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 Nokia N9 - V02 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Oct 12 2011, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(CoMMie @ Oct 12 2011, 11:00 AM)
Anyone encounter problem with battery charging?
it shows fully charge but when i unplug the cable it drops right to 96%

is this normal?, already try hard reset but still the same issue
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Kernel will automatically discontinue charging after 96%+.It's done to prevent overcharging & damaging battery in long run.
To be precise I think N9 should charge till 96.6% like N900.
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post Oct 12 2011, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(PyOsE @ Oct 12 2011, 12:38 PM)
any idea where i can get the codecs for N9? i have problems playing my mp4...

if it's available for N900, N9 should have it too rite?
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Try asking in Maemo Talk.
Else you can try porting/repackage N900's codec to N9.
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post Nov 2 2011, 10:03 AM

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"Icons are boring & static.They don't do anything & just sit idle.WP7's tiles are more interesting & useful.Other OS don't have things like this"

These are some of quotes from Microsoft & Nokia regarding WP7.
Correct me if I'm wrong but even WP7 do have static icons in their version of application menu right?
Also regarding it just sit idle & do nothing,that's the point of having widget you dorks!I don't want some stupid tiles flipping in my phone the whole day doing pointless stuff.

With Lumia series I didn't see much difference between Nokia's WP7 & other OEM's WP7 devices.For now the Lumia 800 will be known as N9's rip off & leng chai phone.

I don't know exactly how long MeeGo Harmattan will be supported by Nokia but as things look like now if Nokia dropped support for Harmattan, that's it,you're stuck with the the software you have at that time.
Blame Nokia's Aegis for that.
Because of this stuff like CSSU,3rd party kernel (with MeeGo Harmattan) ,OTG & other enhancement are impossible.
Nokia keep telling that there's open mode with N9/N950 but in order to get that you need to flash MeeGo kernel & run original aegis free MeeGo.That's dumb.

Listen to me Nokia:
Me & bunch of other guys are willing to buy N900 even though Nokia stopped supporting this device long time ago.Part of reason is it's semi-openess which means renegade developers can offer 3rd party OS updates & it's hacking ability.

Now tell me why I or any other users should buy a device that'll be stopped supported soon? (if Nokia provide software update for MeeGo Harmattan 5 years later PM me & I'll go buy Nokia's WP7 device)
Also renegade developers can't enhance the OS due to your stupid security policy (aegis).If a device is dumped by both manufacturer & developers there's absolute no point for regular users to buy that device.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 2 2011, 10:17 AM)
Tiles are icons to them? I don't it's some sort of widget replacement, like live wallpaper or something. I think they just went as lame as Apple' SJ giving funny and lame explanation? The problem with the "tiles" is, it's always a tile-style-kind-of-homescreen. Imagine the homescreen is tile base, 2D flat; I think it can be done for Android if they want to? Even better, you can choose they wanna use tile-theme or normal theme, or even better, 3D-tiles, pwned, oh wait, later kena "sue" for copying.

Lumnia got dedicated shutter key.... but then the LED Flash is reposition, don't know why and it's awkward position, maybe to differentiate it's not a N9 from behind?
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Tiles are tiles
Icons are icons.
No what fancy word microsoft trying to use to describe them these 2 are different things.It way looks fresh But I don't see much use of scrolling endless tiles.Better just put widget.It'll show more information & offer better flexibility.
Already got WP7 launcher for Android.Lame.

Sue here,sue there.Tell them to shove their money to their @** everytime they win a case.
If you want good progress of innovation you may have to take others idea & modify to suit your idea.All innovation happens like this.Try to go 1 up against your opponent with your device if you see their innovation with their device is better.
Lot's of people said Google should sue Apple for copying Android's notification system.I don't think the same.
I'm quite sure that Andy Rubin & co laughed knowing they have went 1 up against Apple because Apple copied their stuff.
The patent system itself if very flawed.A patent for the "slide to unlock"? THAT"S JUST PLAIN DUMB!

The basic idea behind N9 is buttonless design.I think since it's possible to have onscreen shutter Nokia just removed it.

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Nov 2 2011, 11:14 AM)
But it's not dumped by manufacturers or developers yet. Nokia has said they will provide updates for a few years and apps are being developed for N9. The long term prospect for Meego continuity is dim as Elop has announced no more Meego phone. But I doubt consumers look that far ahead. All they want is a good phone to last maybe 2 years before they upgrade.
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Not dumped by manufacturers yet...
Should be soon once the WP7 takes effect in Nokia.
And once it happens you'll know how important it is to have the renegade developers I'm talking.
After N900 reached EOL these developers are the one who kept N900 in actions by providing fixes & updating functions.With this aegis restriction it'll be very hard to reproduce of community updates.

QUOTE(ViRaViRa @ Nov 2 2011, 12:10 PM)
How did u do that?
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This hack was discovered with N950 initially.
Dig up MeeGo forum.Kinda surprised it took you guys this long to discover this hack.
The last time I heard this hack people were commenting that there are some bugs when icons rotates & rearrange itself?
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Nov 2 2011, 03:38 PM)
Siri announce,the world:wow!!this is something new!!
shakehead.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif new??symbian user tried vlingo years ago..undoubtedly apple marketing is best of mobile phone industry.
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Siri: Why are you guys keep on undermining me?

Yes,but to be honest The AI behind Siri is a lot better than competitor.
It may not be much useful for phones but maybe it'll be useful for AppleTV.

Gesture & voice control with Microsoft's Kinect is great IMHO.

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Nov 2 2011, 03:48 PM)
PR_1.1 for tune-ups and bug fixes is about to be released and PR_1.2 with new features is at an advanced stage so N9 users are at least assured of these 2 updates. Beyond that I won't worry too much. In comparison most Android users only get one os update from the manufacturer.

As for apps there's a good chance renegade (enthusiast) developers will keep the platform alive just like they kept N900 alive. So think positive and get your N9 soon.  thumbup.gif Andy will be getting one as soon as he clears his tax.  tongue.gif
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It's good if Nokia do include new features in PR updates for N9.That's more than they every did for N900.
Generally Android device do only get single version update but with that update. they get bunch of new features.
Can Nokia deliver the same thing? I sure hope so.

Unless the aegis thing sorted out I won't be getting N9.I need easy debian & other cool stuff I had with my N900.

QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Nov 2 2011, 04:02 PM)
Anybody tried the firefox mobile 10 beta? Ok or not?

Cute tube not bad. Download, upload also can, very convenient.

Wifi is ok, since the router is upstairs. When downstairs still can detect.  At shopping mall, MCD is downstairs, i one floor up, can detect & surf. E6 still better though, same place 2 bar, N9 1 bar.
 
Typing on virtual keyboard can never be as smooth as physical keypad. Nokia better not stop producing qwerty/slider phones, it's one of the few reason general public still choose Nokia
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Love cutetube from my time with N900.One of the 1st proper app written with QML for N900.

IMHO the best qwerty product so far from Nokia is the N950 but sadly it's not released for public.Weird thing is N950 is getting more software support from Nokia now.ipv6 stack just released for N950.

QUOTE(arsaa @ Nov 2 2011, 04:15 PM)
Ya bro....did notice some bug....when it start rotating landscape or portrait....sometime the home icons didn't appear....but when swipe to other home....the icon appear back

anybody else notice this?
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Try dig up the initial thread about this hack & ask others help to resolve this bug so the transition can be smoother.
But since the main UI is closed sourced it'll be bit hard to dig deeper into this.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 2 2011, 04:41 PM)
Yes, the AI is better, but the AI mostly likely not newly develop, it could be taken or bought over from somewhere or at least the algorithm or structure/foundation. Just like Chess game, you don't have to develop from scratch, there're algorithm for it, developing from scratch can be very tough and many logic to consider, one of my college project was doing local version chess (Agong, Bendahara, etc) and the chess piece logic is different, but I face problem with to get the game working as I have to write my own algorithm and logic. Luckily it was not required, just need to provide the concept and can work in basic can already.

As for SIRI, there was AI chat bot since long ago, nowadays Chat Bot are way smarter and better, if you played with them, SIRI is nothing really; SIRI still falls behind but it's because SIRI needs to be more "educated" and "controlled", hahaha.
Firefox quite resource heavy, but it supports multi-tab, history, bookmarks, settings and plugins.

You paid for CuteTube? What about mediaDownloader?
N900 also have CuteTube but it's free.
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Well SIRI was initially meant to be used by DARPA right?
Also SIRI was developed for a long time which is why the AI is better than regular voice recognition product.
Yeah,logic is the hardest thing to implement in chess.Some of my lecturers are doing chess programming during their spare time too.Quite complex.

Firefox...It promised many things but so far it failed me in MeeGo,MeeGo Harmattan,Maemo & Android.Somehow the app simply use too much of resource,hangs once in while & lags.Mozilla should try to improve these things first instead of just fast update of core firefox system.
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Unusual battery
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post Nov 4 2011, 01:06 AM

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My god Andy...
If you tell me that you got any other grade than "A" for English in SPM,I'll be damn surprised....
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As I suspected Nokia Drive ported to other WP7 devices.I assume other "Nokia only applications" can be ported too.
Lumia series just lost 1 advantage.

I got damn exited seeing the 1K price tag for N9.Too bad it's not true.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Nov 8 2011, 07:18 PM)
even your SGS II now consider outdated already.
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Actually no.
Benchmark wise it's still one of the top performer even though it's was announced & sold long time ago.

Alien Dalvik needs deep integration with MeeGo which Nokia currently refusing to all developers.

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Nov 9 2011, 09:44 AM)
But Sifu hasn't got an N9 so is not an expert on N9.
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What to do...No money.
Waiting to strike 4D 1st.
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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jan 9 2012, 10:50 PM)
Hmm, it seems like someone is selling me his N9 64GB for 460 Euro (around rm 1.8K). New set, unopened box btw.

Should I take the plunge? I wavered quite a bit cuz at that price, I can get a brand new SGS2 plus a 64GB Micre SDXC card (Yes. SGS2 supports it)

Thoughts welcome!
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64GB model bit overkill for N9 because there's hardly any proper applications that needs large space.Unless you store lots of movies & songs then it's a different story.
I suggest you to get the 2nd hand 16GB model from garage sale.There are some people selling for decent price.

I'm looking for N9 16GB model for around RM1.1K.I know it's a quite low price but can't afford to throw money around now sad.gif
If I managed to get it's back to having fun with terminal & hacking.Android sucks in this department.

I've been using SGS II for almost 4 months now.Although I'm very happy with the general performance & there's just things that keeps me look for N9.Everytime I go to DiGi center I'll definitely play around with N9.For me this plastic slab is simply irresistible.

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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jan 9 2012, 11:19 PM)
Means I'm salivating over N9 design laugh.gif
Sadly I'm not in Malaysia now. So no buying from LYN.

Yes, I'm well aware of the fact that its a tad overkill for having 64GB on N9. Kinda pointless, considering it cant even handle 720P video well, unlike my tried and tested N8. A lil bit frustrating on that.

I've been using wp7 nowadays thru my Dell Venue Pro, and trust me, its really good. But little that I know, I become more and more dependent on Google services (Music, Email etc.). So using android is a no brainer. And my Galaxy Tab clearly cant cope with my usage, and its a lil bit too big laugh.gif

Thats why I'm eying SGS2 now. Which is such a pity, as I really, really loved Maemo (and to some extension..Meego ha3). Heck, my N810 still going strong as my glanceable, always connected bedside tablet.

But that design! Haha3, maybe I'll follow your advice, scavenging for good deals on N9 16gb. Or should I get the Lumia 800? Hmm.....new dilemma.

*in b4 first world problems*
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Where are you now?
There still some good deal in ebay.Try searching there.

For WP7,fluidity is there but in term of functionality it's not even on par with Symbian.
I'm not a big fan of Android (or Samsung average software department) but Android does the most things for me with some degree of openess.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jan 11 2012, 12:59 PM)
Can get DiGi internet gila promotion, you pay only RM48 for 3GB data instead of the normal RM68, and you can get the phone around RM1.1K brand new; OR you can buy from people who want to take the plan but don't want the phone.

Android still lags, it needs a lots of RAM especially with all the services and apps available; the worst part is the homescreen keeps restart; These important processes like phone, etc. should be kept in memory so we can access it fast. I guess you need to root it and install some apps to control this. Anyway, the most lacking part is the lack of true multi-tasking.
True, WP7 is really stable but it's also very plain and simple, 2D. If fluidity is what you're looking for, N9 or WP7 is what you need. If you need apps, WP7 will have more prospect and the upcoming updates should have more functions and features available plus refinements.

If you planning to get Android device, the device will need lots of ram available especially if you plan to install many apps which provides background services. Plus, the widgets too. Still, Maemo FTW! Despite how old it is.
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But you need to pay RM500 advanced for for the DiGi Smartplan right?
I don't think there will be anyone want the smartplan but don't want the phone.If iPhone plan then it's a different story.

For Android I think you need around 768MB RAM to make everything smooth.When I first used SGS II I was quiet shocked to see the phone using 450MB+ RAM for regular operation.That's higher that my still rocking windows xp running pc.Even after all sort of modding mine still need around 380MB+ during idle.Google should try to optimise Android more.
Sony Ericsson(yours) & Samsung(mine) always had issues with software side.Hence the crashes & etc.However in recent time uncle Sammy got slightly better while Sony,well still suck.Aside from some logging tool crash I haven't experienced any crash with my SGS II(on both stock & custom tom)

Like what I said before,in term of functionality Symbian is better than WP7.If Nokia give Symbian a proper UI overhaul I think Symbian still can be competitive.
From what I can see now Windows Phone 7 starting to gain some track now from developers side.Plus it has decent value added services now.Most of this things happened because of Nokia's involvement in WP7.But it's remains to see what's the end users perception on WP7.

@Andy
You won the N9 from the Rangers contest?
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^Really? You got the sellers thread?
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Jan 14 2012, 08:56 AM)
Don't forget more common reasons.

Not enough apps
No Whatsapp
Nokia name is not cool
Galaxy S2 is too 'sexy'
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Without Nokia or Motorola mobile phones wouldn't even existed.
I have SGS II.N9 looks a lot better than SGS II.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jan 15 2012, 09:53 PM)
If original get it replace at Nokia care centre
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I don't think there's AP set for N9
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Ooooo maiii goooddd....
Are you guys still discussing about the stock micro sim & diy micro sim?
Just give it a rest already.Plenty of people using diy micro sim with iPhone happily.
Just let the user to choose how he/she want to obtain micro sim smile.gif
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QUOTE(visualfoley @ Feb 10 2012, 10:35 PM)
JUST WANT TO SHARE with you guys,

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4815558/Nokia_N9_R...l_L1L2_v1.0.pdf

how to disassemble the nokia N9.
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Interesting...I wonder why the service manual recommends using a shielding lid once once.

It's possible to reset N9/N950 using flasher tool.

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