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 Nokia N9 - V02 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Oct 17 2011, 03:26 PM

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facebook app not stable.same as mine.

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post Oct 18 2011, 11:41 AM

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the battery life not much diff with N8.
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post Oct 18 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Oct 18 2011, 11:43 AM)
the biggest change would be the outlook... LOL most of the ppls around me are amaze by the N9 striking outlook...  tongue.gif
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ppl around me are very bias and most of them Nokia hater.if u didnt unveil the Nokia logo still ok.they sure this cool that very yeng.after u show/tell them its nokia.MEH,plastic,screen small,UI sucks...
sgs2 housing very strong meh?
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post Oct 18 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Oct 18 2011, 12:09 PM)
LOL... what?? ur friends been cheated by nokia b4 huh??? they all seem "hate by brand" LOL...  laugh.gif


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don't you know the nokia office only have <10 employees to handle all their business??  whistling.gif
they're extreme BZ ok...  doh.gif
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know what.N97 is the "flagship" destroyed nokia image.

QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 18 2011, 12:13 PM)
Not Nokia hater, just that Nokia's image is a little staid, not for young and trendy now. It's like those who won't be caught driving a Volvo. This will actually work against Nokia's WP7 phones succeeding. Nokia is delusional if it thinks their brand name will give WP7 platform a boost.
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branding and image.undoubtedly nokia always use yesteryear processor.its not Volvo at all,the engine isn't good enough.although the ARM11 in symbian and this ARM A8 in N9 is acceptable but people looking for Ferrari or Lambo performance.
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thanks for sharing.
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post Oct 18 2011, 06:31 PM

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16gb isnt enuf?its more than enuf for me since the apps still very limited.
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post Oct 22 2011, 10:16 AM

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i never got this problem.
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post Oct 29 2011, 06:47 PM

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upgrading. smile.gif
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post Oct 29 2011, 07:19 PM

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better than iphone.according to those mobile phone reviewer.
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post Oct 30 2011, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 30 2011, 12:29 AM)
I won't say doing something right, it's more like the penetrated the market right and know what people wants. What I don't like is how they change the perception and how people see smartphones, and influence some manufacturer to follow its trails, scaling down the OS, removing features, adding restrictions, etc. (e.g. removing Flash support)
If you have tried Maemo, it was an amazing OS, one of the closest to true mobile computing, there's Desktop, support for Full Flash, true multi-tasking, etc. While iOS is like the complete opposite, it doesn't want users to interact or know any of that stuffs, it prefer simple user; In short, it treats EVERYONE as the same, simple user. The good thing is it's easy to use, but there's totally no room for improvement, you can't turn on advance mode; By making things simple, their OS is easily managed, less problem, less complain from users facing problem, and they also make the user so used to it that, when they see something more advance, the user will feel it's too complicated and hard to use.
Personally, I won't consider it as doing something right, but they understand what people wants, apps/games.

Like you said and I said before too, apps can be created anytime, but the OS is only control by the manufacturer and it also depends how customizable and flexible it is.
There sure will be apps and games available, just the matter of how many and more importantly, the quality and useful ones.
And for apps, I'm not sure how many people always use apps and use many types of apps; I installed a lot of apps on my N900, also on the iPod Touch (which I get because I wanted some apps, but after that I hardly even touch it), but I'm not really using the apps much; With a good browser, I don't even use Facebook App, etc. I surf full desktop version sites, so there's no need for FB App and so on. But with the N9, it'll need to rely on the Facebook app, but I still stick back to the N900 most of the time, the N9 is more on reading the feeds.

Anyway, what is the important apps to each person is also the factor, e.g. WhatsApp; As you can see, because of just one app, WhatsApp, it can deter someone decision from getting it, despite how much they want it, and they don't really care about other apps.
So, the manufacturer doesn't have to get many apps to be available for a platform, the most important is they need to know those important and popular apps, and made it available for their platform.

No yet, probably after I return the review unit first, plus tight budget. This years monthly income tax deduction calculation really caused a lot of trouble, last month and this month salary, the income tax deduction both increase by few hundred? Really wonder how they set the formula... how suddenly increase and by few hundred...
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i also never use any fancy facebook app. smile.gif just desktop site all the way.
btw,i treat app is an extension for a smartphone capability.just like microsoft windows,without software,microsoft windows won't be so useful.i got to admit iOS still incomplete even the latest iOS5 but it's most successful OS ever.IMHO,the majority of people want speed,simple,apps and slim.(they dun care whether it's smartphone or whatsoever,as long as it's touch screen)This is why i4 and sgs2 success while N9 got speed,simple and slim but lack of apps support is critical disadvantage for N9.TBH,Meego is still new,judge Meego now isn't fair at all.Judge it after 2 years,fingercrossed!

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 30 2011, 02:32 AM)
Apps sure will have, just the question of how many and how many are the good ones. More importantly, does it have the apps/games people want. If there're millions of apps, but all useless apps, there's no point. If there're 100 apps, and most of the apps are very useful, popular and used by many, that's more important.

Apps can be built, can be ported, anytime, as long the the developer develops or port it over; but if talking about OS, then it's different, for people who truly want a smartphone and its capabilities, will be looking for more capable OS, plus, the flexibility and customization means it's good for both the user and developer.
iOS successful because of the branding and its apps. Branding cause it's like a fashion, people wants it, like a must have, everyone talks about it.
As for the simplicity and smoothness, other OS can achieve it as well; the difference? iOS is there only, only provide the most basic features, doesn't matter who you are, it treats you as a "dumb" user, nothing else; just like what I said, imagine a camera with full AUTO mode, and little or no settings; It treats everyone as beginner and forever a beginner, it doesn't want people to learn and improve.

SGS2 is running Android, which compared to iOS, is big difference. People who realizes the limitation of iOS, will eventually move on/away and "upgrade" to other true smartphone OS, like Android. Similarly for tablets, but for tablets, even Android is not good enough because people will again realize, what they want is to be able to run those Windows app, so they again switch to Windows Tablet, but for most people, Android Tablet is good enough, while some others iPad is good enough. Just like for some people, a netbook is good enough, they only use for browsing, watching some movies, listening to music and play some facebook games; Those more demanding uses will not look at a netbook, but maybe confused into buying a netbook for its price.
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The majority of people need simple,slim,apps and fast.undoubtedly maemo5 was a best os but it's not simple for majority in the market.N9 is the 1,simplified,faster and more user friendly.Most of the user in the market are not geek.IMO,90% of the phone user are just normal user which need only simple+fast+apps.They don't care about limitation of iOS and Android(still got a lot of limitation here and there).back to the N9,it's good enough,suit for the mass market demand.1 or 2 more years will cater the market as the apps ported or developed for meego.
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whatsapp,viber,line,talkbox.
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2% market share?elop said competitive ecosystem.
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Oct 30 2011, 09:59 PM)
Wooi, I just fell in love with the Metro UI you know. So, don't talk bad about WP please. But you can talk bad about S(tupid)Elop tongue.gif
I installed so many stuff to make my phone look as much as a WP phone as possible. LOL.
And I'm really impressed at how real it is. Android is POWER wey! laugh.gif
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install windows phone 7 and meego launcher la.
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screen protector for N9 RM10 only.diamond.


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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Nov 1 2011, 10:23 PM)
Still the same. Microsoft still doesn't allow UI to be customized.
Well, i don't know, I think the os is quite original, neither ios or Android.
They also produce WP7 phones.
Nokia's name is associated with boring, cheap phones. It's image is staid and stodgy. The Nokia name won't attract young trendy people like those who won't be caught driving a Volvo. It's like a marriage between the boring and the hated.
But this is nothing to do with PC business. Their dominance in PC os may work against them as nobody wants smartphones to be dominated by Microsoft.
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non customisable UI is totally fail.look at the world now,ppl who choose Android for uncountable custom rom, theme, widget, launcher.ppl who holding an iphone always trying their best to hack/jailbreak to "enable" the customize function.

well,i've been following nokia conversation or official nokia site discussion area for quite a long time.rather than complain,a lotsssssssssss of "suggestion" there.they just don't listen to consumer/customer opinion and feedback.just like SE(they insist SE fast port instead of micro usb,m2 instead of micro sd,insist standard os) couple years ago but SE started to change since 1 year ago when they realize their market dropping fast like waterfall.Motorola as well.

for example,i believe even really hard core nokia fan also drooling for dual core processor on nokia phone right?1gb ram on N9 is a good sign that nokia starting to change.their image associated with boring and cheap phones very much due to their "unique" strategy.appearance of elop will make the change even faster?catch up the competitor in terms of hardware and software?we will see.

microsoft got the greatest software engineer in the world but they just don't understand what's the market demanding.so much limitation for wp7 even mango.screen resolution,processor,ram,graphic card all were fixed by microsoft.moreover, the WVGA,1.4ghz single core(before mango 1ghz) are outdated,not following the market trend.it's little bit hard to convince the market.the os itself is solid,fast,smooth but consumer outside there want higher spec,better,more.microsoft can do it better,maybe on next update. fingercross. smile.gif

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Nov 2 2011, 11:30 AM)
I have installed apps in my Android to make it look like WP7.  laugh.gif
Messages, Phone, Gallery, Music Player, Email all have WP7 UI. laugh.gif
Got bored with it after a while. Still prefer Homescreens with widget and shortcuts. Convenient. laugh.gif
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me too.i even hate it when i was using HD7 for 2 months.no wallpaper,ugly UI,live tiles drain battery fast,no widget.
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Siri announce,the world:wow!!this is something new!!
shakehead.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif new??symbian user tried vlingo years ago..undoubtedly apple marketing is best of mobile phone industry.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Nov 2 2011, 10:58 PM)
LOL...

I like this... YEARS AGO AND STILL LIKE CRAP...

Just like the N company... We had Symbian decades ago and still like crap...

If its all about marketing, then I think something is wrong with 30% of the world smartphone user.... and something even more wrong with the 18% Symbian user...
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undeniably symbian not improving much but do u get the point Im talking bout?something new but actually its nothing new.its just modify/advance version.ppl not even know their previous smartphone got this feature.it shows that failure of Nokia to introduce their phone.btw,apple do it very well.every single functions of their phone well known by everyone.
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due to the weird curve screen design.
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