don’t make the cut: http://www.thestar.com.my/story/?file=%2f2...48272&sec=focus
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Some nice info here albeit the bad news. U mentioned earlier that the dealer has paid u the money and now he is asking for refund because of failed PUSPAKOM test. I wonder whether u can just ignore him and transfer that loss to him (although I know this is morally wrong laugh.gif ).
louyit
post Jan 6 2016, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 5 2016, 12:46 AM)
Is there a quicker procedure if I just want to transfer car ownership to a family member?
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1. Call Puspakom and book an appointment for B5 inspection
2. Inspect your car
3. Bring the B5 inspection certificate and new owner to any JPJ branch to do ownership transfer
louyit
post Dec 20 2016, 06:14 AM

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QUOTE(starz92 @ Dec 19 2016, 02:05 PM)
Guys,
I am currently planning to let go my Proton Wira which is immovable condition . (not sure what spoil but mechanic confirmed not engine problem.
Problem is can I do ownership transfer on this case?
How do I pass the puspakom test or is there any exemption for it? The car can not start now..
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If you can't start it, it can't pass puspakom test. Change another mechanic.
louyit
post Mar 3 2017, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ Mar 2 2017, 10:08 PM)
To anyone that want to buy car direct from owner. i have the agreement letter sample for you to safeguard your(buyer) interest and his/him(seller),This is to avoid THE DEALS BECOME SOUR later on.

here is just part of the sample..very straight forward and simple. just edit it according to your car info.
Drop me and email,i will send you the full version only if the link is not working anymore.
here is it: https://mega.nz/#!z1YTRRhZ!n74WK5BM...vprODHx7sNZgvoA

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This agreement letter is created by my cousin who work at a lawyer firm...i used it only once ,so kinda waste to delete the document file.
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thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif Very useful document and thanks a lot for sharing it to everyone on this forum! Appreciate it.

 

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