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post Oct 13 2012, 11:40 AM

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post Oct 13 2012, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Oct 12 2012, 12:54 PM)
I think street photography pics should be in landscape mode unless there is strong reason for portrait. Also the picture ratio should follow some standard, not hantam crop suka hati one. Anybody think I'm nuts? flex.gif  rclxub.gif  shakehead.gif Or most of you agree with me.  thumbup.gif

P/s - if purist sum more, must be film and black and white. Color ... Bleh!! tongue.gif
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IMO there should not be rules to street photography. The picture is just a medium to convey your message, so long your context is strong; who cares what orientation it's in. Hell, many of HCB's photos are out of focus.

I think your statement stems from many of the 'masters' work being in black and white, which sways us to adopting black & white. Compared to now, that was the only avenue that was available to them so it's only logical that they not adopt colour simply because they are used to black & white. I may be clutching at straws here but I don't believe in purist when it comes to any form of photography. Having said that, black & white is something else.
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QUOTE(CasaNova™ @ Oct 13 2012, 09:04 PM)
IMO there should not be rules to street photography. The picture is just a medium to convey your message, so long your context is strong; who cares what orientation it's in. Hell, many of HCB's photos are out of focus.

I think your statement stems from many of the 'masters' work being in black and white, which sways us to adopting black & white. Compared to now, that was the only avenue that was available to them so it's only logical that they not adopt colour simply because they are used to black & white. I may be clutching at straws here but I don't believe in purist when it comes to any form of photography. Having said that, black & white is something else.
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Photography including street photography should not be limited by "rules"
As long as its candid and shot in public areas, that's street photography.
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:23 PM

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post Oct 13 2012, 10:43 PM

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Was it a candid shot?

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Here are some of mine hehe
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[quote=LegendLee,Oct 13 2012, 09:14 PM]
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Photography including street photography should not be limited by "rules"
As long as its candid and shot in public areas, that's street photography.
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I think there's more to it than that. You go out to the park/shopping mall with you wife, take pic of her when she's not looking? That is street? hmm.gif Don't think so. There must be more ... Faces with emotions, anger, sadness, bored ... a story ... a moment in time ... and for me, must have people in it ... and people you don't know. Shoot strangers. Shoot landscape orientation because this is what we see when we go out on the streets. Portrait, aiyah ... got to crick my neck 90 degs. Ok so most of you can now conclude that I'm nuts. doh.gif cry.gif tongue.gif .
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I think this man wants to reenact a few scenes from "The Raid - Redemption" with me. Right hand grab knife (or 5 iron) ... so I cabut!! shocking.gif cry.gif Eye contact!! Fail!!


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I pretend not to notice this HCB wanna be k ... notworthy.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 12:57 PM

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Of course as a genre of photography, it must also convey a message/emotion/situation.
That itself is pretty subjective.

Why must street photography involve people ?
A shot of a still burning cigar in the street of cuba with graffiti everywhere is pretty much street photography as well.

Why must it be people you do not know ? The key is candid rather than strangers. A shot of your friend blending in with the rushour crowd without noticing you qualifies as well.

A simple shot of your wife and everyone else looking worried while she purchase some local products at a night market as a torrential rain suddenly pours pretty much qualifies for street photography

As for landscape and portrait, why must you turn your neck 90 degrees ?
In those 3 above scenarios, does shooting in portrait or landscape matters a lot? Sometimes a shot can be better shown in a portrait position.

If you set too many rules for yourself, you shoot a lot lesser and you limit your creativity.

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Oct 14 2012, 07:36 PM)
Of course as a genre of photography, it must also convey a message/emotion/situation.
That itself is pretty subjective.

Why must street photography involve people ?
A shot of a still burning cigar in the street of cuba with graffiti everywhere is pretty much street photography as well.

Why must it be people you do not know ? The key is candid rather than strangers. A shot of your friend blending in with the rushour crowd without noticing you qualifies as well.

A simple shot of your wife and everyone else looking worried while she purchase some local products at a night market as a torrential rain suddenly pours pretty much qualifies for street photography

As for landscape and portrait, why must you turn your neck 90 degrees ? 
In those 3 above scenarios, does shooting in portrait or landscape matters a lot? Sometimes a shot can be better shown in a portrait position.

If you set too many rules for yourself, you shoot a lot lesser and you limit your creativity.
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just shoot what u like and enjoy the process..

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like the idea of just shooting whatever i like~~
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Oct 14 2012, 07:36 PM)
Of course as a genre of photography, it must also convey a message/emotion/situation.
That itself is pretty subjective.

Why must street photography involve people ?
A shot of a still burning cigar in the street of cuba with graffiti everywhere is pretty much street photography as well.

Why must it be people you do not know ? The key is candid rather than strangers. A shot of your friend blending in with the rushour crowd without noticing you qualifies as well.

A simple shot of your wife and everyone else looking worried while she purchase some local products at a night market as a torrential rain suddenly pours pretty much qualifies for street photography

As for landscape and portrait, why must you turn your neck 90 degrees ? 
In those 3 above scenarios, does shooting in portrait or landscape matters a lot? Sometimes a shot can be better shown in a portrait position.

If you set too many rules for yourself, you shoot a lot lesser and you limit your creativity.
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Why shoot wife, friends, grandpa, grandma not considered street? Normal comments from people new to doing street photography is that they have to overcome the discomfort of shooting strangers up close using 35mm or 50mm lens. No teles, no zooms. You are not more than 4ft to 6ft away from your subject.

You try to catch your subject without them catching you in the act of taking their pics. Most of the time people are ok with their picture being taken. Sometimes they do monkey poses when you are spotted and you feel like an idiot. doh.gif At most, they are annoyed. On the rare occasion, the person might get pissed off and scold you or even chase you.

If you take pics of familiar people, that discomfort level isn't there. You know the people, and you could even pose them. Then what's the point of it all. Like cheating no?

You also notice another "rule" above which is no teles, no zoom. All unwritten of course. You could use a 200mm and snipe from far away and claim it as street, but deep inside you know it ain't so. I didn't make up these rules. There is a pdf somewhere on the net by the Chairman of the Council of Street Photographers America (Chris Weeks) which sets the gold standard for street pics. I kid you not!! (Ok maybe a bit). thumbup.gif


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Your camera, you paid for it, so go ahead shoot whatever you like. If you shoot cats, post it in the pets section please. If you shoot landscapes, kindly post them in the landscapes section. Same with Lenglui, portraits, still life, nature, sports etc etc. thumbup.gif

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post Oct 15 2012, 12:48 AM

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More street shots for me! biggrin.gif Loving it day by day!

This time in color Hehe!

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random shots are different from street photography IMO, I prefer photos that people took time to capture.

and no, I don't think street photography necessarily needs human. Sometimes it can be an interesting subject around the street.

You guys didn't join Scott Kelby Worldwide Photo Walk eh? smile.gif

I'd like to share 5 out of my 38 photos from the Photo Walk.

#1 – I was caught in the rain so I decided to have early lunch. I was sitting right in front of the preparation area.

The sight of the guy eating, and the preparation on-going at the back makes it an interesting frame.

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I did my best to capture the words, exposed the area inside and outside, and also having the full body of the person eating.

#2 – Yet another shot taken when I was caught in the rain. I saw 2 guys preparing an umbrella to cross the road. So I thought they’d be great subjects.

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What’s great was that while they were crossing, another man with umbrella was coming from another direction. So I get 2 subjects going different direction.

It just shows how people weather through the rain, where alone or with a friend.

#3 – This was a store along Jalan Bukit Bintang. I was attracted by the arrangement of goods, and thought focusing on the shopkeeper would be great!

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I got lucky on this shot actually, the shopkeeper was looking down at his phone when I was framing but he looked up just before I pressed my shutter. Lovely!

#4 – Passing by a cobbler, I thought his wait for customers could be an interesting frame. Upon composing, I saw an old man at the background, just across the lane.

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I had to wait for the old man to face the right angle, and wait for him to puff his smoke.

#5 – Probably one of the hardest of the shot so far. I loved the view but I wanted more out of it, I wanted ACTIVITY!

So I stood there for many minutes, waiting for 3 main elements that I hope come together.

First, the monorail. Second, cars. And Third item, the most difficult – passer(s) by with umbrella.

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I’m so glad to be able to have all 3 key elements that manage to enter the frame at the same time!

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FULL SET on my Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/goldfries/set...57631758304437/

*38 pics for the album out of 192 pictures available! That’s ~20% success rate!!! The ~80%, they were duplicate compositions of the 20% (you know, you take a few of a scene, attempting various settings), failed photos (those that are lousy but not deleted), and photos where the composition is of nothing special or interesting. Oh and most of them are on ISO 800 – 1600 range.

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- use compact camera (Canon Powershot G1 X)
- shoot in 1:1 (Square!!!)
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post Oct 15 2012, 12:58 AM

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