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 US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter

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post Nov 1 2011, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Nov 1 2011, 05:19 PM)
seems like today will be a red red day? still hoping LVS to hit USD 50 >.<
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It was close enough on last Friday: 49.44..
So, if you didn't sell, then just have to wait for the next cycle.

Now, look for buying opportunity again if this dips to the 20MA (44) or lower part of the bollinger band (41).

I've unloaded some, now riding it down with PUTs.. 5th wave cycle for me.
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QUOTE(simonc @ Nov 1 2011, 08:51 PM)
We having extended Halloween? tongue.gif
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Halloween is whole week for me.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(simonc @ Nov 1 2011, 09:46 PM)
A scary man is a man who has nothing to lose smile.gif
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Yes indeed. The Greeks got nothing, so there's nothing really to lose for them.
Walk away, is all they care. If the banks go down, contagion will be all over.


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I think FOMC will not change anything. Traders are watching any news from Greece.
I'm covering premarket... watching 1215-1230 area tonight.

Bulls are going to call for earlier reinforcement because of anticipation that Greece will go thru with acceptance rather than rejection by Friday. Only if market can continue to dip below that 1211..bears will gain more power.

I'm still long on LVS with some hedging on the downside. I took off the puts yesterday.
During the two days pull back downturn, LVS got very good support.
I will continue to play this short term range: 44-50


Added on November 2, 2011, 10:57 pmBuy signal in... got that bounce back up. MACD point upwards.
Going for 1250 area. Let see what happens.

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Nov 2 2011, 11:29 PM)
Sold my LVS finally at $48.99
Wait for next round to re-enter so sideline at the moment.
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Smart move! LVS near $50.. as always.. lots of supply there.
I'm still long, sold some today, and I'll buy back to fill that hole if it pulls back a few dollars.



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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Nov 3 2011, 12:30 AM)
Something is terribly wrong with X lately. Infact, all the steel industry in US are in bear mode this year.
AKS, NUE, STLD, etc..


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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 3 2011, 03:08 AM)
sp500 continues shooting up. heading 1240 already! resistance yet?  laugh.gif
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It broke my resistance at 1230.. so, I'm long from there. We hit 1243 as first resistance overnight.
Next up will be 1250-1253..kinda choppy but I think we'll grind up.

Everything is hanging upon Greece this Friday and also the US jobs report too.
So, watch for that market moving event this Friday. nod.gif

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Folks, place your bets..before Friday. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 3 2011, 07:06 PM)
You're on? Which side?  smile.gif
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Both sides.. as long as the market moves.. I gain.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 3 2011, 07:07 PM)
Wow, respect  notworthy.gif
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But, if the market stays still.. I will lose 'coz my option will burn. sweat.gif
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Here's my thinking.. between now and end of the year, US market wants to go up but it is being
dragged by the crisis in Europe. The bounce up from 1075 to 1290 was so quick and powerful that it
has left a lot of money managers scrambling to chase this up again on pull back. The pull back is almost as severe and quick on Monday and Tuesday and it just took the bears two days to pull back to 32.8% retracement level.
Two steps forward, one step back. But, the bias now is upside.

US corporates will continue to do business and majority of them as heavily invested in other emerging countries like Asia and Latin America and very little in that 'fug' up country in Europe and other PIIGs nations.

Big factor that will hinder US growth will still be US jobs, US debt, consumer spending/sentiments and US Fed monetary policy. US Fed is not showing any signs of tightening, continue the loosen monetary policy.. Uncle Ben got its finger on the printing machines. Therefore, US macro data matters more here. If we get slightly better than expected jobs report month over month, US market will completely forget about the stinking Europe.

Nov-Jan: Most of time, bulls usually dominate during this time, so I think history will repeat itself here. Not to say we won't get pullback or correction, it will so I'm watching for those 'overbought' conditions and ramps up when Puts are cheap as hedge to downside.

Good luck to all. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(honglun @ Nov 3 2011, 10:40 PM)
Hm...anyone have any idea how to short Euro? Particularly French Banks? Checked our their ADRs and some ETFs. Mostly are low volume stuff. Anything with some recognizable volume?
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Check out ticker: EUO

Be aware, this is a leverage inverse ETF.


Added on November 8, 2011, 8:46 pmThoughts for SP500 for Nov 7th to Nov 11th

SP500 - Support at 1250, Resistance at 1298. Approx. 50 pts range play.
LVS: Support 45.50 Resistance: 49.50, approx $4 play.

If you're bull, just buy as close to support.
If you're bear, just short as close to resistance.

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Nov 9 2011, 05:44 PM)
tonight seems like DJ going to be red sad.gif
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Loving this volatility.. $VIX goes back above 30. biggrin.gif

Short term trade:
Top part now: 1280 (sell area)
Bottom at: 1225 (buy area)



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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 10 2011, 09:02 AM)
Still not touch financials with a 20 footer.........

HBC $39.99  -$3.81  -8.7%  OUCH!   sweat.gif
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Prophet:
Agree with you. The financials still got no love despite the rally from SP 1075.
Most likely it is because of Europe. It is the most sector hated now.

I'm watching for commodities like miners and oil to rally up. Oil seems to be moving first.
The copper, gold and silver miners have yet to make their move.




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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 11 2011, 08:04 AM)
This thread is in semi retirement stage.
Too bearish or most people lost interest in Dow ?
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I think those who were playing the Dow were making too much money or they got smacked down badly
and hiding in the bunker now. I'm betting the latter.

The volatility shook off a lot of people who were in the market since August. Now, Europe trumps everything.

Dow recovers some but still hasn't safely cross above that 200MA line. So, basically any less than stellar news will definitely take us back to prior year price.

Nevertheless, I'm still here.

Let's roll. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(simonc @ Nov 11 2011, 08:32 AM)
Keep it rolling biggrin.gif
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I'm betting more south side move this week than north side.

What's your bet? whistling.gif


Added on November 11, 2011, 8:48 am
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 11 2011, 08:38 AM)
Not just Euro banks.........dont bet that U.S banks are not affected!
We just dont know how involved are they is debt swaps and what not? They sure like those
worthless vehicles...anything to make a dollar more.
Look at HSBC, still badly affected by U.S housing after all these yaers and its not stopping...the debtors
are not paying!  How to pay when you dont have jobs? 
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/hsb...rofit-rises-66/
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Yes.. I know. But, the US banks aren't hemorrhaging cash anymore but their earnings aren't used to be.
It may take some years for them to go back to the previous valuation.

BAC, C, etc.. Even JPM, one of the strongest got smacked down pretty bad.








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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 11 2011, 08:52 AM)
Maybe not the investment bankers as they are usually the crooked lot........but whatta abiut
commercial banks

Remember what The HSBC head mentioned:

“there is an increasing number of people who stopped paying us,”

"Delinquency rates on the loans — those with missed payments of 360 days or more — were the highest since the last quarter of 2009, "

“Customers realized that if they stop paying, there’s very little we or other banks can do,” Mr. Mackay said. “This is an emerging trend. We monitor it very closely.”

AND at the same time, they are cutting jobs.........meaning vicious circle......the bad debtors wil start to go up...
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The commercial banks with house loans to those people with less than stellar credit are definitely paying the price now.
I don't think they will stop the bleeding until home price stablise and start to gain again.

Now the average US homes are cheaper than KL (for comparable sq footage).
I'm thinking of buying one. whistling.gif



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QUOTE(machoman_13 @ Nov 11 2011, 04:23 PM)
US stock market still the "Dai Lou" in the world and it always impact the whole world market. To have a consolidate view on US, UK, AU, Canada, Singapore, Malaysia share market.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Whoa.. sorry not going to click that link. If you want, feel free to contribute here. wink.gif


Added on November 11, 2011, 8:50 pm
QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Nov 11 2011, 10:44 AM)
WTF do u mean by hiding in bunker & this thread is in semi retirement stage?
we here r no farking daytraders, we r here for the long term to earn the monkey, not the peanuts  brows.gif
I won't be here much, as sky1809 alwiz says, there is only 1 forumer in this thread  laugh.gif 

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Not sure about the "we" part. I think you may speaking for yourself.
Not that I don't believe in long term investing but "long" is relative nowadays.

I'm of a believer that the days of the BUY and HOLD have change and may not be applicable anymore.

You really have to be very good stock picker or able to create a strong portfolio to withstand
the dynamics of the market. I've seen good companies been taken the cleaners just because of market conditions and investors basically end up FLAT even after 10 years.

Oh well, to each its own. laugh.gif


Added on November 11, 2011, 8:56 pm
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 11 2011, 08:41 PM)
I bet tonight Dow would be up icon_rolleyes.gif
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You could be right.. 'coz futures are pointing north but we ended up the week down anyway.

But, I'll be keeping an eye on on that SP 1050-1055 line, going to look for opportunity to re-short later.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 11 2011, 08:58 PM)
Ya exactly .

I do not believe in long term either.

I had two stock hit 100% last month ( bought in the same month ) and I was too happy to take profit.

Some I took at 20% profit , ok lah in the current trend.

Moreover, we cannot short sell   short sell in Bolehland.
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As for that part.. I believe they do allow that as part of that "regulated" process.
But, it seems pretty strict and only on certain counters. All of them seems too strong
and no volume to allow short sellers to take advantage of it.

To successful short anything, one have to take advantage of the down market when it happens and hit on
the bloated and high beta ones.

For example: This recent parabolic rise for HARVEST is good candidate. This looks like an awesome bull trapper.
So many people chasing this POS.

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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Nov 11 2011, 09:11 PM)
U mean 1250 -1255 right? laugh.gif
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Oh yeah.. my bad. Typo.
But, I wish we're at 1050-1055. This is a tremendous buying opportunity. drool.gif

Anyway, the next two weeks will be critical. If SP500 can't break above that 200MA (1275-1280),
it will be interesting to see if market can re-test Oct 4th low area (1075).



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