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TSmich3113
post Sep 6 2011, 09:32 AM, updated 15y ago

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I have been scammed yesterday.

The seller asked me pay him by Western Union, then he asked me to give him mtcn number so that he can check the payment status. After 30 minutes, the payment status show "picked up". Then he said he didn't receive the payment. Then I start worry so I google search "western union scam" and I found this http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/saf...union-scam.html and this http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...tern+union+scam.

Although I have bean cheated rm980 only, but I am still angry vmad.gif

Is there any way to find him out by his gmail account? Any IT professor can help to find him out? If no way to find him out, then what I can say is IT professor also has the weakness, LOL.

I did email western union service center :
"Hello, I did transfer RM980 from malaysia a seller in uk, I gave the mtcn number, my 1st name and last name to the seller to check the status.
After 30 minutes, the status shows already picked up, but seller didn't receive the money, so the seller won't post out the products to me.
Do you have CCTV to see the guy who picked up the money that i sent? Please do send me the picture of his face, I need to take action to get back my money.
I have attached the two transaction receipts in this email for reference. Thank you".

But until now I didn't receive any reply from western union service center yet.

I want to find out the scammer, is there any way to find him out? I try to check his ip address, his ip is from Philippine, so I think he is using proxy to do the trick. He know many things about Malaysia when I chatting with him on Yahoo messenger, so I doubt he is in Malaysia. I google search his email address ( expressphonedelivery@gmail.com ) and I just realize he was trying to scam so many people around the internet, whenever apple/samsung/asus/toshiba show new products on website, he went to send comment onto the webpage with his price, asking people buy the new products from him can get cheaper price.

There are so many innocent people who still don't know this western union scam trick. How to tell everyone to be aware of this scam? I personally think Western Union website and bank websites must show the following sentence on all "transfer payment" page so that people won't get scammed :
"important!! Do not send money to people u don't know, it might be scam!! More info at here "

This post has been edited by mich3113: Sep 6 2011, 04:09 PM
TSmich3113
post Sep 6 2011, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(joey85 @ Sep 6 2011, 09:57 AM)
i think u can create a dispute topic at:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showforum=128

instead open here happy.gif
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Cannot, dispute topic has rule : 3) This board is for LYN Trade Zone disputes only. Do not post mudah, lelong, or ebay disputes here. !!!!


Added on September 6, 2011, 10:11 am
QUOTE(alex_cyw1985 @ Sep 6 2011, 10:08 AM)
You should "I google search his email address ( expressphonedelivery@gmail.com ) and I just realize he was trying to scam so many people around the internet"

before you send the money. and not after.
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What? it makes sense he trying to get more customers to buy products from him, I though he is so hardworking to find customers around the internet. Nothing wrong. Actually I did verify him before I paid him. To verify the seller is real or not, just ask him to do the 3 things : webcam show ready stocks, his advertisement account which has many good comments from buyers, recent shipping tracking numbers.

He fail to do the 3 things and he tried to offer me better solution, he said he will ship the products before i pay, so i agree since this solution solve my worry already. Then he said he need his boss to approve the shipment, so need me to create fake payment to cheat his boss, after his boss see, i can cancel the payment. He ask me just use western union to pay him by writing other name for receiver, don't write his name so that he cannot withdraw out the money. He cheated me that western union will require his ic in order to widthdraw out the money. If his IC is not match to the the name I wrote (receiver's name), then he can't withdraw money. I never know as long as he got mtcn, he can withdraw out money without using ic / name. shocking.gif

This post has been edited by mich3113: Sep 6 2011, 10:38 AM
TSmich3113
post Sep 6 2011, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(80toyshop @ Sep 6 2011, 10:14 AM)
does this guy has a website where he sell stuff? i find that western union is very insecure be cos i have also been cheated before but the amount is quite small, the other party just need mctn and he can withdraw
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He doesn't have any website, he just like to comment on those expensive products websites something like : "RM3000 is best price I can give u, anyone insterested to buy it please contact my email ( expressphonedelivery@gmail.com )". You can google search his email address to see his comments on some websites.

How did I know him? He found me on facebook, he add me as fren in facebook, then post onto my facebook wall "brother, can we discuss something? Do u have yahoo messenger or msn messenegr"? His facebook has many phones pictures and the pictures tagged many people. Seem he is trying to scam many facebook users too.

Yes, western union is insecure, scammer simply say "can u give me the mtcn so that i can check the payment status on Western Union Tracking payment page"? Many scammers cheat buyers that he can't withdraw the money if his identity card is not match to the receiver's name, but actually he can withdraw the money as long as he has the mtcn. vmad.gif

This post has been edited by mich3113: Sep 6 2011, 10:34 AM
TSmich3113
post Sep 6 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 6 2011, 02:02 PM)
take it as a somewhat expensive life lesson lor. if he's in malaysia then you might be able to do something, but since he's overseas then you're screwed.
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he tried to scam me rm10k, lucky my frens refused to lent me the money, I was angry my frens are helpless, but now I think back, I should thanks my frens. Haha. biggrin.gif

If he is in Malaysia, how can i find him? He is trying to scam me today again, he said he didn't scam my money, and he show me the shipping tracking number, i guess he just post empty box to me. He said he can pay rm980 to me for my lost if I give him access to my lelong.com.my and ebay.com.my account. I replied him : "haha, u think i am stupid? u just want to get my customers' email from my lelong and ebay account then scam them by using my account. I will never trust u again, just stop it!". He don't afraid of me although I already found out he is a scammer. He still chat with me every hours. Solute him. sweat.gif

This post has been edited by mich3113: Sep 6 2011, 04:08 PM

 

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