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> [Q&A] Trading Safely on Lowyat.net, Concerned about getting conned? Ask here

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post Dec 4 2005, 05:08 PM

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viking, u got any cheap good color+camera phones to sell? i might wanna buy
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post Dec 5 2005, 01:38 AM

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post Dec 22 2005, 01:03 PM

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Hi, guys. Is there anythg polis could do if we'v got their maybank account number (and of cos, IC number too)....Cos I'v also met such ppl online....How come there r such uncivilised person in Malaysia. Thats why E commerce could not grow positively here.....
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post Dec 26 2005, 04:06 AM

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QUOTE(liewss80 @ Dec 22 2005, 01:03 PM)
Hi, guys. Is there anythg polis could do if we'v got their maybank account number (and of cos, IC number too)....Cos I'v also met such ppl online....How come there r such uncivilised person in Malaysia. Thats why E commerce could not grow positively here.....
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basically its not uncivilised person you know..its more to jumping on the irresistible offer ...always as stated by all admins & moderators..do it via cod or deal with ppl thats trusted..
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post Jan 6 2006, 09:46 AM

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if this conman in KK .. sure i hentam dia cukup2 ...
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post Jan 13 2006, 02:55 AM

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updated tis topic~ happy dealing~!! thumbup.gif
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post Jan 14 2006, 02:48 AM

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Guidelines for Safe Online Transaction (IMHO)
- NO Bank-in to newjoiners~!
- If sumting is superb cheap, n seller sez no COD, u guyz noe wut 2 do lar
- if seller ask for deposit i suggest u giv RM50 enuf, coz IMO deposit is for to ensure d seller tat u r serious in d deal n wun ffk, most of d con case will ask u high amount of deposit n giv alot lame reason sez not enuf money take stock tis n tat, DONT B STUPID~!! dun let those ppl hold ur money! RM50 is enuf 2 prove tat u r serious in d deal~
- POSLAJU take 1-2working dayz oni,sat sunday off

Let said i'm digicam seller (from sarawak), then my fren(net fren) from kl want buy digicam from me, wat should i do? need ur opinion n suggestion. At 1st, i think of ask her pay full amount,then i just sent the digicam to her, but after read ur thread, feel what u said quite true. However, if she onli pay rm50 n after get her digicam n din pay t rest, i lost alot. Any suggestion and opinion?..^^

10s in advance.

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IMHO , if she wan2 buy from u, den she hav to trust u, tat's she bank in full amount to u n den u poslaju, or mayb others can suggest other better ways?

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post Jan 18 2006, 08:53 PM

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The main issue is finding the *******. That is not going to be easy. Even if can find IP address, so what? Chances are he was online from an Internet cafe.

And about the pic, of course its not his real face la! Its probably a photo of someone he conned b4 for all you know.

The only other alternative that i can think of is hiring a private investigator. But that will be expensive liao.

And the fact that all the details and his nickname has been publicised so much, it has probably killed the slightest chance of getting him.

I myself personally never deal poslaju or courier or whatever unless i have no choice. And if I have to pay first and wait for stuff to come through the post/courier, i try to limit it RM250.00 in value. I will only go higher if I am dealing with an established reputable company or set up but will still try to check on background first.

Viking, you were already worried about being conned hence you wanted to have a test deal first at a limit of RM500. Why did you break your own rules by paying another RM200? And if you were prepared to lose RM500 knowing full well the risks, why the unusual "upsetness"? It seems to me you are more upset than you should be for a person who knew full well the risks and took it anyway.

One more thing, yes, dealing COD is no doubt the best way. But try to bring a friend along with you. If you can get a few friends to come along, even better. But if there is a group of you, ask your friends to stand or sit a short distance away while you are completing the transaction, otherwise you may end up intimidating a genuine buyer/seller who may be alone. The reason I say to bring along a friend with you is to try to prevent or discourage snatching. If there is snatching, you at least have help to try to catch the fella. At the minimum, you have witness(es) which may be helpful in a police report or identifying the culprit.

Think about the place you are going to meet up too. Meet in a very public place with lotsa pple around. IMHO, find a place where you and the other party can sit down but sit further away from the entrance. That way, not so easy for the culprit to run away if he/she ends up snatching. Be also aware of the possibility that the person may have an accomplice i.e. he/she won't do the snatching him/herself but the accomplice will. Then the other party will just say, "alamak, bad luck for you. But since kena snatch already, no deal." Later, the person and the accomplice will just sell the item snatched and split it among themselves. As a buyer, remember, your money may get snatched too. Always be aware of your surroundings and whats going on around you.

Further, if you are a woman, for goodness sake, never go deal alone for obvious risks. Bring along a guy or some guys.

Lastly, a conman may also be a conWoman. Just because the person is a girl/woman, dun think you won't get cheated. For the guys, dun get distracted if she is really beautiful or sweet looking or sexily dressed. I dun mean to sound sexist here, but its a fact of life. For the girls, just because the other person seems to be such a nice sweet girl, doesn't mean she is not a conwoman.

This post has been edited by jpaq: Jan 18 2006, 09:20 PM
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post Jan 29 2006, 05:29 PM

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Hey, good thread. My condolonces to your lost. Good job in turning the thread to something postive thumbup.gif biggrin.gif Just thought you should add one more thing when checking the phone.

Might wanna check the IMEI number on the box (if sold together). If it's different, there's a possibility that the phone is stolen. Of course the seller could say that the box was lost and thus a different box is used. If that is the case, then it is the buyers discretion that matters. Trust your gut.
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post Jan 30 2006, 02:34 AM

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andyxp joins the league... LYN Justice League....

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post Feb 7 2006, 06:11 PM

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post Feb 19 2006, 09:42 PM

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yo vikingw2k ..
thx for sharing but would like to correct you on sum'n
u said : - Check LCD c got dead pixel anot

actually all lcd has dead pixels (handphones, monitor, bla3)..
it's called the law of pixelation i think.
u cant see the dead pixels with your eyes. u need a special software to detect a dead pixel, unless the dead pixel is too many.

but, there's a new technology where u can built lcd or displays with a dead-pixel free technology.. it's new..

so, if ur phone or monitor or whateva didn't say that it is a dead pixel free, means that it definitely has dead pixel..

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post Apr 8 2006, 11:59 PM

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hi, im new here
sad to listen too all these bad news.
i 1 to join the anti con

No more con. PLZzZ

This post has been edited by KelvinChew81: Apr 8 2006, 11:59 PM
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post Apr 23 2006, 04:46 PM

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first, do not buy anything frm any ppl b4 u see both the man or woman and the things u want to buy. When u see the things n ppl, get their IC number by recording it down after asking him to show u his IC. Bring few frens jz like jpaq said. If he want to run capture him n make sure u punch him at least once b4 handing him to the police biggrin.gif

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post May 11 2006, 12:16 AM

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So? How's the ****sensored**** conman? Any update?
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post May 25 2006, 02:39 PM

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I noticed this thread is pinned, So I'd like to add my 'Tips & Guidelines for Online Trading' here. Hopefully it could helps to cut down on con case.

Since its an online based, of cos there are real and there are fake. There are many ppl trying to make money in unethical way. I've seen many fake buyers/sellers especially from China and Nigeria (and some other countries).

To be safe, be very aware when you try to shop online. A few guidelines here:

1. When the deal is too good to be true, beware. I saw some ppl (normally from CHINA) post new laptops for less than RM100, even a kid knows its a scam! I even saw someone post up the pics of laptop which was taken by ME! (Its my mistake that I did not add on copyright words in my pic, the conman takes this opportunity to download my pics and trying to make buyer believes that they have the item on hand!) Scam reported to Ebay and the seller was deregistered. However, he could simply register a new nick and keep trying to con ppl out there.

2. Purchase only from those who is trustable, with long selling records. Check out the date of feedback left by buyers. If all left in a short term, somethg is fishy.

3. If the online auction/selling portal have I/C verification system (for eg. lelong.com), thats more reliable. IC verified members are normally genuine traders.

4. For expensive items, request for Cash On Delivery which is the safest way to conduct a business, especially on the first time dealing with a stranger. Those who are not sincere or not honest wont dare to meet up with you for the deal.

5. I've been an online seller for quite some time. From my personal experience, 99% of deals from overseas are FAKE. So, its better if you stick to deal with Malaysians or any other nationalities who is IN MALAYSIA. However, I also have successful trades with Singaporean from Singapore. But still have to be very careful.

I would be glad if anyone here could share your online trading experience with me. smile.gif
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post May 26 2006, 12:10 AM

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want to announce and want to F this cheater in LYN

deal with him already but
1)call him no hear its me terus hang up
2)he act like he doesnt know anything
3)he is a cheater
4)he should be banned from LYN

Name : Faiz
msn/email :fable_faiz@hotmail.com
Nickname : fabLeLous
hp number : 0126338687
location : selangor/kl

please do not deal with this guy in any conditions...he is a cheater please be aware..and if anybody knows where is this donkey...please do let me know his location..i will give u reward...thank you..
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post Jun 8 2006, 10:35 AM

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i hope u 'll find and kick his backside for me...
i hate conman...after being cheated a few times...
they all should die...
die
die
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post Jun 9 2006, 02:34 AM

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yo jcheok2.. did i con ur money?

i dont think so. not even a cent right?

so dont complain much lah dude, ppl offerred me 150 more for the phone... what did u expect?

peace.

u dont have to find me, i can PM u my address if u want. come lah.

don't simply call ppl a cheater lah friend... ur not a kid.

This post has been edited by mivecv6: Jun 9 2006, 02:36 AM
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post Jun 24 2006, 01:09 AM

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Newbie question:
What is 'COD' ? See a lot of people using the word 'COD' but I dont know what it means.... sad.gif

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