Sigh..lazy to explain further

read this
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47088095

Btw, just to let you know i aint bullshitting, i got a band of 8.5. Yupe i screwed up speaking(7.5) because you cant really train that aspect unless you speak alot of english with your peers

The grading system is flawed in the sense that they round the overall scores up. My friend had the exact same scores as me for the rest(9,8.5,8 except for speaking 8.5), we still ended up with the same overall band. See? One whole band difference yet we still get the same band score.

This post has been edited by C-Note: Jan 5 2012, 08:53 AM

ielts results are given in a range of 17 bands....which means, generally, each band may include 6% of a student cohort (it does not, based on the gaussian curve, but let's assume linear results).....therefore, the bottom student and top student of a band, say 7.5, will have results that varies little bit.....it is after all. an averaging of the individual bands....

that makes it rubbish?.....

well, the a levels result comes in 6 bands.....assuming the same linear result, each band may include 14% of students, more than double that of an ielts band......therefore, the range of results within a band, say b grade, must be quite large.....

therefore, based on said argument, the a-levels is absolute and utterly double rubbish test.....

ditto for stpm....they have 13 bands.....still less than ielts.....

nice one.

He didn't say it was rubbish, just flawed. It doesn't mean the grading system is totally stupid or useless, just not very accurate (hence, flawed) because it takes the average score. Just like your markah purata for your school exams.

by the same token, the a levels must then be an extremely flawed exam, as it is so inaccurate, averaging everybody's score into just 6 bands.....

spore and hk must be mad to use the same a-levels format.....and uk and oz unis must be really stupid to depend on a flawed exam for selection of students......

A-Level is different because the average results are taken from 3 or 4 completely different subjects. IELTS, on the other hand, takes 4 components and gets an average result of a same subject - English. When you submit your A-Level result, they generally look at the overall performance and the subjects that are needed for the course you want, whereas for IELTS that won't look at each components and they'll only look at the overall grade, but of course some universities would want you to reach a certain grade for each components, but yet overall grade takes the priority. This is not the same for A-Level because sometimes for some courses they look at the subjects that are needed only, which means an additional subject may be ignored. This is not the same as IELTS because you can't ignore any component.

There's no need to be so harsh and called these uni stupid. Everything has flaws, and exams too have flaws. It's quite hard to find a flawless thing in this world.

This post has been edited by justarandomboy: Jan 5 2012, 11:41 PM

you obviously will not get a 9, as you have problems with sarcasm, which is the hall mark of the english language......

you are wrong.....there is NO a level result that is the 'the average results are taken from 3 or 4 completely different subjects'.....

'This is not the same for A-Level because sometimes for some courses they look at the subjects that are needed only, which means an additional subject may be ignored. This is not the same as IELTS because you can't ignore any component. '.......how does this make ielts more flawed than a levels?......the logic escapes me.....

Sorry, I should change it to STPM instead of A-Level. It would be clearer if I wrote STPM. My apologies. Even so, they are still different because three or four subjects are there in A-Level while IELTS is about a language with its components.

No sarcasm was intended. Don't have to be cynical though, no one is trying to patronise you, just voicing out some opinions.

I did not say IELTS is more flawed, I simply said they are different.

This post has been edited by justarandomboy: Jan 6 2012, 12:05 AM

nobody used the word 'flawed' except you, so yes, you indeed did say a levels is flawed.........

again, you failed to understand subtleties of the english language.....not only did i never say you were sarcastic......you failed to detect my sarcasm when i called the universities stupid.......

and seriously....how can one confuse the a levels with stpm?......

what r the fees do u guys take the IELTS?

that would be a band 4 or so.....

spoon feeding appears necessary here....so there http://www.britishcouncil.org/malaysia-exa...yment-terms.htm .........mum mum.....

I thought there will has a small difference if from different places ?

This post has been edited by AP.L: Jan 6 2012, 12:21 AM

you are right.....it is different.....

http://www.malaysia.idp.com/ielts/how_to_register_.aspx

rm10.....

I think you have failed to understand me completely. So instead of flogging a dead horse here I'll just leave a final reply.

Yes, I did use the word 'flawed' by telling you what C-Note was saying. IELTS grading system is somehow flawed. As for the other one I was answering your question about 'how IELTS is more flawed than A-Level'. I was simply telling you A-Level and IELTS are different. I thought you misunderstood me by thinking I was saying IELTS is more flawed than A-Level, which I didn't. I merely stated that A-Level is different from IELTS.

I did not actually get confused with A-Level and STPM. Again, you've failed to understand me. Using STPM would simply give a clearer picture about what I was telling you about the relevant subjects and ignored subject because STPM has a grading system that is similar to IELTS - CGPA. But yet my point should be clear, A-Level and STPM have 3/4 different subjects while IELTS is only one subject and though IELTS is somehow flawed, it's quite wrong to say A-Level is too flawed in the same way because they are not exactly similar.

so a levels and ielts are different.....how does that make ielts 'flawed'........?

you clearly said 'a levels'......and you expect people to know you mean stpm?.....