QUOTE(Maverick2011 @ Jan 7 2012, 10:37 AM)
The most important criteria is strata title and perimeter fencing + guard house. If you have all 3, then it is proper G+G. Whether it is brickwall or mix brickwall or steel fence, it is not the criteria to classify as G+G. Similarly, whether they have CCTV, infrared or ultraviolet, it is not the critieria to classify as G+G.
If you have DMC and individual title, you cannot call it gated and guarded unless those G+G are approved BEFORE the new ruling. This is because DMC without strata title is NOT ENFORCEABLE. Siok sendiri only.
So, the question to ask MS is whether it is strata or individual title.
before the new ruling in 2010, there have been some individual titled w/dmc, single in/out, perimemter fencing w/cctv, gdhse and boomgate. this type is next best to strata w/dmc. true, enforceablity is not 100% but is much better than those w/o dmc. if no dmc, it is just like any taman - kindargartens and old folks home can spring up with little control.
QUOTE(Fazab @ Jan 7 2012, 10:52 AM)
G+G needs strata title, like condo, and the land 'belong' to the resident. They can set up guard house and prevent people from coming in.
Downside is all maintenance also pay your own e.g. throw rubbish, cut grass, change streetlight bulb. Local council no eye see b'cos you don't have to pay assessment rates.
If individual title then can apply to form F+G. Can fence and put guard house. But no power to stop people from coming in b'cos still 'public' land. Also cannot block entry/ exit roads.
If I insist on coming in to play in your taman's field, or take a short cut through, you cannot stop me. All maintenance still under local council, and you pay assessment rates to them.
the problem is the inclarity of comments from the authorities - some say no barriers, no gates allowed, some say depends, etc.. the more comments they make, the more unsure it becomes. case in point - taman tun di - this is one section where oil drums and makeshift gates block both in and out of a public road. some have complained but the man behind it seemed to have the muscle. authorities can't seem to stop it. good for residents inside but this sets a bad example to the rest of non-gng - if fierce enough, you can break any rule or law and get away.
QUOTE(kelvin667 @ Jan 7 2012, 01:06 PM)
Hi UFO bro,
Sorry to say this is not true as per my understanding.
Anything that is not strata title, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987 (seksyen 80) dan Akta Jalan, Parit dan Bangunan 1974 (seksyen 46(1)) forbid any permanent structure that stopped public from accessing to the taman.
Guarded Comunity does not allow any perimeter fencing regardless of material, it is against the law above.
just my 2 cents

yes, that is also my understanding from reading comments by the authorities - for new ones, only stratas can have perimeter fencing and gdhse.
existing ones will be left as they are.
QUOTE(kelvin667 @ Jan 7 2012, 10:54 AM)
Hi UFO,
Thanks for clarifying.
But under the new ruling enforced, all Gated Comunity must be strata title.
And any type of fencing seperating the Non resident and Resident housing is consider gated in regardless of material. Mix wall or steel fence is also considered gated.
Under this new ruling, the fence must be 50% sight that can be viewed from outside. So the new gated community, you will see either below is brick wall and top is grill will be most common or like the photo you put
brick wall with hole that can be seen outside.
But of course, all the exempt all gated community built before sept 2010.
So i was curious when pony mentioned it is individual title and gated community. And I believe the buyer and prospect buyer should know what they bought or considering buying.
It is some ppl hard earn money, so they should know what they buying.
agree - that's the whole point. it's a raw deal for a housebuyer not to be sure what he/she is buying.
security now is crap, so this aspect is a significant part of the value of any house purchase.
developers for new homes should be transparent and upfront, info posted in forums clear. people need to know for sure before signing the bottomline.
we should not accept the attitude "buy first, we'll fix it one way or another" or "dun worry, trust us, we know how".
This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 7 2012, 02:11 PM