looks like my keyboard... ...   

thank you man, i pull both out, push it back, now all align 

mmorpg no need so fast gua... ... i wonder who will use full 55600 to play game... (heavy gunner? assault rifler?)

Razer Abyssus
Razer Copperhead
Razer Deathadder 3G Mac edition
Razer Deathadder 3.5G
Razer Deathadder Black Edition
Razer Destructor
Razer Sphex



PS: Undarken is my nick on another forum

3 death adder? and a big can more crunch 

I tried both Mamba 3.5G and 4G.
They are totally rubbish.
- Too heavy
- DPI buttons are awkward to reach while gaming
- Bad sensor
- Poor battery life
- A total waste of $$$

I pity any poor soul that thinks Mamba is a gaming mouse when it's only a over-priced over-blinged wireless mouse.
Mamba is for hooligans who love neons and think they're awesome with bling bling mouse.


Mamba is my newly appointed worst mouse ever, Kinzu was the ex-worst mouse.

List of horrible mouse I have ever used:
- Razer Mamba 3.5G
- Razer Mamba 4G
- Roccat Kone
- Roccat Kone+
- Roccat Kova
- Steelseries Kinzu
- Thermaltake Azurues
- Thermaltake Black
- Thermaltake Black Element

Kinzu v1 is definitely on the list due the worst sensor known to man and crappy switches which fail me after 2 RMA
Kinzu Red is slighter better with OMRON switches but the sensor is still the same crappy one.

Kinzu red will be in my neutral list so it the Xai.
Xai has a good sensor but the side buttons are too small and awkward to reach while gaming and Steelseries software is horrible to program the mouse.

But Kinzu have one very strong point that is it's shape, It's the perfect claw-grip mouse.
I tempted to build the legendary Kinzuadder(mutant of Deathadder internals with Kinzu casing)

CMstorm = Sentinel Advance?
I haven't test that but it would be in the horrible list due to the Philips twin eye sensor.
There are others that I've not tested but probably be on the horrible list such as the Imperator 4G and Lachesis
Cooler Master only makes one good mouse that is the Spawn but it's strictly for claw grip users only.

"Gaming" headsets are rubbish compare to Audiophile headsets in the same price range.
HD555 and AD700 are great headset for gaming.

cause i tried this on one of the cc, and it quite fit my hands.

diamondback is kinda slightly bigger. recommend copperhead. if you wanted a simpler razer mouse can go for the abyssus

There's one cc at wangsa maju called V2 cyber cafe, they used to have full of death adder mouse ,end up all the mouse send to RMA one by one every 3months, the boss were quite bad about it. kind of like rubbish, if is not because is cheap. he got it for like less than a hundred. else he wont even bother to get one of that.

http://www.razerzone.com/bredtofight

Razer Arcade Stick anyone?

So, all in all its the same thing? I thought there's like a huge major difference between both models.

u can put the best mouse in the world in a cc full of dotards, and it will still get broken.
not as if they ppl who play there have an obligation to look after stuff that doesnt belong to them.

Totally agree with you. Just top up bit only. Can get DA BE also if Black fetish. LOL

im well aware of the led..I tried deathadder refresh at a cc quite some times,must say that i like the shape..
The only problem is about deathadder refresh and black edition is the surface of it..Which do you recommend?? I heard da black got a nice top surface which is similar to steelseries and it is easier to maintain + the rubbery sides is wonderful..not to mention that da black wont have a scroll wheel that will turn yellowish after a period of time..
So da normal or black? 

not all, that should be obvious.
but the point still remains that if he wants NKRO, he shouldnt be looking at BW.

i still dont like the design tho cos the macro keys on the left keep bugging me...always mispress the keys near wasd.

yea, i dont like the layout for BW

my deathadder is acting weird again..my 2nd deathadder in a year ==...sumtime wen i single click it become double click..

my lycosa also no problem...used for longer den my deathadder...yet my deathadder begin to act weird..=="

all razer mice has two year warranty by banleong in my, u can send back to shop or direct to banleong hq, dont forgot must have receipt.

yea rma is send back, they fix mouse or exhange new unit.

keyboard have how many years?? i feel like my lycosa backspace key gt problem.

there isnt any warranty card... 

not its just some thingys they put inside the box along with the mouse , its has no significance what so ever , mayb just to prove the product is real? and not water fish product? but Imo the water fix product can also print the stupid paper, if they can copy the mouse

im sure that time can buy already.
maybe not selling, so they decide to re-publicize it again

i know. haha but hard to determine pirated anot ma cuz not many around. i had the fake mantis and the real mantis. the fake one really is jus a plain normal mousepad and it doesn't hv the razerzone.com words in it. small in size also. i jus get it for fun becuz at that time as i couldn't get hold of the real one. thn found one in store.

i also found a fake razer moray PAX 09 that doesn't comes with the PAX 09 pouch and the rest of the accessories.

to say to get it directly from China is more scary compared to ordering from their site XD ..