The BT10 is the same class to the E7 yo.
The price difference is huge!
You also need PoE injector because the UCG Fiber's PoE output is not enough for the E7.

There is no direct comparison with the UCG Fiber so I will leave it to you

This post has been edited by kwss: Sep 13 2025, 11:55 AM

If I were you I will stick to UCG Fiber. At least it has 2x SFP+ port and higher performance number.

Now there is no right or wrong way to do things.
If you value wifi performance and want to match the BT10, then you gotta pick E7.

If you are okay with 2x2, then just get the u7-xg.
For the same price as the BT10, you are trading wifi performance with more software features and everything extra in the UCG Fiber.

I mean, you can plug in your home server into the SFP+ LAN port and utilize higher speed internet in the future.

What's best depends on what you really want because in WiFi7, every model from every manufacturer lack something. It's either number of mgig port, 10gig port, chain, radio.

Since you are using Asus, let's just do Asus. You will have zero learning curve.
Unless you are interested to spend the time and also money to learn networking, just stick to what you know best. To a lot of people, it makes no sense to spend money and still need to waste time.

Don't need mesh?
BE-92U. It has a 10gig port and 6ghz wifi, yet enough 2.5gig port for all your other stuff. Since 6ghz + MLO will exceed 2.5gig, I really do not see any reason to buy hardware with a single 10gig port for mesh. This model is only 2x2, the wireless mesh won't be spectacular either.

You use wired backhaul for mesh?
BT10. It has 2x 10gig port. One for internet, another for mesh node. You can daisy chain a third mesh node for 3 pack.
The downside is that there isn't really any extra mgig port to connect anything. This device is designed purely for wireless use case.

You use a wireless backhaul for mesh?
BQ16. It has an additional 5ghz band for backhaul. Don't bother with this model if you use a cable for backhaul since home environment will never have high enough endpoint density to make use of the dual 5ghz radio.
Downside is also no extra mgig port to connect anything. I mean if you use wireless backhaul then you can connect one 10gig to main node + another 10gig to mesh node. But with this setup, you ain't getting the lowest possible latency and maximum possible bandwidth.

As you can see, the best product don't exist, each model has trade off.

Now on to Ubiquiti. For you to use their product, you must also use a UCG or deploy your own Unifi OS Server, which means you must already have a home server.

From here onwards, you need to buy PoE switch. For 10gig 60W PoE, they came with a lot of ports. If you have many PoE device, then it's worth it, else it's a lot of wasted PoE port. Also the main use case for mgig PoE is only AP. So you are also throwing a lot of money into 10gig ports and just run them as 1gig.

However, if money is not a problem, then go for it. If you purely love aesthetic, this is okay too. Their rack + accessories + ether lighting looks great. Purely aesthetic point of view, not technical.

For their AP, I will be upfront. I will never buy another Ubiquiti AP after using one. YMMV.

If your wifi endpoint is mostly homogeneous, meaning they are all Intel laptop and your phones are all Qualcomm SoC, you will be fine.

If you have a lot of unknown endpoint with unknown wifi chip, like IoT heavy environment, better avoid Ubiquiti wifi.

From this alone you can see why many enterprise don't have problem with Ubiquiti. They are mostly Intel laptop and nothing else.

It doesn't means Ubiquiti is not a shitty product. I am just saying it works fine in a homogeneous environment.

Mikrotik wifi? Nah...

Bestest ever wifi7 AP? Perhaps a Ruckus with Unleashed. Easy to setup, super great performance, no external controller required, no licensing fee.
But the price.... $$$$
You also need a 60W PoE mgig switch... $$$$

This post has been edited by kwss: Sep 17 2025, 05:23 AM

Easily 3gig using 2x2 phone and 5gig for 4x4 endpoint. Skyworth ONR will never reach those speed.

Distance and speed test with phone:


Backhaul speedtest which is basically 4x4 with MLO:


It's due to the speed of wifi 7, I feel deployment without 5gig port is not worth it. All deployment without 5gig port just stick to wifi6.

This post has been edited by kwss: Sep 17 2025, 07:38 PM

MLO is what makes wifi7 so much faster than 6 / 6e. Why you don't want MLO? You can have MLO and still roam between AP. They are totally different thing and not related to each other.

Your graph says it all, Ubiquiti AP is shitty. End of story.

All devices from every manufacturer get hacked one way or another. It's not logical to avoid Asus simply because they appear on the news. They actually have long firmware lifecycle which helps in security. You as the user must always keep everything updated and not expose the WebUi / SSH / telnet to the Internet.

I mean you can take a chance with TP-Link firmware lifecycle. Maybe they are better, maybe not. I am judging firmware lifecycle of manufacturer based on their history. The future remains a mystery.

I am sure you already know which Omada AP you want. Your list is already their top tier stuff.
If you are going for their ceiling AP, get their 10gig PoE switch too. It's actually the cheapest 10g PoE switch in the world right now. For that features, it's competing with Cisco 1300 (C1300-16XTS), priced about the same but have more ports + PoE.

You can get the rb5009 and connect the SFP+ port into your Omada switch. Or LACP those 1gig port, since you suddenly have so many ports in your switch.

The said switch:
SX3832MPP
https://www.omadanetworks.com/my/business-n...-max/sx3832mpp/

The rb5009 has a 2.5g port. Plug that into your switch. If you need higher speed and don't want to LACP, plug the ONT stick into your switch and do ROAS (Router on a stick) setup. It will work full duplex up to 5g and half duplex all the way to 10g.

Go to the product download page and there's a drop-down to select hardware revision. EAP783 has v1 and v1.60.

Do not buy the OC200, it has been abandoned. Get the OC220 instead.

I don't know what switch to recommend you. You need to know your AP power draw, then the number of AP, plus any other PoE device. Add them all up +20% extra to be safe.
Every small 10g PoE switch out there has limited power, so this is your homework.

Omada AP support 802.11k/v/r. Your endpoint also need to support those standard to roam.

None of the small switch can do it.
40Wx5x1.2 = 240W of pure PoE output.

Okay, the Cisco C9200CX-8UXG-2X can do the power but it has only 4x 10g port. The rest are 1g port.

The price for that Cisco, you better get the big Omada switch I recommend earlier. I don't think you will utilize even 20% features of this Cisco switch.

If I'm buying a switch, I will buy this, simply because it can do NetFlow, BGP and PTP. Plus it's fanless.

OC300 don't necessary give you future-proofing. TP-Link support is based on launch date. OC220 is newer.
OC300 won't give you additional feature over OC220.


EDIT:
Maybe Ubiquiti Pro XG 10 PoE.
But now you need 2 controllers. One for Omada, one for Ubiquiti. At USD700, the cost per port is quite premium for the feature.

Ubiquiti L3 switch is also all lies, they are actually L2.

This post has been edited by kwss: Sep 18 2025, 10:36 PM

Doing 10g wirespeed is not easy yo. Even 2.5g wirespeed switch is expensive.

Those el-cheapo 2.5g switch actually cannot do wirespeed. They just daisy chain a few chips together. You do get what you pay for.
You can see the teardown:


If traffic pattern is mostly North-South, then just wait until you have that Internet speed to upgrade.
- or -
Just buy the Asus and call it a day. You are getting the promised WiFi 7 improvement. No controller, no switch, no hassle.
Not exactly cheap but they do deliver.

tng55 Why you need 5 AP?
If you can live with 4 AP, then you can use this switch:
https://www.omadanetworks.com/us/business-n...-max/sx3206hpp/

One OC220, all in.

If you go with BT10, the CRS304 can definitely act as backhaul switch. You can retire your ccr1009 after that since the BT10 is also a router.
You can also backhaul your ccr1009 to some faraway place with ROAS setup since you have a switch now.

Many of Ubiquiti marketing rub me the wrong way. The switch is one. Then the Express 7 which they market as 10g but all it has is just a port that sync at 10g but only works at 2.5g.
It really feels like scam.

There's nothing wrong with saying your switch is L2, everyone sells L2 switch. A lot of people only need L2 switch.

Even Cisco used to license L3 separately with their LAN Base SKU. Good thing now L3 is included in all licensing.

Then their AP... They are very fast in term of time to market. What's more when they always call themselves Enterprise. Until you spend the money and use it.

Omada don't call themselves Enterprise, just Business. Even the home stuff under Deco branding works better. It's not exaggerating when I call their stuff shitty.

AFC is only mandatory for outdoor or high power AP. Country like Malaysia only have access to half the FCC spectrum so AFC don't apply to us. Plus I don't think we use the same spectrum as US military.
AFC is also a privacy mess. Your AP need to send GPS location to a central server.

For MLO, it kind of feels like channel sounding and beamforming. Until today they still don't quite work after so many version. You don't even hear manufacturer talk about it now.
I guess I can put MIMO inside this category as well.

WiFi Alliance is also another "scammer" with lots of false advertising. Remember all the Time Sensitive Networking for Industry 4.0? 404 Not Found already. Same boat as 3GPP 🤡

16 stream? Just hot air.

To elaborate more on MLO problem: Out of order packet.
It's impossible to guarantee packet transmitted in sequence over different band will also arrive in sequence.

It's the same as using ECMP routing. If all the fiber cable are of the same length, it works. If they are not, the network fall apart due to out of order packet sequence.

So to really make it work, perhaps MLO need to follow LACP and hash the 5-tuples. Meaning you need multiple stream to use it.

Maybe WiFi 7 Wave 2. Maybe WiFi 8. Maybe everyone think it's too difficult and just try to forget about it like channel sounding.

But I feel copying the LACP method will work.

Check out this Cisco blog post about different MLO mode.
MLO support in WiFi endpoint is optional.

For AP, only one mode is mandatory while the rest is optional.

This didn't dive into packet reordering problem yet.

https://blogs.cisco.com/networking/wi-fi-7s...-to-performance

I thought only s25 have wifi7? I check with gsm arena spec and it seems that way too.

Regarding range on 6ghz, you need to have denser AP deployment, which also means giving up 320mhz channel width if you are serious in avoiding co-channel interference.

The whole point of not requiring AFC is really... Low power.

How big is your place? 1 AP per floor is sufficient unless your place is really "long" instead of square.

If we strictly follow what is being described by the Cisco blog, device can claim to be WiFi 7 but not do MLO.

Blame WiFi Alliance for allowing all kinds of "false advertisement". In fact they themselves sell a lot of hot air.

In software development, they will call it rc when there's no more known high priority bug after all planned features are done.
But as you know no software is bug free.
Even when you fix a bug, you might cause a regression aka create another bug in the process of fixing one bug.
v7.20 is mainly adding bgp features that's missing.
You can just install it since you don't use bgp.

I have no idea. That Cisco blog also use FastConnect 7800 as endpoint.

But GSM arena said no wifi 7. I simply Google and it seems Samsung disable them on purpose to make them feature parity with Exynos SKU? Until S25 where it is there for all.

Then I also found for TP-Link, they really cannot do roaming when using MLO. So tng55 is not making shit up.

No such limitation for Cisco and Arista AP, at least based on what I found.

WiFi is always a mess...

With that daisy chain, 10g full duplex is the max you can get out of all ports before congestion hits.
This statement is true regardless of how many ports the switch has, as long as they use this kind of daisy chain with this chip.

Your usage is still below that hence no problem.

In your pppoe client, set:
Max MTU 1500
Max MRU 1500
Delete Keepalive Timeout

I am not sure about winbox as I don't use it.

Is your MRU = 1500 and MTU = 1492 now?

Actually all connections with MTU less than 1500 requires special handling. In Mikrotik, the default firewall rule perform MSS Clamping, but it only works for TCP connections.
Later on the PPPoE profile provided this without firewall rules.

By right when your MRU is 1500, half your problem is gone.

Wireguard overhead is 80 bytes. So you must recalculate it. Set it to 1492 - 80 = 1412.
The default WG MTU is wrong because it is based on full 1500 bytes packet.

If you use WG on mobile network, it is actually 1400 - 80 = 1320.
So set 1320 as MTU in wireguard app on devices using mobile network.
You can keep the 1412 in Mikrotik.

Also go to your IPv6 > ND. Set MTU 1492 there.

It is only 60 bytes if you exclusively use IPv4.
There is an extra 20 bytes for IPv6 inside WG.

1412 is the correct size. 1420 packet is too big and cannot fit smaller pipe.
1420 is only valid if TM don't use PPPoE.