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razorboy
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 Oct 13 2011, 09:48 PM
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Good god hoxy, why so much hate? Quite frankly, I haven come across any juicers that juice to do those two moves. Get it right, bodybuilding is different from the things you do. It's about building and sculpting your body not performing personal feats like yours, no disrespect to you. Lay off the hate on this, and do understand what roids do before saying added fat around the waist. Though the most of us don't juice, but that doesn't mean you don't offend those who bodybuild naturally.
Lay off the hate. People have a choice. And roids don't do jack if one doesn't put in the hardwork and perseverance. You wouldn't want bb to step all over what you do , why turn the tables like this? Chill. It's a discussion. No harm done.
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mikehuan
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Oct 13 2011, 09:53 PM
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watched that, highly educational documentary. and gymnasts do take roids.
however, hoxy, cyloh, you guys are talking about different things here, imo. we are weightlifters, and we know just how much difference of a gap between a juicer and a natty. a natty can do EVERYTHING right and still lose to a juicer who trains nonchalantly terms of size, body definition and endurance. theres just no competition.
you guys are talking about calisthenics, tendon strength, bodyweight exercises. things that dont really matter to weightlifters. we just want to get massive, and lift more poundages; functional strength dont really matter.
not taking anything away from juicers though. ive seen them train and its bloody insane. props to them for such dedication to the sport.
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hoxy
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Oct 13 2011, 10:19 PM
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This post has been edited by hoxy: Jun 13 2012, 05:22 PM
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darklight79
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Oct 14 2011, 12:15 AM
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I'll eat your food
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Oct 13 2011, 10:19 PM) OK fine. DL and all... peace!  Sorry if I offended anyone, I know I did. I'm going to stop now and stop talking nonsense in this thread... No it's not really nonsense. I understand how you feel. You've developed an impressive level of strength as a natural. I used to be like you, thinking that AAS is so unfair and all that but it's a personal choice like I said. Take pride in the fact that as naturals a lot of you have achieved a higher level of physical development than a lot of trainees on AAS but like I said, someone who has the same genetic level with equal amounts of dedication, determination and an intelligent approach to training with drug assistance WILL surpass a natural trainee, period. But what is stupid are some people who have just a few years, months or even weeks of training start juicing before hitting their genetic potential. Those are lazy fools. And one more note, certain steroids actually ENHANCE CNS recovery. This post has been edited by darklight79: Oct 14 2011, 12:17 AM |
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TSamy89
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Oct 14 2011, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:15 AM) No it's not really nonsense. I understand how you feel. You've developed an impressive level of strength as a natural. I used to be like you, thinking that AAS is so unfair and all that but it's a personal choice like I said. Take pride in the fact that as naturals a lot of you have achieved a higher level of physical development than a lot of trainees on AAS but like I said, someone who has the same genetic level with equal amounts of dedication, determination and an intelligent approach to training with drug assistance WILL surpass a natural trainee, period. But what is stupid are some people who have just a few years, months or even weeks of training start juicing before hitting their genetic potential. Those are lazy fools. And one more note, certain steroids actually ENHANCE CNS recovery. I watch a video on youtube that steroid will build muscle depending on what kind of workout we do...EXPL Weightlifting/bodybuilding/endurance...TRUE???FALSE>>> |
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bata
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Oct 14 2011, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE(amy89 @ Oct 14 2011, 01:28 AM) I watch a video on youtube that steroid will build muscle depending on what kind of workout we do...EXPL Weightlifting/bodybuilding/endurance...TRUE???FALSE>>> depends on your type of training lah. not necessarily muscle. for example a Powerlifter and bodybuilder used same amount xxx mg of Test per week, the powerlifter will gain more strength compared to bodybuilder, but bodybuilder will get more muscle mass. Chow |
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Aztec
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Oct 14 2011, 12:36 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « After months of stomach pain, Münzer was admitted to hospital on the morning of March 12. By 7pm, doctors had decided to operate to stop bleeding from his stomach, but shortly afterwards his liver and then kidneys failed. His condition by this point was too severe for a blood transfusion—he died on the morning of March 13, aged 31.[1][2]
The autopsy gave the cause of death as dystrophic multiple-organ-failure.[3] Some of the specific autopsy findings:[3]
* An extremely muscular physique, with an almost complete absence of subcutaneous fat
* Affecting the liver were numerous table-tennis-ball-sized tumors, typical for doping; half the liver consisted simply of a crumbly mass, similar to polystyrene (Styrofoam)
* Diminutive testes
* Cardiac hypertrophy (Münzer's heart weighed 636g; a normal man's heart usually weighs 300–350g)
Münzer's electrolytes were also completely out of balance, and his potassium levels were extremely high. Traces of about twenty different drugs were found, along with acute toxicity (perhaps caused by a stimulant).
Schwarzenegger sent a wreath to Munzer's funeral in Styria, with the message 'A last greeting to a friend.'[citation needed]
[edit] Münzer's drug regimen[3]
Daily
* Ephedrin
* AN 1
* Captagon
* Aspirin (to thin his blood and help with the pain of training)
* Valium
* Clenbuterol (muscle growth with fat loss)
10–6 weeks before an event
* 2 Injections of 250 mg Testoviron (mass gain in the muscles)
* 1 Injection Parabolan (anabolic to muscle growth)
* 30 Tablets Halotestin (anabolic steroid for force production)
* 30 Tablets Metandienone (anabolic steroid for mass and force production)
* 16 IU of STH (growth hormone: Muscle growth with simultaneous fat loss)
* 20 IU of Insulin
5–2 weeks before an event
* 3 Injections Masteron (for muscle hardship and sharpness)
* 2 Injections Parabolan (anabolic to muscle growth)
* 30 Tablets Halotestin (anabolic steroid for force production)
* 50 Tablets Stromba (anabolic to muscle maintenance and definition with more hardship)
* 2 Injections Stromba (anabolic to muscle maintenance and definition with more hardship)
* 24 IU of STH (growth hormone: Muscle growth with simultaneous fat loss)
Two weeks everyday until the competition
* 2 Injections Masteron (for muscle hardship and sharpness)
* 2 Injections Stromba (anabolic to muscle maintenance and definition with more hardship)
* 40 Tablets Halotestin (anabolic steroid for force production)
* 80 Tablets Stromba (anabolic to muscle maintenance and definition with more hardship)
* 24 IU of STH (growth hormone)
* Insulin
* Aldactone, and Lasix (water reduction in the muscle) read up on Andreas Munzer..scary amount of gear in his pre contest stack..mind=blown |
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TSamy89
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 Oct 14 2011, 07:53 PM
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I just came back from the gym and I meet the guy who took the "steroid"...I ask him for one pill so I can show to you all for educational purpose only...I do not recommend you all taking this but it's still a personal decision.... As far as side effect he told me body smell(his sweat got a weird smell)  and Acne on face and back.  Pill is on the 20sen coin next to my manja colour protein drink...Sorry about the bad quality I took the picture with something not called a camera...  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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pedro
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Oct 14 2011, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(amy89 @ Oct 14 2011, 07:53 PM) I just came back from the gym and I meet the guy who took the "steroid"...I ask him for one pill so I can show to you all for educational purpose only...I do not recommend you all taking this but it's still a personal decision.... As far as side effect he told me body smell(his sweat got a weird smell) and Acne on face and back. Pill is on the 20sen coin next to my manja colour protein drink...Sorry about the bad quality I took the picture with something not called a camera... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « That's Anabol. Mild oral steroid. Dianabol better! |
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TSamy89
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 Oct 14 2011, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Oct 14 2011, 09:15 PM) That's Anabol. Mild oral steroid. Dianabol better! He said he pop 2-4 pills a day...Depends on his workout....Can you share the difference of Anabol and Dianabol...  |
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Aztec
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Oct 14 2011, 10:57 PM
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dbol is another famous oral steriod..it is the heart shaped pill  2-4 pills should be about right if its 10mg per pill(at least hes doing the dosage right)..lol ask him about how long is he cycling and his PCT |
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ChinHong86
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Oct 15 2011, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE(amy89 @ Oct 14 2011, 08:53 PM) I just came back from the gym and I meet the guy who took the "steroid"...I ask him for one pill so I can show to you all for educational purpose only...I do not recommend you all taking this but it's still a personal decision.... As far as side effect he told me body smell(his sweat got a weird smell) and Acne on face and back. Pill is on the 20sen coin next to my manja colour protein drink...Sorry about the bad quality I took the picture with something not called a camera... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « is this the legendary bintang aka honey star? |
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TSamy89
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 Oct 15 2011, 05:34 AM
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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Oct 15 2011, 01:53 AM) is this the legendary bintang aka honey star? I guess so because people call it pill bintang...
Added on October 15, 2011, 7:58 amQUOTE(Aztec @ Oct 14 2011, 10:57 PM) dbol is another famous oral steriod..it is the heart shaped pill 2-4 pills should be about right if its 10mg per pill(at least hes doing the dosage right)..lol ask him about how long is he cycling and his PCT Will ask him later if he is at the gym... Read online forum that a healthy men produce around 60-80mg of test a week...So this pill is 10mg of test or less??? This post has been edited by amy89: Oct 15 2011, 07:58 AM |
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pedro
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Oct 15 2011, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(amy89 @ Oct 15 2011, 05:34 AM) Read online forum that a healthy men produce around 60-80mg of test a week...So this pill is 10mg of test or less??? You better read up on how Anabol works,your above statement shows your lack of knowledge. |
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Aztec
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Oct 15 2011, 06:31 PM
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example of roid use to cut..some of u guys may have seen this guy around the interwebz..he's a forumer at bb.com  the only confirmed one was anavar..super low cals+anavar+clen(maybe) might have used T3 too Anavar, a mild oral steroid. Would help retain muscle during such a fast cut and it "supposedly" has fat burning properties. Clenbuterol, beta andrenergic agonist.... Used in the treatment of asthma but also in bb'ing because it raises metabolism. Has anticatabolic properties in certain animals though never proven in humans. T3 is a thyroid hormone, aids fat loss |
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ChinHong86
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Oct 15 2011, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Oct 15 2011, 07:31 PM) example of roid use to cut..some of u guys may have seen this guy around the interwebz..he's a forumer at bb.com the only confirmed one was anavar..super low cals+anavar+clen(maybe) might have used T3 too Anavar, a mild oral steroid. Would help retain muscle during such a fast cut and it "supposedly" has fat burning properties. Clenbuterol, beta andrenergic agonist.... Used in the treatment of asthma but also in bb'ing because it raises metabolism. Has anticatabolic properties in certain animals though never proven in humans. T3 is a thyroid hormone, aids fat loss this one mmddyy or ddmmyy? if ddmmyy looks too impossible to be true |
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pedro
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Oct 15 2011, 08:55 PM
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Its a one month cut!
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Aztec
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Oct 15 2011, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Oct 15 2011, 07:44 PM) this one mmddyy or ddmmyy? if ddmmyy looks too impossible to be true ddmmyy http://celebritymusclesecrets.com/index1.p...p?zoneid=182734all these "before and after" ads are really just BS..giving u guys a lil info on what it actually is..the transformations may be real but the products are NOT that awesome |
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ChinHong86
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Oct 15 2011, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Oct 15 2011, 11:09 PM) ddmmyy http://celebritymusclesecrets.com/index1.p...p?zoneid=182734all these "before and after" ads are really just BS..giving u guys a lil info on what it actually is..the transformations may be real but the products are NOT that awesome damn.... 24 hours cahnges? dun really understand... wat u mean is they are really taking aas and not the products? |
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TSamy89
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Oct 16 2011, 12:57 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Oct 15 2011, 06:31 PM) example of roid use to cut..some of u guys may have seen this guy around the interwebz..he's a forumer at bb.com » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « the only confirmed one was anavar..super low cals+anavar+clen(maybe) might have used T3 too Anavar, a mild oral steroid. Would help retain muscle during such a fast cut and it "supposedly" has fat burning properties. Clenbuterol, beta andrenergic agonist.... Used in the treatment of asthma but also in bb'ing because it raises metabolism. Has anticatabolic properties in certain animals though never proven in humans. T3 is a thyroid hormone, aids fat loss 1month already like that...Sure got side effect from the roid... |
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