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TSsilverong
post Sep 27 2011, 10:42 AM, updated 15y ago

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Hi there,

Just a share story for my renovation which start on last year.

About Sept 2010, I had appointed Kejuruteraan Keris Emas to renovate my house in Puchong.
On Oct and Nov 2010, the work progress is quite fast and I'm quite happy with that. However, start from Dec 2010, the work all stop and hardly to find the contractor name Indra Haliz. Everytime once his pick up my call (sometime I had to use different phone number to call him), he will provide bunch of reasons, e.g. waiting for parts, workers runaway, his vendor still pending and bla bla bla...

On Feb/Mar 2011, I managed to get his family and he come to me said that he will continue the rest of work. Again, he just show few times and only done 90% of my landscaping (this is another story again within him and the guy who doing the landscaping, it is also unhappy), but later on also doesn't show up and pickup my calls. Has contact his family again, his family told that he said there already too much works on my house and lossing so much of $$, should not continue my works. I just $%^$^#^#$% and again his family also totally does not pick up the calls.

On Apr 2011, finally I have made a police report and reported to tribunal court.

Below is the items which haven't complete:
1. Autogate system does not deliver and install.
2. Kitchen table top and cabinet does not deliver and built/setup.
3. 1 toilet does not tiles (originally I didn't plan to change the tiles but he dismantled my tiles due to mistake)
4. all toilet accessories include the toilet bowl does not install and 1 toilet bowl installed in wrong toilet which the size if different.
5. number of downlights install less than per contract agreement stated.
6. Autogate door comes with cheap quality but not follow the design that I choose, but still charge my RM4k+ included the autogate system as per contract.
7. Air con points and some power points does not install.

On May/June 2011, I have appointed new contractor and below is the more finding and fixing:

1. Water leak on extended kitchen, required to redo the waterproof system.
2. Change the lamps in L-box from fluorescent lamp to T5 and redo the wiring.
3. The wiring mostly just loop and loop, some wiring redo only (recently found the sockets on dining room does not provide enough power)
4. Extended kitchen landscaping does not doing well, one side of the wall is just 110 degree but not 90 degree.

Below is the information regards Kejuruteraan Keris Emas and Contractor information:

Forum ID: AzimAdhwa
Kejuruteraan Keris Emas
ROB: SA0056842U
Name: Indra Haliz
Birthday: 21 Sept 1986
H/P: 019-3795792
Phone: 03-33746963
Email: kkerisemas@yahoo.com
Address: LOT 449, JALAN SUNGAI BERTIK, 41100 Klang, Selangor
CIMB Bank Acc: 12210009564057
Maybank Acc: 162544000249

Until now he still haven't return me the advance payment and also the defect works, but I still saw he is active in the forum, so now has wrote this topic and inform all the forumers to beware of this.

Thanks.


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post Sep 27 2011, 11:15 AM

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Bro,

Sorry to hear of your renovation contractor nightmare.
Why don't you put them up in this thread for other to decide for themselves and not get con by these people.

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post Sep 27 2011, 11:26 AM

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Only pay by job done. Initial work maybe 10% to 15% is good to make the ball rolling.
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post Sep 27 2011, 01:21 PM

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sorry to hear that.. how is your court case now? did he show up in the court?
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post Sep 27 2011, 01:53 PM

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bro very sorry on ur predicament. It sucks and is a nightmare..fyi. I believe.he is still quoting for jobs..
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post Sep 27 2011, 03:30 PM

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to kelvyn: thanks bro, i just copy and paste to the Bad Contractors list.

to weikee: yup.. should do it like tht previously.. but since it happens.. let it past

to ssshk: nope.. he didn't.

to @adele: yup.. i saw it and in few forums.. so plan to inform everyone.


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post Sep 27 2011, 03:44 PM

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You mean this one

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1287668/+100
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post Sep 27 2011, 03:47 PM

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bad guy....how many people kena con by him. Guess he prefer ease jobssss


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post Sep 27 2011, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 27 2011, 04:44 PM)
hahaha... He listed himself as Good Contractor woh... That was quite cunning hmm.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 04:05 PM

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What a nightmare! Sorry to hear of your problems, silverong. sad.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 04:34 PM

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asked for quotation from this fella but didn't reply, may be too small for him to cheat on me .....
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post Sep 27 2011, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 27 2011, 03:51 PM)
hahaha... He listed himself as Good Contractor woh... That was quite cunning hmm.gif
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His own measurement mah.
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post Sep 27 2011, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(ahter @ Sep 27 2011, 04:34 PM)
asked for quotation from this fella but didn't reply, may be too small for him to cheat on me .....
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post Sep 27 2011, 04:45 PM

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wow...finally he cant cari makan here any more.
he got come to my house quote me b4. luckly he din come back to me the quotation...

but i may not give my work to him...cos he is look young...around 25-30 only.

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post Sep 27 2011, 04:54 PM

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This is what his PM:

Dec 6 2010, 09:18 PM
now i'm in tmn putra prima at puchong..seksyen 25 completed..

if u want visit my last project at PV12 or Laman Seri Business Centre at Seksyen 13 Shah Alam (office)..

Mar 1 2011, 05:35 AM
a little busy for this month..
actually for April I'm free for others work/renovation..
all settle in March..
normally to get your key and S&P Agreement it takes time..it's ok
just update to me when u are ready
thanks...


Added on September 27, 2011, 4:57 pmSo TS, the tmn putra prima at puchong is refer to your unit?
according to him he complete on DEC 2010.....


Added on September 27, 2011, 5:03 pmi just notice TS put his birthday 21 Sept 1986...means he is just 25 ONLY.

This post has been edited by wrb7878: Sep 27 2011, 05:03 PM
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post Sep 27 2011, 08:47 PM

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Dam I hate con-tractor...it's such bad experience
to house owner...all those headache n Somemore
run away
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post Sep 27 2011, 09:00 PM

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How could track if he rename the ID / email address on here?

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post Sep 27 2011, 09:18 PM

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He could always register another ID, new email address, contact no., etc. However a person's face can never change.
So, putting up his photo will help others.
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 27 2011, 09:18 PM)
He could always register another ID, new email address, contact no., etc. However a person's face can never change.
So, putting up his photo will help others.
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Ask him to put his previous project, he did ask me to visit PV12 condo on his past project.
he come to quote me end up din give me quotation.
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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 27 2011, 11:04 PM)
Ask him to put his previous project, he did ask me to visit PV12 condo on his past project.
he come to quote me end up din give me quotation.
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Probably you did not look like a big "water fish", that's why didn't quote you. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 27 2011, 09:18 PM)
He could always register another ID, new email address, contact no., etc. However a person's face can never change.
So, putting up his photo will help others.
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I like ur idea ahha. Next time before engaging a contractor, just ask him to let u snap a few photos of him. If he is good, can help him to advertise but if bad, he will b on the blacklisted list.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 27 2011, 03:51 PM)
hahaha... He listed himself as Good Contractor woh... That was quite cunning hmm.gif
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kelvyn - he actually meant good in cheating. laugh.gif
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Sorry to hear that...Hope you get ur house reno done soon... smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:49 PM

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Good Contractor or Good Con man ?
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the company name already hinting what he'll do to you...golden knife to cut throat!
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post Sep 28 2011, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Sep 27 2011, 04:54 PM)
This is what his PM:

Dec 6 2010, 09:18 PM
now i'm in tmn putra prima at puchong..seksyen 25 completed..

if u want visit my last project at PV12 or Laman Seri Business Centre at Seksyen 13 Shah Alam (office)..

Mar 1 2011, 05:35 AM
a little busy for this month..
actually for April I'm free for others work/renovation..
all settle in March..
normally to get your key and S&P Agreement it takes time..it's ok
just update to me when u are ready
thanks...


Added on September 27, 2011, 4:57 pmSo TS, the tmn putra prima at puchong is refer to your unit?
according to him he complete on DEC 2010.....


Added on September 27, 2011, 5:03 pmi just notice TS put his birthday 21 Sept 1986...means he is just 25 ONLY.
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hmm.. last year he told me I'm the one person for him in taman putra prima... it should be me... but never complete!!!! I appointed other contractor which quite ok for to continue and fixing my house.


Added on September 28, 2011, 10:19 am
QUOTE(elynny @ Sep 27 2011, 10:43 PM)
Sorry to hear that...Hope you get ur house reno done soon... smile.gif
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reno already completed few months back~ biggrin.gif

targeting a new house and new car right now flex.gif

This post has been edited by silverong: Sep 28 2011, 10:19 AM
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post Sep 28 2011, 10:38 AM

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bro,
mind sharing more information pertaining to procedures and findings from tribunal court?
where to file?
what's the process?
what's the outcome.
thanks.
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post Sep 28 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 28 2011, 10:38 AM)
bro,
mind sharing more information pertaining to procedures and findings from tribunal court?
where to file?
what's the process?
what's the outcome.
thanks.
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U have the same problem?
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post Sep 28 2011, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(silverong @ Sep 28 2011, 10:16 AM)
hmm.. last year he told me I'm the one person for him in taman putra prima... it should be me... but never complete!!!! I appointed other contractor which quite ok for to continue and fixing my house.


Added on September 28, 2011, 10:19 am

reno already completed few months back~  biggrin.gif

targeting a new house and new car right now flex.gif
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Wonder he just ask me to visit PV12 nottaman putra prima...haha
not sure he dare to bring his customer to visit your unit....

actually if he give me the quotation, i may not choose him cos he is not familiar on renovation thing.
i tell him my bathroom will install the water storage tangki and need to install the copper pipe...he NEVER hear abt this thing b4. and then suggest me don't hack the existing tiles...just install on top of it....

and i ask him come on 2nd time for measurement...he din call me
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 27 2011, 11:22 PM)
I like ur idea ahha. Next time before engaging a contractor, just ask him to let u snap a few photos of him. If he is good, can help him to advertise but if bad, he will b on the blacklisted list.
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like this eg.... rclxms.gif

Conman Alert.....
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post Sep 28 2011, 12:12 PM

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kelvyn..hahaha..tx for the link
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 28 2011, 11:27 AM)
U have the same problem?
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always good to know mah.
i have heard tribunal court is super duper effective one.
eg. if they purchase faulty products, also can file.
if services rendered not up to par, also can file

was informed that cases are judge very very fast and as usual, ruling usually favours the victim (provided with sufficient proof lah).

zheilwane, have my goods arrive? wait till my neck also long liao. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 28 2011, 10:38 AM)
bro,
mind sharing more information pertaining to procedures and findings from tribunal court?
where to file?
what's the process?
what's the outcome.
thanks.
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you may go to the link below to log a online case and paid about RM5/RM10 (forgotten)
http://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php...w&id=13&lang=en

will have people to contact you few days later and tell you the process and the date to tribunal court which located at putrajaya for my case.
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QUOTE(duckhole @ Sep 10 2011, 02:43 PM)
beat his mom and burn his house. rude scammers. must wait until people report only they come forward and say sorry.
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sad to heard about this... Thanks for sharing, so new owner can beware in these case...

and finally you nightmare is end! Cheers!

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QUOTE(silverong @ Sep 28 2011, 04:41 PM)
you may go to the link below to log a online case and paid about RM5/RM10 (forgotten)
http://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php...w&id=13&lang=en

will have people to contact you few days later and tell you the process and the date to tribunal court which located at putrajaya for my case.
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mind sharing the outcome of your hearing?
is tribunal realy effective?
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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 29 2011, 09:17 AM)
mind sharing the outcome of your hearing?
is tribunal realy effective?
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hmm.. i didn't go for hearing. Coz that contractor does not sign the document and I can't find him at all. Called to tribunal and they said like that cannot do anything also -.-"!!!


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hi ..what document is it that he should have signed?
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to @Adele: when u logged a request and pay for the fees, they will provide you few set documents, print out and send the copy to the contractor, they must signed it as a evidence that they have acknowledged and required go to court for hearing.
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QUOTE(silverong @ Sep 29 2011, 05:19 PM)
hmm.. i didn't go for hearing. Coz that contractor does not sign the document and I can't find him at all. Called to tribunal and they said like that cannot do anything also -.-"!!!
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If you have original sign document between you and contractor,time, and know people. Another method. Make police report, go to Lawyer with the police report make court case with judgment and they can even freeze their bank account. Is even better if they are using sole propitiatory company.
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QUOTE(silverong @ Sep 30 2011, 11:49 AM)
to @Adele:  when u logged a request and pay for the fees, they will provide you few set documents, print out and send the copy to the contractor, they must signed it as a evidence that they have acknowledged and required go to court for hearing.
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silverong, if that's the case..surely all the ppl that kena sue-d will not sign the document so that they can pretend not to receive it..isnt it?

i thought we could use courier to send until their door step. when they sign for the parcel..isnt it consider evidence of the documents sent? i know PTPTN and some debt collectors use this way to collect back the money. If not..everyone will just say 'didnt receive'
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i have courier it and pos office return back to me after 1 days claims that nobody in the office on few attempts. I also called to tribunal court, the admin told me must have people sign, else you can't get back the claim amount even you go to the hearing.
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Sad to heard about this... thanks for sharing...

hmmm... now my turn unsure.gif how to choose a good contractor... hope won happen to me... all LYN members here any contractor can introduce ah??

 

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