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 [V3] Battlefield 3, Play the BETA While you can!

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post Oct 2 2011, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Oct 2 2011, 03:20 PM)
nope its down again  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Cant do anything then, cause its a beta.

QUOTE(sasaug @ Oct 2 2011, 03:20 PM)
Yeah, I want queue system which I think is one of the best feature in BC2.

1st thing I'm gonna do is play the single player on release day. I know BF3 was meant for MP but why not playing the SP? The last one was pretty ok for me, i dont ask for much =D
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Queue system is important because it allows you to join the game without clicking the Join server button dozens of time to join a server.

Same, SP first then, MP.
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post Oct 2 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(sasaug @ Oct 2 2011, 03:39 PM)
Yup, I want to see how they do the SP this time. Destruction in this case can be whole lot better as lesser entity / objects is in the level so they got room to expand further for better effects compare to MP.

Queue system removes spam which in some weaker machine can take it as a ddos attack if there are lots of people spamming to enter it.
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SP looks solid, IMO, and it does seem more plausible this time round, than its just explosions.

I just have a feeling that destruction gonna be even lesser this time round, due to larger maps and more players as i have not seen a completely destroyable house even in Caspian. The indestructible tunnel in Metro is just disgusting. I like how they make the destruction on buildings, though, with cracks on the concrete and how destroyed facade looked like with bits if steel rebars from the floors sticking out. It is very realistic from engineering point of view, especially the cracks where you see concrete starts to break out to bits, while being hold in place by steel rebars as they are much tougher to break.

Didnt know that spamming Join can be taken as DDoS. sweat.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(victor2212 @ Oct 2 2011, 03:48 PM)
got que system, just that ea toke it off, we had it for like 1 day or 2 in early acess.
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I started playing on the first 24 hours of early access and i didnt get to queue for any servers.

Its just mind boggling to see that they removed so many thing from the beta.
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post Oct 2 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(sasaug @ Oct 2 2011, 03:52 PM)
When TF2 went free to play and there is lack of servers and with Valve poor connecting interface, Agentcy and LYN both servers faces higher spike in network usage and almost forced me to ban some incoming IP for spamming too many request from server.

SP is the place to show how well the engine can do since you got less stuff to worry about. Less thread to be updated, you focus on showing what to the user in front of the monitor rather than worry what all 64 players see.
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True, Valve's decision with F2P in TF2 still make me wonder why. Is Mann Co becoming too profitable till it is pointless to ask people to pay for it. Still till now, i only spend like 7.5USD on the mann co store.

No doubt on SP will be more detailed than MP, but i still like how Caspian looks like. Love the fact that there is a road where i can troll around with a jeep, ie:racing on the road for the fun until some random RPG killed me.
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post Oct 2 2011, 04:28 PM

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In case anyone doesnt know Open Beta is up.
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post Oct 2 2011, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Oct 2 2011, 10:36 PM)

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Gawd i hate BF3 because of all these crap, especially the last one. One shot then im dead.
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post Oct 2 2011, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Deathmax @ Oct 2 2011, 10:51 PM)
Heres more crap.

Not really, don't plan to use Origin whatsoever.
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Gee, thanks.

Here is another one.


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post Oct 2 2011, 11:34 PM

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Turtle glitch.
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Thats another one i really hate. Looks stupid and breaks the immersion. Looks like turtles with no shell. doh.gif

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post Oct 3 2011, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(Hornet @ Oct 3 2011, 12:01 AM)
I'm sorry if this has been posted here before. I'd just like to share with anyone who are concern about the poor state of the game in the beta.
Source

While it doesn't guarantee that everything is fixed, we should be able to expect the major bugs like falling through ground and graphics artifacting to be already ironed out in the final version we'll see at the end of the month.
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I saw that just now, but that doesnt guarantee that the final game will be free from all these problems.
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Oct 3 2011, 12:48 AM)

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No wonder i die in BF3 so often when ever i am not camping, and it always feels so weird to hear just one shot then im death while moving.

It just doesnt make sense.
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Oct 3 2011, 12:40 PM)
Rumors say that the beta is actually way behind... they just wanted to release the beta only.... at the backend its actually more sophisticated...
So everyone can expect something from DICE at release...
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I do think thats true, as Microsoft probably need months to certified the game. I know Microsoft needs 2 to 3 weeks to certify a game's patch, even if you just changed one 0 to 1. So, by common sense, a new game's Beta that will piggy back with their precious backend will need much more time.

So much for efficiency.


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QUOTE(MjMax15 @ Oct 3 2011, 12:52 PM)
i wondered why on E3 preview, these bug doesnt appear while playing.  hmm.gif
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I remember the E3 tank video, the guy who was driving the tank actually steer to the right when the enemy blasted a hole in front of the tank.

Probably because of the falling through the ground problem.

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post Oct 3 2011, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Oct 3 2011, 01:54 PM)
i dont think we should cancel preorder just because the beta isnt up to expectations.
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QUOTE(Cynox @ Oct 3 2011, 02:08 PM)
those who threaten to cancel their pre-order is just whining at this moment, i am sure they will not cancel their order.  tongue.gif   The Caspian map is too promising.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Oct 3 2011, 02:10 PM)
nod.gif  nod.gif just coz of beta like dis den cancel preoder... they will miss the game once they see the final product
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I am canceling my preorder cause,

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The Beta was disappointing but they did fix some issues pretty fast, like the ground problem, the hit reg is slightly better today, sound is better with a lot more cursing. It is getting better, IMO.

Oh Battlelog is down again.

QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Oct 3 2011, 02:54 PM)
Seeing that this is their first time using the ANTS animation system in their game engine, i'm guessing that's where most of the bugs came from. Anyone remember the ridiculous bugs in the FIFA12 demo? Same thing here, but i'm not sure if the final retail FIFA12 release got any serious animation bugs or not. lol  laugh.gif
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FIFA have been using ANT since FIFA 10, i think, so i say its still unacceptable to see the bugs in the FIFA 12 demo because its a marketing tool.

Still they did do quite a revamp on ANT in FIFA 12 as body parts dont go through each other. To the point that EA Sports actually done more in their annual FIFA than CoD. The animation is so smooth till it looks like a real match.

QUOTE(sasaug @ Oct 3 2011, 03:24 PM)
If its an indie developer, these bugs in BETA/Alpha is tolerable. I myself work on few project, normal software and also game. I got no one to try except putting it into real test when your stuff ain't that big enough.

When you got close Beta and people lining up to test your stuff then you need some quality control. From a developer point of view, let other see my work at it's best is the best part after the project. I like people to give comment, good one on my product, not just flaming like this kind of shyt is totally worthless. I put time and effort into it, whether it is paid or free, I feel it is important to give the devs some appreciation.

What I meant was this Beta could be better if they show us a better build. Although you just want to stress test the backend, make sure your clients are happy also at the same time. Indirectly, if they are happy with Beta, then more people will buy and it brings profit to the company. Now some are thinking twice or wait everything to be fixed before considering to purchase or not. You will end up with a slow start and gaining people in slow momentum. That is really not the best way to show the year best FPS game.

Hopefully the official release will give us more. I know they will fix almost everything after upcoming patches but it would be better you can release a game with no more patches or perhaps some tiny one only to update stuff, not fix stuff. Patches are heavy to download too just like BC2 ones.
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I have a feeling that it could be an even older build than Alpha, as Microsoft needs very long certification to release the Beta. BC2 did not get a Beta on 360 last time, if im not or they have a very short one. I am pointing the finger on Microsoft with their stupid XBox LIVE walled garden.

Still, i agree that they need some quality control. The initial release is terrible to the point that i feel bad about DICE. So much effort put in the game but the results were poor.

Its more like people are disappointed with the game, as it was hyped so much and the initial Beta looks more like a failed game than a game i want. Its bad in so many ways.

Metro feels like playing White Pass on BC2, where cover is important, except feels more campy, a lot of spray and pray and slow.Having an APC there will be much better.


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QUOTE(billytong @ Oct 3 2011, 03:25 PM)
to be honest, i first I tot is aimboting, all kinds of hacks that kills meh. turn out to be this lame bug.

if u try join JP server, the problem get even more common than the SG ones. Someone i wonder is aiming for headshot in BF3 really important? or we just spray everything we see.

btw, the moving death body also often get me confuse as a living opponent as well when in long range.
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I think matters a lot now, as some of the hit reg calculations are on the client side.

I am getting whole lot more of instant kill when my connection is laggy.

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post Oct 3 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Deathmax @ Oct 3 2011, 05:00 PM)
Uh huh, how did they fix that?
By disabling terrain deformation. Right.
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Better than nothing, IMO. At least they are fast in implementing changes compare to how slow they are in BC2.
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I hate the dumbshit island. Camping area.
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QUOTE(kintsuchi @ Oct 3 2011, 09:59 PM)
why so many pp cpmplain so many bug suck bla bla bla, this is beta , there never play the beta  i guess .

more worst player that really save there kdr wtf is this COD?
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Because i have never played any Beta that was this broken. Tanks flying away. People suddenly become turtles with no shell. Instant kills despite behind covers.

Usually i dont really care about k/d but due to the instant kill bug, it is getting annoying to get 3/20 with 500 points consistently every game.
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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Oct 3 2011, 10:37 PM)
If the Instant Kill Bug is really to blame then i'm sure just about everyone would get such bad KDR, which is not the case at all. sweat.gif
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I did see some with really good k/r like 20/5.

I am always playing as assault, and when i try to revive people, by sticking my head out a bit, boom. Im dead. If not just camp behind some rocks and try to kill them from far, which did not work at all.

Now, i just get PP2000, UMP or M416 and go front line and gun down people up close.

Feels like CoD. doh.gif
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post Oct 4 2011, 02:19 PM

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I usually just turn off mine when team mates are around.
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QUOTE(Leonhart @ Oct 4 2011, 02:45 PM)
man this game is far!!!! hard. cnt sole in here.me keep dieing alot lol.

i saw some tank in utube vid but cant find any in beta map
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Remember to take cover. smile.gif

Dont charge into the battlefield.
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post Oct 4 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(sasaug @ Oct 4 2011, 03:53 PM)
Relax, this is just Beta. I'm wondering during official release, if Battlelog went down, means I can't play Single Player too? D= What if I'm in middle of a chapter.
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You can still play, if im not wrong.

I was in a game when Battlelog when down, i was playing just fine without kicking me out of the server.
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QUOTE(TAGreptiles @ Oct 4 2011, 06:22 PM)
Quick Match is going kuku as well. Keep sending me to 400ping EU servers. doh.gif
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Quick Match never meant to work in the Beta.

There are a lot of things broken in the Beta. No full destruction, no squad leader, no ultra graphics, no quick match.

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