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post Oct 17 2011, 08:29 PM

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hi guys, how are you doing? just wana ask ur advice.
my car is now arnd 10+k km... so i tot of doing tyre rotation.

is that advisable to take care of my tyres? also about alignment and balancing, is it good to do or only do when i feel my alignment is out?

pls advice, sifus! thanks
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post Oct 18 2011, 08:44 PM

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guys, can anyone tell me how many service compulsory to do with proton? is it only first 3?
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post Oct 19 2011, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(jason1986 @ Oct 19 2011, 10:58 PM)
how did it crack? did it just crack by itself? or got hit by stone? if crack by itself and ur car is secondhand, i think might be accident car.
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mind to explain why u say may be is accident car? tq
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post Oct 21 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Oct 21 2011, 04:21 PM)
hi everybody
during the car is idling, when a/c is kick in, will the rpm needle fluctuate(move up abit then goes down)?
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yes it does. even u switch on ur headlights it fluctuates but very little..
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post Oct 30 2011, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Oct 29 2011, 11:58 PM)
SM>?  rclxub.gif

i am using castro magnatec now, but i am changing to mobil 1. fully sync next service.

recommended lub

semi:

-castro magnatec
-caltex havolin
-petronas syntium

fully:
-castro edge
-caltex havolin

this is what my persona club member using, din know how is other brand of lub perform eg, eneos, motul etc.

as long as the lub grade is 40w should be ok. don use 50w cos the oil a bit thicker and make the engine feel very heavy.

as for grade 30w is a bit too thin, engine will respond faster but do keep in mind that proton campro engine suggest us to use grade 40w. 30w can use but for long term you engine will suffer in wear and tear for the piston inside the engine.

don ever use shell helix. engine feel low power and sluggish after 3k mileage.

another tips, for better performance and giving your engine smooth, each time you service your car, ask the foreman not to pour in ngam ngam the amount of lub inside your engine.

eg persona lub capacity is 4L but for real it only is 3.75 liter because there are still remaining oil in the engine. if your pour all 4L then the engine lub will overflow and made the engine more heavy. mean the lub is over the max line from the oil indicator. even you use fully syn lub. i dono what is saga blm engine lub capacity la.  laugh.gif

the best is pour ngam ngam between the max and min line for the oil indicator. or ngam ngam max line will do.
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hi.. thanks for ur detailed explanation. in this saga forum, sifus will only reply "according to your budget, got money go for more expensive one" .... my opinion, expensive is not always better!

btw i have been using petronas syntium now since 1st service, recently found one sc nearby (according to persona thread) can bring own oil so i wana try. do u think castrol magnatec and syntium is same or sure got difference? and the rm99 one is ok? some ppl said its seal is broken some say its for european use not suitable for malaysia etc etc.. what u think?
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post Oct 30 2011, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Oct 30 2011, 12:41 PM)
syntium and magnatec of cause got diff la. but proton SC charge syntium slightly more or same price as castro magnetic. why don you try castro magnatec since your sc allow to bring own engine oil? Our club persona TS using caltex havoline even exp because he love performance.  laugh.gif

castro magnatec is RM 99, tesco price. don believe on what ppl said. go do some research. I am using castro magnatec after mine 1000 km service. until now 50000 km already. engine still running strong.  flex.gif

if you wan good performance and quiet engine you can go for Castro edge. RM 188 tesco price. Confirm you will like it. but it is a bit exp to change it every 5000km. Change it 5000 km for tip top performance.

u buy it at tesco all the time? mind to send me the link to persona thread pls? i lost it... many useful info there. smile.gif

thanks for the advice bro.
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post Oct 30 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Oct 30 2011, 01:19 PM)
Aiya.. It's ok ma.. smile.gif U can always come Persona link to ask if u have any doubts.

As for the engine oil price, cheap doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.. Sometimes it's because they keep stock. And the european lube part is true, but applies mostly to supermarkets like Tesco.
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haha now that i got the link there, will drop by more often.. smile.gif

btw, the european part is true, so is it still ok to use tesco oil? or buy from spare part shop better?
advice..
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post Oct 30 2011, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Area51SE @ Oct 30 2011, 01:36 PM)
Yeap but so far no review yet from anyone that owns a FLX and a Lagi best smile.gif Thanks anyway
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should be FLX 1.6 vs Lagi Power Lagi Best!
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post Oct 31 2011, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(jflcorp @ Oct 31 2011, 08:04 AM)
Don't you know Ron97 or Ron95, it is all the same? Proton cars recommend and built for Ron91 and above.

So both are usable. The rest is all placebo effects.
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u sure with your statement? that means i can use ron92 for my ride?
come on... it is NOT the same... if same then y the price is different?
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post Nov 1 2011, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Oct 31 2011, 11:10 PM)
oh damn..felt weird with my car..after doing 10000km service,now im using shell ultra. I notice i can manage to clock 90km mileage with 2bar...(btw i pump till full tank till nozzle trip, everytime to check mileage)

if im not mistaken 2nd bar usually will drop after 120~150km

any comment..or should i remove batt cable to reset ecu.
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many ppl still talkg abt resetting ecu... gosh.. can someone tell in what situations ecu reset is needed?
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post Nov 1 2011, 08:26 AM

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hm eric hope u wont mind but i just wana check if my lovely ride is normal or not....

for every full tank (arnd rm57-59), i get 300-320km.
is this normal?

50% city, 50% highway... pls advice...
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post Nov 1 2011, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Nov 1 2011, 08:28 AM)
Pretty average. Just don't go to the extreme and keep the low fuel indicator blinking

If the fuel pump spoils, don't come looking here whistling.gif

If manual, it is possible to yield a bit better results.

Since your is auto, i believe 350km to 380km is still possible...
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nola i usually pump when there is one bar left..
what i am giving u is average reading...

how do i strive for 350-380? im using petronal 95 extra now.. first used shell but it sucked...
mileage 10k + now.... oil: syntium...

tyre all checked often...

plus i work on shift, sometimes night shift and rarely use the air cond after work because i will already be freezing.... and at times i try to off the aircond wen its too cold... yet my fc is cry.gif

This post has been edited by rajivshm: Nov 1 2011, 08:43 AM
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post Nov 1 2011, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Nov 1 2011, 09:36 AM)
Try use other engine oil & petrol, Shell & Petronas is out of my Campro's diet...

Did your SC pour all 4l of your engine oil into the engine? if yes, it will effect FC and power. Same theory like when you ate too much and too full you are not active anymore.
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i read abt this when u posted either here or pplyn...
not sure coz serviced few weeks ago.. next service will monitor them and make sure not too much poured...

as u knw, SC guys are too smart laa... drool.gif
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post Nov 1 2011, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Nov 1 2011, 01:53 PM)

Mostly its not needed.. Cos the current ECU will adept to ur driving style and new mods after a while..
Install lightened crank pulley and dump away ur cat-con, get a 4-2-1 extractor. Denso Iridium 0.4mm Spark Plugs, Works Drop-in air filter and u can save a lot of FC ady..
Furthermore u need to consider other stuffs too, like petrol brand ( i recommend using Caltex ron95 for S4PH) Stick to the same brand, dont go changing everytime cos later the ECU will be busy adapting and u can realise the full potential.

Engine oil please avoid Shell.. I recommend Castrol Edge/ Idemitsu/ Eneos for fully sync and Castrol magnatec for semi sync. Make sure the engine oil is not overpoured into ur car.. and use 0/5W-30grade oil..
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bro, abt the works drop-in air filter, is it DIY'able? Im not too good in automotive n dun wish to ruin my car if things go wrong... smile.gif
i knw one guy frm pplyn tered sells that (or automotive garage), but im in pg n he is in kl, how do i fix it then... lol....

also, this filter is water washable? or need to use that special liquid@oil?
any one knows any mechanic in penang/mainland area familiar with these filter stuff so i can keep to him?

also, last ques icon_idea.gif does it void warranty for engine if change filter n spark plugs? my car is barely 6 months old thumbup.gif
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post Nov 1 2011, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(catalystgenesis86 @ Nov 1 2011, 08:27 PM)
Hi guys.. when I was parking just now..  I accidentally rammed into the parking pole bar...  So my bumper now got scratch mark that is yellow... Due to the colour transfer of the pole bar.. sad.gif

My questions are:
1) How to fix the bumper? Replace new one? How  much does it cost to fix my bumper area?

2) Any way to conceal it for the time being?

I took the pictures of the damage done... But I  dunno why I cannot attach the photo...
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try to wipe with wax/polish it.. will help provided paint is not out... icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 1 2011, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 1 2011, 09:25 PM)
its easily DIYable...there a box there near the engine...open the box...the filter is inside
just exchange it only
if you're scare warranty void...keep the ori filter ...switch it for 1 day when u go SC service
when reach home..change it back
its washable...only need to reoil it after u wash it....if not wrong only wash it once every 40-50k KM

spark plug depends on u...it will void the warranty of the engine and u can't exchange it every time u go SC
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wow..thanks alot bro... hmm since spark plug voids warranty, shud i wait for 3 yrs then oni consider this 2? hehe


Added on November 1, 2011, 9:54 pm
QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Nov 1 2011, 09:27 PM)
Open air filter box, take out orange color filter (stock), put in new one.. thats why its called drop in

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oh, so thats d "drop in" ? lol// thanks 4d explanation brooo rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(vccy @ Nov 1 2011, 09:31 PM)
got 4 clips at a long box. unclip it and you will see the ori air filter. Take out and replace it only. If still not sure, go SC and ask the workers there show you how to open the air filter box.

it is water washable. wash it every 5k mileage.

filter, spark plugs, timing belt, tension belt, coolant, brake pad, tyres, rins, light bulbs, and other stuffs that are use to be worn and tears are not include in the warranty.

by changing Lighten crank pulley, camp pulley will void engine warranty, but i dono change exhaust will void or not.
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aikk bro, mr alien said it voids warranty.. u said dont...
depends on SC also??

btw thanks for the explanation... will try try myself if cant then see during next service la... smile.gif interesting!

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post Nov 1 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 1 2011, 09:58 PM)
it's worth doing it after 3 years
cuz now when service in SC..every 10k they will change for u
depends on how long u driver...3 years estimated 60k KM already...1 year is around 20k KM
by that time...u change to iridium...it should last a lifetime in your car...won't even need to care abt it already unless hard to crank
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but whats the point if voids warranty?? just for spark plugs i ruin my engine warrantly right? yawn.gif
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post Nov 1 2011, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(catalystgenesis86 @ Nov 1 2011, 10:04 PM)
Get shop to do? Or DIY?
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wen u wash car ask them do la.. tats what i do... free lagi rclxms.gif
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post Nov 1 2011, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 1 2011, 10:32 PM)
ps. Juz think of the new "lifetime" warranty of power windows...
Izzit worth sending yr car to Proton SCs for 10 yrs high cost services juz NOT to void its warranty? whistling.gif
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thnks for the replies n explanations, sifus!
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hmm... 10 yrs is too long, but 3 yrs ok right? and,dont tell me u did not service ur car in proton for first 3 yrs?

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post Nov 1 2011, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 1 2011, 10:46 PM)
it's better to be untouched
what u say is reasonable but car manufacturer give u that warranty and they can easily take it back if they found something is wrong
so it's better not use aftermarket stuff unless confirm all ok

added:if really want to use aftermarket stuff or want cheaper service
at least wait until 1 year/20k service(1st major service)..for a few reason
1. to ensure nothing wrong with engine and GB
2. to ensure other part no problem as well...those that will cost alot of money to replace
3. for those who didn't read manual, u'll have the receipt from 1st service till 20k service...can use as guidelines when u service outside....it's better to follow else problems will come to u
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good comment bro.. appreciate it! drool.gif

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