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tansling
post Jul 30 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(imshy @ Jul 5 2012, 02:42 PM)
anyone can answer my question? any minimum saving?
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Government never set any minimum. Individual PRS provider can set their own. Public Mutual will set minimum at RM1000.
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post Aug 16 2012, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 21 2012, 10:00 AM)
I have just attended a PRS briefing organized by Pub-Mut for their UTC.

So this is the summary:

i) Low Sales Charge < 3%, no fix rate yet.... waiting for Sec-Com to iron out the detail

ii) Low Mngt Fee < 1.5%, again still waiting for Sec-Com to iron out the details with the PRS service provider.

iii) UTC need to get a seperate lic to sell this scheme. This lic comes under Sec-Com and not FIMM. UTC will need to pay an additional licensing fee to Sec-Com to sell this product.

iv) For the time being, only UTC with 3 years experience and above can sell this scheme, but they must attend a PRS familiarisation course which is a two full day course to be run by the respective PRS provider. The course will also earn the UTC 8 CPD pts.

v) Those who have less than three years experience need to sit for a Sec-Com exam. Details to be out later.

vi) After Jul-2013, all UTC who wishes to promote PRS products need to sit for the exam without exception.

vi) CFP, IFP, RFP, ChFC title holder are exempted from the exam but they must also attend the two full days familiarisation program.

vii) There is a RM 3,000.00 tax relief, contribution is flexible and is not statutuory. Contributor can only get 1/3 of their moonies post 50 y/o and all after 55 y/o. The govt is mulling extending this to 55/60 years old. If the contributor chooses to exit the scheme earlier, there wil be an 8% one time exit fee imposed.

My thoughts:

i) This product will probably fail if they expect UTC to sell it. The commission will be very low and UTC need to pay for a seperate license. So the drive to push for this product will not be there.

ii) Contributors will most like stay away from this as their money will be lock up until they turn 55 y/o.

iii) This scheme is going to fail as the carrot does not match the stick.

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i just attend the briefing and apply for the license. the product going to be in the market near future. most probably by september.
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post Aug 17 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 16 2012, 07:25 PM)
i just attend the briefing and apply for the license. the product going to be in the market near future. most probably by september.
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Kparam77,

what is your thought or opinion on this new development from the perspective of agent and that of a investor?

Thanks,
Xuzen
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post Aug 17 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 17 2012, 12:00 PM)
Kparam77,

what is your thought or opinion on this new development from the perspective of agent and that of a investor?

Thanks,
Xuzen
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as a investor:
- low SC.
- tax relief for 10 yrs.
- core-funds as default choosing the funds to reduce the risk. (good move)
- performance? not sure since no past record. but i believe more or less as UT performance.
- is good for long term investment as reitrement saving.
- personaly believe, the return shud more than epf returns over the time.



agent:
- low SC= low commission sweat.gif sweat.gif

andy_lyy
post Oct 2 2012, 11:02 AM

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last 2 months who those wanna utilise the tax relief while prepare for own retirement fund~ good luck~~
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post Oct 2 2012, 03:26 PM

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Hi all, if you do want to save in PRS, please do contact me via pm. Free advice to public =)
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post Oct 4 2012, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(aikies @ Oct 2 2012, 03:26 PM)
Hi all, if you do want to save in PRS, please do contact me via pm. Free advice to public =)
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hye please pm me...smile.gif
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post Oct 4 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(tom_87 @ Oct 4 2012, 01:25 AM)
hye please pm me...smile.gif
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Hi, please pm me ur number, I will contact u soon =)
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QUOTE(aikies @ Oct 4 2012, 11:08 AM)
Hi, please pm me ur number, I will contact u soon =)
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pmed...smile.gif
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:02 PM

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Private Retirement Scheme

The eight PRS providers that have been approved are:·
AmInvestment Management Sdn Bhd·
American International Assurance Bhd·
CIMB-Principal Asset Management Bhd·
Hwang Investment Management Bhd·
ING Funds Bhd·
Manulife Unit Trust Bhd·
Public Mutual Bhd·
RHB Investment Management Sdn Bhd

Benefits of PRS

-To complement the current pension landscape by:Creating an alternative platform for accumulation of voluntary retirement savings to complement existing mandatory retirement schemes.
-Enhancing options available for individuals in terms of choice of quality providers and funds for their retirement needs.Extending coverage (on voluntary basis) to all segments of the population.
-To add depth to the capital market as a source of long-term funding for various capital market activities and to enhance the role of the investment management industry.
-Wider stimulus effect in contributing to the economic growth and development of Malaysia.

Tax incentives

-As announced in Budget 2012:Tax relief up to RM3,000 per annum will be given for an individual’s contribution to the PRS for the first 10 years from assessment year 2012; and
-Employers will also be given tax deduction on contributions to PRS made on behalf of their employees above the EPF statutory rate up to 19% of the employees’ remuneration.
-A tax exemption is also provided on income received by the funds under the Schemes.


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This post has been edited by MilesAndMore: Oct 11 2012, 02:17 PM
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:25 PM

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maybe you can enlighten us first on the following questions:
1. how does it work?
2. what is special about Private Retirement Scheme?
3. can you do a comparison between unit trust with Private Retirement Scheme?

thanks for your explanation in advanced, i'm sure it will benefits many of us smile.gif

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post Oct 11 2012, 02:19 PM

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Im in PRS training class right now. LOL.
im.thetrader
post Nov 3 2012, 11:40 PM

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well guys, you can ask me any information about PRS and I can tell you where they invest how they do it too. Most probably you can apply for it this month. So if you want or interest in it, you can get it from me too : ) cheers.
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post Nov 4 2012, 01:23 PM

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so Hwang IM was the 1st PRS provider approved by SC.
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post Nov 4 2012, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(lahm @ Nov 4 2012, 01:23 PM)
so Hwang IM was the 1st PRS provider approved by SC.
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Yes I have enrolled with Hwang DBS last Friday......Hope it looks good in term of returns.



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post Nov 5 2012, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Nov 4 2012, 08:08 PM)
Yes I have enrolled with Hwang DBS last Friday......Hope it looks good in term of returns.
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Yes, the fund actually managed by fund manager from former singapore DBS bank fund manager, the performance record is good. Anyway I'm from hwang, do ask me any :)
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:06 PM

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Any prospectus issued by HDBS?

How to open acc? blush.gif


(no "pm me for details" reply pls...) notworthy.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Oct 11 2012, 01:25 PM)
maybe you can enlighten us first on the following questions:
1. how does it work?
2. what is special about Private Retirement Scheme?
3. can you do a comparison between unit trust with Private Retirement Scheme?

thanks for your explanation in advanced, i'm sure it will benefits many of us  smile.gif
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Answer:
1. how does it work?
Similar to Unit Trust. Have minimum 3 funds (conservative, moderate and agressive) and maximum of 10 funds depending on the individual fund asset management and to be aproved by SC.

2. what is special about Private Retirement Scheme?
the money you invested will divide into sub account A (70%) and sub account B (30%). Sub account A cannot withdraw till age 55. Sub account B can withdraw antime, but subject to 8% tas penalty (to counter the tax relief of RM3,000 that you have enjoyed.

3. can you do a comparison between unit trust with Private Retirement Scheme?
The different is PRS get additional tax relief, for retirement purpose (hence not encourage to withdraw), low service charge, employer also can get additional tax relief when contribute to employee, employer can use it as retaining top perfomer's benefits.
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post Nov 6 2012, 11:29 AM

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I believe there's a RM8 annual fee to be charged to investor. How is this RM8 going to be paid to PPA every year? Via deduction of units? Via cash? Via direct debit from our bank account?
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post Nov 6 2012, 03:38 PM

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those above 55 i am sure will invest in this PRS just to get the tax relief

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