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kelvin667
post Jan 6 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(RawangPony @ Jan 6 2012, 05:03 PM)
basicly title is single but you will sign another document along with the S&P that will require you to subscribe to all the G&G facilities and clubhouse facilities which are included in the rm 110 monthly payment.


Added on January 6, 2012, 5:06 pm

not sure about the 16x80 but the 22x80 is now 592k for phase 2 row two. I think they are a few more 22x80 in phase 1 that are t junction facing but cost 552k.
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my question is : under govt new ruling, how can you implement gated community if is individual title, unless MS is special
2nd question, you mentioned another document : sign this document, what document and with who - developer?
if this is not strata, what right developer have after surrender to authority, do they have any say on people title?

3rd, how can sue resident if they don't paid up the rm110 payment

are you sure they are both gated and individual title, if this is true, has the new ruling change?
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post Jan 6 2012, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(RawangPony @ Jan 6 2012, 05:25 PM)
listen friend im telling you what i was told, not drilling down into the details, when i find out the details i will let you know, i visit the sales office quite often.... no need to be so negative.. if you have question direct them at the developers not piss and moan here. thanks.


Added on January 6, 2012, 5:27 pm

as a buyer i would love to meet other buyers for lunch nearby the sales office then maybe we can meet the developers and direct our questions towards them..
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why you mention i was negative when i was merely clarifying for all the buyer here and other forumer
Did I piss you off by merely asking, sorry if i did, but i believe i did not offend you

if you are a genuine buyer, i believe you are also very interested to know the answer and what you have purchase and for prospect they need to know before buying
it is for the benefit of buyer and prospect buyer

this is not detail, buyer need to know what they are buying,
if you are so against ppl commenting on this project, please leave the thread, there nothing i can do.
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post Jan 7 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 7 2012, 09:53 AM)
So long it is individual title, is not g+g.

1) G+G - Brickwall fencing + Proper guard house (Strata Title) i.e condo / service apt, common area maintained by residents
2) F+G - Mix brick wall + steel fence / only steel fence + proper guard house (Individual title + DMC)
3) F+G - Mix brick wall + steel fence / only steel fence + proper guard house (Individual title)
4) Fence - normal wire netting / no proper guard house (Individual title)

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Hi UFO,
Thanks for clarifying.

But under the new ruling enforced, all Gated Comunity must be strata title.
And any type of fencing seperating the Non resident and Resident housing is consider gated in regardless of material. Mix wall or steel fence is also considered gated.
Under this new ruling, the fence must be 50% sight that can be viewed from outside. So the new gated community, you will see either below is brick wall and top is grill will be most common or like the photo you put
brick wall with hole that can be seen outside.

But of course, all the exempt all gated community built before sept 2010.

So i was curious when pony mentioned it is individual title and gated community. And I believe the buyer and prospect buyer should know what they bought or considering buying.
It is some ppl hard earn money, so they should know what they buying.

kelvin667
post Jan 7 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 7 2012, 11:03 AM)
I believe this project is fenced + guarded lah. I checked with the officer in Jabatan Perancangan before, he said G+G wall can / cannot see through fr outside subject to the material used, but non-strata "Taman" fence must be able to see through fr outside regardless of type of material used, I dunno it is true or not.
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Hi UFO bro,

Sorry to say this is not true as per my understanding.
Anything that is not strata title, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987 (seksyen 80) dan Akta Jalan, Parit dan Bangunan 1974 (seksyen 46(1)) forbid any permanent structure that stopped public from accessing to the taman.
Guarded Comunity does not allow any perimeter fencing regardless of material, it is against the law above.

just my 2 cents smile.gif

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post Jan 9 2012, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 7 2012, 01:49 PM)
before the new ruling in 2010, there have been some individual titled w/dmc, single in/out, perimemter fencing w/cctv, gdhse and boomgate. this type is next best to strata w/dmc. true, enforceablity is not 100% but is much better than those w/o dmc. if no dmc, it is just like any taman - kindargartens and old folks home can spring up with little control.

the problem is the inclarity of comments from the authorities - some say no barriers, no gates allowed, some say depends, etc.. the more comments they make, the more unsure it becomes. case in point - taman tun di - this is one section where oil drums and makeshift gates block both in and out of a public road. some have complained but the man behind it seemed to have the muscle. authorities can't seem to stop it. good for residents inside but this sets a bad example to the rest of non-gng - if fierce enough, you can break any rule or law and get away.

yes, that is also my understanding from reading comments by the authorities - for new ones, only stratas can have perimeter fencing and gdhse.
existing ones will be left as they are.

agree - that's the whole point. it's a raw deal for a housebuyer not to be sure what he/she is buying.
security now is crap, so this aspect is a significant part of the value of any house purchase.
developers for new homes should be transparent and upfront, info posted in forums clear. people need to know for sure before signing the bottomline.
we should not accept the attitude "buy first, we'll fix it one way or another" or "dun worry, trust us, we know how".
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so any buyer has clarified this with the dev on this?


Added on January 9, 2012, 6:20 pm
QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 7 2012, 11:03 AM)
I believe this project is fenced + guarded lah. I checked with the officer in Jabatan Perancangan before, he said G+G wall can / cannot see through fr outside subject to the material used, but non-strata "Taman" fence must be able to see through fr outside regardless of type of material used, I dunno it is true or not.
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UFO ET bro,

Since that you are Mresidence@Kinrara SSL3 buyer, can you shed some light on this G+G which is also on individual title
I believe it is the same will apply here.
have any DMC signed and stamped for your unit

Just checked with one of TMS SPA lawyer, he mentioned rawang one DMC stamped shocking.gif

UFO, may be you could shed some light??

This post has been edited by kelvin667: Jan 9 2012, 06:20 PM
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post Jan 13 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(cescmy14 @ Jan 13 2012, 02:15 AM)
Hi I've been following this thread and would like to see more conversation about this project since I bought one for my own stay smile.gif

The salesman informed me that Maybank, CIMB, Hong Leong and PBB are the panel bankers for M Residence. PM me if you need the contact. Cheers
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lyn are full of cybertrooper..haiz shakehead.gif
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post Jan 14 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(twins9 @ Jan 14 2012, 09:19 AM)
brick/anti climb wall, cctvs,  guard house and dmc not considered full g&g?

Only problem with g&g is when they hand over.  If RA not strong enough to collect funds, the gates would just open.
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post Jan 17 2012, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(cescmy14 @ Jan 15 2012, 02:33 AM)
I've got a daft question...what is DMC?
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deed of mutual covenants
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post Aug 15 2012, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(Jigjig @ Aug 14 2012, 08:19 PM)
kelvin2080,

You can refer to pg 17 in the forum.
Under G&G, buyer will only get strata title instead of individual.

There are limited or almost zero G&G project now a day.  M- Residence is considered F&G with DMC. The closest security protection option after G&G.

Under  G&G if not mistaken,  public facilities i.e. rubbish collection / lamp pole / gardening  will fall under the mgmt of RA where F&G will fall under local council / Majlis Bandaran Selayang after handover the project.

For inter-com, may have to really check with M-Residence master architect / sales  if this is inclusive or not.
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i believe this project is individual title and not strata title
hence it is guarded only not the gated and guarded is not along the ruling...anyway if goin to be ok if no one complain or protest on the guard hse
but all yr rubbish collection shall be under MBS

note the difference of strata title act with DMC
can sub sale purchaser be bounded by DMC is also another matter.

rawang is a potential place but is it also a prime area for finger burning if overgear.
recommend for own stay, goreng kaki should sideline this area now

just my 2cents

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