I have been scammed yesterday.

The seller asked me pay him by Western Union, then he asked me to give him mtcn number so that he can check the payment status. After 30 minutes, the payment status show "picked up". Then he said he didn't receive the payment. Then I start worry so I google search "western union scam" and I found this http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/saf...union-scam.html and this http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...tern+union+scam.

Although I have bean cheated rm980 only, but I am still angry

Is there any way to find him out by his gmail account? Any IT professor can help to find him out? If no way to find him out, then what I can say is IT professor also has the weakness, LOL.

I did email western union service center :
"Hello, I did transfer RM980 from malaysia a seller in uk, I gave the mtcn number, my 1st name and last name to the seller to check the status.
After 30 minutes, the status shows already picked up, but seller didn't receive the money, so the seller won't post out the products to me.
Do you have CCTV to see the guy who picked up the money that i sent? Please do send me the picture of his face, I need to take action to get back my money.
I have attached the two transaction receipts in this email for reference. Thank you".

But until now I didn't receive any reply from western union service center yet.

I want to find out the scammer, is there any way to find him out? I try to check his ip address, his ip is from Philippine, so I think he is using proxy to do the trick. He know many things about Malaysia when I chatting with him on Yahoo messenger, so I doubt he is in Malaysia. I google search his email address ( expressphonedelivery@gmail.com ) and I just realize he was trying to scam so many people around the internet, whenever apple/samsung/asus/toshiba show new products on website, he went to send comment onto the webpage with his price, asking people buy the new products from him can get cheaper price.

There are so many innocent people who still don't know this western union scam trick. How to tell everyone to be aware of this scam? I personally think Western Union website and bank websites must show the following sentence on all "transfer payment" page so that people won't get scammed :
"important!! Do not send money to people u don't know, it might be scam!! More info at here "

This post has been edited by mich3113: Sep 6 2011, 04:09 PM

i think u can create a dispute topic at:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showforum=128

instead open here

You should "I google search his email address ( expressphonedelivery@gmail.com ) and I just realize he was trying to scam so many people around the internet"

before you send the money. and not after.

Cannot, dispute topic has rule : 3) This board is for LYN Trade Zone disputes only. Do not post mudah, lelong, or ebay disputes here. !!!!

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Added on September 6, 2011, 10:11 amWhat? it makes sense he trying to get more customers to buy products from him, I though he is so hardworking to find customers around the internet. Nothing wrong. Actually I did verify him before I paid him. To verify the seller is real or not, just ask him to do the 3 things : webcam show ready stocks, his advertisement account which has many good comments from buyers, recent shipping tracking numbers.

He fail to do the 3 things and he tried to offer me better solution, he said he will ship the products before i pay, so i agree since this solution solve my worry already. Then he said he need his boss to approve the shipment, so need me to create fake payment to cheat his boss, after his boss see, i can cancel the payment. He ask me just use western union to pay him by writing other name for receiver, don't write his name so that he cannot withdraw out the money. He cheated me that western union will require his ic in order to widthdraw out the money. If his IC is not match to the the name I wrote (receiver's name), then he can't withdraw money. I never know as long as he got mtcn, he can withdraw out money without using ic / name.

This post has been edited by mich3113: Sep 6 2011, 10:38 AM

does this guy has a website where he sell stuff? i find that western union is very insecure be cos i have also been cheated before but the amount is quite small, the other party just need mctn and he can withdraw

He doesn't have any website, he just like to comment on those expensive products websites something like : "RM3000 is best price I can give u, anyone insterested to buy it please contact my email ( expressphonedelivery@gmail.com )". You can google search his email address to see his comments on some websites.

How did I know him? He found me on facebook, he add me as fren in facebook, then post onto my facebook wall "brother, can we discuss something? Do u have yahoo messenger or msn messenegr"? His facebook has many phones pictures and the pictures tagged many people. Seem he is trying to scam many facebook users too.

Yes, western union is insecure, scammer simply say "can u give me the mtcn so that i can check the payment status on Western Union Tracking payment page"? Many scammers cheat buyers that he can't withdraw the money if his identity card is not match to the receiver's name, but actually he can withdraw the money as long as he has the mtcn.

This post has been edited by mich3113: Sep 6 2011, 10:34 AM

take it as a somewhat expensive life lesson lor. if he's in malaysia then you might be able to do something, but since he's overseas then you're screwed.

thanks TS for highlighting this issue. will take note of that.

Next time try Paypal. You will guarantee get a refund if you don't receive your item. Or try Escrow which works like Alipay.

he tried to scam me rm10k, lucky my frens refused to lent me the money, I was angry my frens are helpless, but now I think back, I should thanks my frens. Haha.

If he is in Malaysia, how can i find him? He is trying to scam me today again, he said he didn't scam my money, and he show me the shipping tracking number, i guess he just post empty box to me. He said he can pay rm980 to me for my lost if I give him access to my lelong.com.my and ebay.com.my account. I replied him : "haha, u think i am stupid? u just want to get my customers' email from my lelong and ebay account then scam them by using my account. I will never trust u again, just stop it!". He don't afraid of me although I already found out he is a scammer. He still chat with me every hours. Solute him.

This post has been edited by mich3113: Sep 6 2011, 04:08 PM

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This post has been edited by wanakev2: Sep 6 2011, 11:22 PM

Mostly i am using WU just to transfer money to my GF
For transaction buying/selling, i am using paypal.
But, my paypal now limited access..damn

Yes I feel the pain, Paypal tends to limit your account if your transactions are non-eBay related. What's the rationale behind this, no body knows.

You can hack his account if he is still chatting with you now.

I am an IT person. You can hack the scammer's bank account and facebook account actually, hopefully his bank account and fb account have the infomation for you to find him out.

You can follow the instruction on this page to hack his accounts. Normally how it works is... You can use Win Spy software to create a power-point file with your email address (so the file can email u the username and password of the scammer's bank account/fb account).

Then you send the power-point file to the scammer by email. If the scammer download and save the file on his computer, the functions of the power-point file are are :
1) The power-point file can detect every key-strokes on his keyboard when he is typing characters on the text box of username and password on all kind of websites.

2) The power-point file will email his username and password to you.

After got his username password, u can login his account to check his information such as full name and house address.

PS : u must find a very good excuse to trick him download the file from ue email, such as :
1) survey qustions.
2) business proposal.
3) intro new hot products.

This post has been edited by zac1987: Oct 9 2011, 01:50 PM

WOW!He emailed me on my primary email address and i don't know how the heck he find my facebook and suddenly chat with me.He is scammer,poor all the victim!And he has scammed a man and i have pm him about this on his fb. OMG,poor him.And he also tries to scam me! Lucky me to google expressphonedelivery

This post has been edited by amanda1231: Nov 7 2011, 01:18 PM

Luckily u found this post here before u make payment to the scammer

do another transaction and put a fake mtcn code in the power point so that he will open and view the code..

then u can hack him d

Good idea and nice trick!

You should report to the site, report to police and then send the police report to western union malaysia office as a record.

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Added on November 8, 2011, 5:19 pmwill email service provider find out about that powerpoint and put you as alert?

This post has been edited by g_kw2: Nov 8 2011, 05:19 PM

Do you have AP permit to import Mobile Phone into Malaysia? Even if this is not a scam. you will have to pay a hefty fee for the Permit. Please check before jumping.
Good thing no cheap, cheap thing no good. Remember this and you will go a long way in life

wow, i am seriously baffled that still got people don't know, WESTERN UNION /E-GOLD = 1000000% SCAM FROM NIGERIAN.

if they never put an option to accept payment from paypal, instead wanted to use western union, e-gold, what gold bla bla bla, you can automatically categorize him as 100% scammer.

I know this because i have been trading internationally since year 1999.

Western Union acts as one of the way to let scammers perform scam more easily.

I think authorities should ban them from having services here.

In other countries, you do not have to give ID or any documents to proof you are the owner.

As long as you give the correct MTCN, sender name etc, you will get the money.

f***k..i juz gt cheared rm12k...

Cheated by the same person expressphonedelivery@gmail.com ?

yea.....he till now still find me and ask me to pay them shipping charges then will reship to me...

Probably one of these Nigerians roaming in Cyberjaya. Fake Limkokwing students on student pass.

i am lucky that i found this thread before i pay him the money ...lol

Hello all Datuk, Lou ban, Tauke, Sifu sekalian

I know this is an old topic but want to know more and try to avoid Western Union scam by Alibaba. I have been reading a couple of post and websites.

I am at the crossroad of making the purchase from a supplier in Alibaba. Like some if not many of us, the supplier asked for Western Union payment. If the only method is by Western Union, how do I protect myself by not getting scam? They also asked for MTCN number which I am not sure if it is okay to give them after the payment. I read that it is not required to give the MTCN number to supplier somewhere in the post but the supplier says MTCN number will be required. Is there another layer of protecting myself after giving the MTCN number?

Thank you for helping this newbie.

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http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article194094974.html
http://www.westernunionremission.com/

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Online or internet purchase scams, in which items you attempted to buy online were not received.
Lottery or prize promotion scams, in which you were told you won a lottery or sweepstakes but never received the prize.
Emergency or grandparent scams, in which you sent money to someone pretending to be a relative or friend in urgent need of money.
Advance-fee loan scams, in which you paid upfront fees but did not receive the promised loan.
Online dating or romance scams, in which you sent money to someone who created a fake profile on a dating or social networking website.
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