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TSsilverwave
post Sep 4 2011, 12:04 AM, updated 14y ago

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Hi,

I started piano lessons about 17 years ago and i stopped at Grade 1 or Grade 2 (I can't even remember).

Anyway, i wanted to take up piano lessons again, so i went to Yamaha in Subang Parade. I was told that it's a trend to start keyboard nowadays and it's very similar to piano.

True?
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post Sep 4 2011, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ Sep 4 2011, 12:04 AM)
I was told that it's a trend to start keyboard nowadays and it's very similar to piano.
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trend? dunno...

similar to piano? not really. only the keys arrangement is identical, the rest like weight/touch/respond is entirely different from a real piano, sometimes the size of the key is slightly different too.

the reason to start with keyboard simply because - cheaper, portable, doesn't take up space much, perfect for beginners which mostly learning how to recognize notes and keys. if you want to take exam, you MUST buy/rent piano to practice, exam will never provide anything other than real piano.
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post Sep 4 2011, 11:40 PM

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Well it depends on what type of songs you want to play, really. If you want to take it up as a casual hobby and just play pop songs, then I say go for the keyboard.

However, if you're serious in learning, and are interested in playing classical pieces as well as contemporary music, then it's better to invest in a piano. The touch is very different, I assure you.
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post Sep 5 2011, 04:46 PM

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for me, better start from the basic/simple which is keyboard, after your level is into intermediate, then go for piano.

its just similar to learn playing guitar, mostly started from acoustic guitar then go for electric. smile.gif

btw, keyboard is not bad though, nowadays keyboard got thousand of sound include piano. (which sound more to digital). but its good for the start.
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post Sep 9 2011, 12:04 AM

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Thanks for the input guys.

Well, it's more of a hobby for now, nothing serious. If i get more serious later, i will move on to piano.


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post Sep 11 2011, 10:26 PM

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I'm 17 this year, got my first "piano", a keyboard, 4 months ago, don't really have much time to invest on it.. although i listen to piano music A LOT, I still have to study for my SPM.. I'm loving my Casio CTK-3000 keyboard.. it's pretty nice! xD
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post Sep 11 2011, 10:44 PM

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The one Yamaha recommended to me was PSR 570 (i think this is the model). Sounded good to me.

I will be starting in 4 months time smile.gif
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QUOTE(ecitenoid @ Sep 5 2011, 04:46 PM)
for me, better start from the basic/simple which is keyboard, after your level is into intermediate, then go for piano.

its just similar to learn playing guitar, mostly started from acoustic guitar then go for electric. smile.gif

btw, keyboard is not bad though, nowadays keyboard got thousand of sound include piano. (which sound more to digital). but its good for the start.
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I think if TS is serious should go to piano straight....keyboard is so...kiddie...it is not about how many sounds you can find in a keyboard, it's about the key's weight and feel....but i prefer digital piano...best of worlds...fun sounds and good feel!

btw, i started on keyboard first also...but guitar started with electric...but gave up guitar liao...at least i gets to make a lots of distortion noise...haha.

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post Dec 1 2011, 03:40 PM

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A piano is a piano, a keyboard is a keyboard. Not suppose to replace each other. Although a keyboard can do a piano sound, but it will never become keyboard (for near sometime at least)

So choose what you are intended for.
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post Dec 2 2011, 01:57 AM

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well for starters u can go for a keyboard 1st....unless you are serious about learning piano then why not go for a piano instead?i using yamaha psr e233 when i was started learning.

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post Dec 2 2011, 10:53 PM

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i started with keyboard first because i thought i might stop learning someday but then after a year, i get a piano which was given by my aunt smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2011, 04:00 PM

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with piano, you can play any songs on a keyboard but if you practise on a keyboard, you might not get the same rich effect on the piano.
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post Dec 13 2011, 11:32 AM

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I'll say the piano...once u play on it...you'll never want to turn back to the keyboard.

The weight of the keys, the sound and the "feel". Keyboard doesn't have that extra oomph or solid feel.

Or you can have the best of both worlds, an electric piano. No need to tune sommore! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 14 2011, 10:11 PM

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Well, its actually up to you.. If you intend on doing performances or etc (bringing your instrument here and there) , better get a keyboard with good specs.. smile.gif


Added on December 14, 2011, 10:13 pm
QUOTE(Sultan Of Siam @ Dec 14 2011, 07:00 PM)
btw will i have a problem learning piano later if i'm starting with keyboard?
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No~ Unless you're not comfortable with the keys on the piano... XD It's still the same. Only the sounds differs .

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post Dec 14 2011, 11:54 PM

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This is my opinion, though there are few ways to look at it.

Piano is great the feel of it and the sound I would say is more natural in comparison to keyboards. As much as how the newer keyboards emulate the piano in tone and pitch, the feeling is just not the same.

Moreover I guess some of the keyboards have quite a limited range in terms of octaves , but depending on what type of music genre or style you would like to play this could also work to your advantage, moreso the portability of carrying a keyboard around.

If you intend to want to experiment or play around with a number of synthesised instruments, then a keyboard is great to synthesize those digital instrument sounds , unlike a piano which is.. well just a piano tongue.gif

Then again cost wise is also a huge factor considering a piano can be a hefty investment compared to a keyboard. Nonetheless if your doing it as a hobby most likely keyboard is a better pick.

Moreso on a plus side I guess though this comes later keyboards these days can be plugged in for digital mixing.. if you are to get into that kind of thing. Classic pianos will be harder.. unless your looking more into an electric piano.. but that again is a whole new topic tongue.gif

Sorry for being so long, hope you have fun playing music.

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post Dec 15 2011, 12:11 AM

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keyboard n piano key when u pressed is not d same ka? its d same right? its only the sound that makes d difference.. but keyboard better cos lotsa lotsa sound can change.. u can consider urself a 1 man band already. piano for me i observe seeing alot in rich ppl house.. n normally just stood there till it ends @.@

srry my bad english..
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Interested on learning to play piano long time ago..but sadly i dont have a piano neither keyboard..just ply frm my ipad..sad.gif
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QUOTE(Junkyard @ Dec 15 2011, 12:11 AM)
keyboard n piano key when u pressed is not d same ka? its d same right? its only the sound that makes d difference.. but keyboard better cos lotsa lotsa sound can change.. u can consider urself a 1 man band already. piano for me i observe seeing alot in rich ppl house.. n normally just stood there till it ends @.@

srry my bad english..
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different feel bro

if im not mistaken, piano got weighted keys while cheapo keyboard dun have
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post Dec 17 2011, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Dec 16 2011, 07:27 PM)
different feel bro

if im not mistaken, piano got weighted keys while cheapo keyboard dun have
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i agree.. really different feel.. and the sound they produce is not exactly the same...
prefer piano! smile.gif
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post Dec 18 2011, 04:58 PM

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hm..TS, i think it all depends on your budget. IF you living well off, can afford a piano and you're serious of taking up the lessons, go for a piano instead.

I was lucky my parents could afford a piano when I started taking up piano lessons many yrs back. I never tried a keyboard. But during school days I've tried playing my friend's keyboard, I could really tell that, with a keyboard, there's no... ermm.. ohmmm.. that feeling, the sound of the keys. are so different.

But if ur budget doesn't allow you, then just go for a keyboard. Cheap and save space.
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keyboard or piano both have own pros and cons. If you have budget constraint, go for keyboard, better than nothing as practice make perfect! Or else, go for the piano~
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post Aug 21 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ Sep 4 2011, 12:04 AM)
Hi,

I started piano lessons about 17 years ago and i stopped at Grade 1 or Grade 2 (I can't even remember).

Anyway, i wanted to take up piano lessons again, so i went to Yamaha in Subang Parade. I was told that it's a trend to start keyboard nowadays and it's very similar to piano.

True?
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hi, it's been so long and i have been so busy with work till i forgot about my piano/keyboard interest.

What are the price range of a piano? It could be either new/second hand. I saw some in Yamaha Subang Parade but those are like 5 digits.
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QUOTE(silverwave @ Aug 21 2012, 10:41 PM)
hi, it's been so long and i have been so busy with work till i forgot about my piano/keyboard interest.

What are the price range of a piano? It could be either new/second hand. I saw some in Yamaha Subang Parade but those are like 5 digits.
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About RM5000 for used yamaha. You can get other used piano at RM 2000 smile.gif
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post Aug 22 2012, 03:53 PM

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Used piano ranges from RM1500 to RM12000. It depends on the brand, playing for pleasure or examinations. If you have any questions, you can PM for advises. Thank you
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post Aug 22 2012, 04:11 PM

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keyboard, u can even plug in an headset to play so u wont bother other ppl else
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post Aug 22 2012, 04:22 PM

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http://www.ptg.org/userfiles/file/learning...usticPianos.pdf

hv fun


Added on August 22, 2012, 4:26 pm
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keyboard,  u can even plug in an headset to play so u wont bother other ppl else
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acoustic piano too can have that feature installing a system/devide called "silent system" plus midi in/out, plus 127 GM and many more, while maintaining the feel of an acoustic piano.

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post Aug 24 2012, 12:57 PM

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Before you buy anything you should know what you are planning to achieve. Like what sort of music or playing style you're looking for.

Casual? Or into serious classical music?

*you can't play classical music with a keyboard. I mean you can, but the touch isn't there and you don't have enough keys
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post Sep 30 2012, 04:12 PM

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Hi all, thank you for the advises and feedback.

For me it's more of my personal interest and it should be more of modern songs.

I've sort of decided to start with keyboard first for now and see how it goes.

After doing some reading over the net, i was considering the Yamaha PSR E433 but when i visited Yamaha, they said PSR S650 would be a better choice if i'm thinking of long term. The price is also double.

This is the part where i can't make up my mind, what do you think?
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QUOTE(kameraman @ Sep 30 2012, 04:30 PM)
u know to play or just starts learning? buying 61key keyboard not worth it at all if you already know how to play. Lots of songs cant play. later sure need to upgrade to full keys
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I'm just going to start. smile.gif
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Remind me of my cousin buying a RM12k piano when she is just starting to learn piano.. she is not even sure she is gonna like it as a hobby or not. just buy a average piano can dy, all my siblings including me finish our gd8 with an average piano. smile.gif

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post Oct 8 2012, 10:40 PM

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The only worry i have when buying second hand items are the warranty. Based on what i've read spare parts are really high for electronic musical instruments.

That's why i was opting for a new unit.
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Hi all,

I'm considering an used keyboard too for now because i'm worried i can't make a 100% commitment at the moment due to work.

What are the things to look for when getting a used keyboard? Besides the warranty & condition, what should a beginner like me look for? Any recommended places to get one? (I don't think Yamaha centers sells second hand if i'm not wrong)


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QUOTE(silverwave @ Sep 4 2011, 01:04 AM)
Hi,

I started piano lessons about 17 years ago and i stopped at Grade 1 or Grade 2 (I can't even remember).

Anyway, i wanted to take up piano lessons again, so i went to Yamaha in Subang Parade. I was told that it's a trend to start keyboard nowadays and it's very similar to piano.

True?
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In my terms and my opinion, Keyboard is keyboard,piano is piano(same as digital piano)its a huge different.
Keyboard you can mess with much more sound and voices,rhythm and style,arrangement to different genre of a music.
Of course,most of the terms keyboard is less than 88 Standard piano Keys which is 49,54,61,76 keys are perfect for gigging. Those are called "keyboards". For piano, 88 keys. Sure they are a lot of different voices,styles and rhythm for today DIGITAL piano but,piano is something involving classical piano piece. Only PIANO,no other sound involve.

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Thanks for the feedback.

Based on some research that i did, second hand keyboards are not that cheap either. For example, a PSR233, 333 and 423 are a couple of hundred cheaper only compared to a new keyboard and the warranty is almost expiring (based on the survey i did in the trade zone).

Now i'm thinking, PSR E433 or PSR S650 (i heard a new model might be out soon, true?)


Added on November 13, 2012, 5:49 pm
QUOTE(AquaralSS @ Nov 12 2012, 03:05 PM)
In my terms and my opinion, Keyboard is keyboard,piano is piano(same as digital piano)its a huge different.
Keyboard you can mess with much more sound and voices,rhythm and style,arrangement to different genre of a music.
Of course,most of the terms keyboard is less than 88 Standard piano Keys which is 49,54,61,76 keys are perfect for gigging. Those are called "keyboards". For piano, 88 keys. Sure they are a lot of different voices,styles and rhythm for today DIGITAL piano but,piano is something involving classical piano piece. Only PIANO,no other sound involve.
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Hi,

I don't think i'll be playing classical music much, it's more for modern music.

Thanks for the feedback smile.gif

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ya la, they also dun have enough piano to accomodate many students i think..

piano damn expensive.. but what he said is true maaa... keys are all the same onli.. sound only.. if piano bit more authentic la brows.gif

 

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