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TSRS232C
post Aug 28 2011, 11:42 PM, updated 15y ago

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Dear All,

I would like to share my family house construction on a 1 acre land in Sungai Buloh. Curretly we had a budget slippage by 150K++ sweat.gif

Initially my parents allocated 250K for this house each of us (4 total siblings) contributed RM40-50K additional for the said house. However current cost already reach almost 700K (yet to include hall, bedroom, toilet furnishing even worst electrical wiring)

we requested quotation from 3 wiring contractors and the cheapest quoted us RM35K for the overall banglo wiring. which we find a little bit expensive and plan to cut the cost to 20K-25K Max. Appreciate forumers assistance to share your wiring contractors whom have good workmanship + affordable pricing.

What we need is

1) wiring contractor
2) kitchen furnishing contractor
3) bathroom furnishing contractor


all above contractor need to work out together with construction contractor (main contractor) for this entire project supervised by my sister whom is the architect for this house. My sister will share the whole floor plan to the appointed contractor.

Some pic to share and i will update it from time to time on the overall progress.

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TSRS232C
post Aug 28 2011, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(eclipse-space @ Aug 28 2011, 11:45 PM)
WOW, 150k to 700k is a whopping 550k!

Anyway, as for electrical wiring, perhaps you could share what your plans are.
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nope.. its RM250K + RM40K + RM 50K + RM 50K + RM50K = 440K ; now almost 700K.

anyway, plan to have 3 phase wiring since the house is huge and will have a lot of aircond. Do you have any contact for wiring contractor, if yes appreciate if you can share with me, and i will bring my sister to share the whole planning for it. I only know the surface of the entire project but was appointed to control the budget within the acceptable figure.

Its a family project anyway


Added on August 28, 2011, 11:53 pm
QUOTE(zheilwane @ Aug 28 2011, 11:47 PM)
lols like a mini shopping mall rather than a bunglow to me haha

Btw, i bliv u nd to get some bathroom stuff like toilet bowl, taps, basins and etc. Most probably u nd a solar water heater and water pump as well. I do sell of those and my shop is in Kepong, near to sungai buloh. Just join my facebook to view our latest promotions.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?flyingspa...100001245528914
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I already requested just now. please add


QUOTE(lizziewong @ Aug 28 2011, 11:49 PM)
I think for such a big house, 30k for wiring is not really expensive.  I was quoted for about 20k+ for a double storey link house.   Of course, without knowing details, it is difficult to say for sure.

If your sister is the architect, it is really strange that the realistic cost for construction was not made known earlier...
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slippage because of balcony extension and change 3 layer wall (inner layer sand brick, outward facing and inward facing using clay brick) the bricks cost a lot. Plus, recently the construction cost increase by 20-25% while our budget was budgeted late last year (project was put on hold and only start last month)

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post Aug 29 2011, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 29 2011, 12:07 AM)
If you plan to use 3 phase, and all new electrical outlet and minimal looping 35k to me is cheap. Does it include new earthing? TNB application for 3 Phase?

Some other cost you may want to consider

01) Copper / Stainless Steel piping (for centralized water heater).
- Think for your Bungalow may need 7 - 10k to cover upper and lower floor
02) Roof tiles also increase a lot, so need to add more buffer
03) CCTV, and Alarm wiring
04) Toilet sink/bowl... This things really very expensive
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1) we might not use centralized water heater but may consider as per zean suggestion on his facebook
2) roof tiles has been budgeted with huge sum of figure; we are actually hoping to grab some budget from this portion
3) cctc and alarm wiring is not budgeted in the first place. but already get a quotation from ADT securities under the manage service. thus we consider it as opex since its recurring and not capex as one time charge is being absorb on monthly commitment fees.
4) yeap, just had few tours yesterday and had a headache. plan to tour at zean's showroom this coming sat.

hope that overall construction + wiring + plumbing toilet furnishing + kitchen furnishing does not exceed our target.

hall and room furnishing is not budgeted since each on of us need to fork out our own money to furnish our room
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post Aug 29 2011, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Aug 29 2011, 12:26 AM)
How can you figure running so high? Is not the material been lockdown by the contractor, or you guys will purchased and they provide labour?
But to build the whole house it easily take up more them 500K. Just imaging a extention of front car pourche and Back kitchen (2 floor) it easily up to 100K...
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as mentioned earlier, the initial budget is based on late last year pricing and not based on 3 layered wall. Somehow the project was put on hold and only kick start about a month back and we had an price increase on material + the changes of 3 layered wall..

We actually use the same contractor whom did our front car pourche and extension of masterbedroom for double story house in TTDI, 4 years back which only cost us about 35K for material and 20K labor.If we didnt go with this contractor, other contractor did quoted us close to 1 mil for construction only.

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post Aug 29 2011, 08:46 AM

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hi nick,

she do have her contact but they quoted from range of 35K to a whopping 60K.

im accounted for the budgeting thus im looking for more options, not to say she didnt use her contacts; she did but still expensive. I wont release the budget unless im trully satisfied with my own search.


the house build up area is around 6300 sqf. with the following area

2 living halls
7 rooms
1 library
wet + dry kitchen
1 store
5 bathroom

the cheapest quotation we received have the following item

living hall - 3 nos standard plug each + wiring for fan & lighting & aircond
room - 2 nos standard plug each + wiring for fan, lighting & aircond
library - 2 nos standard plug + wiring for lighting and aircond
dry kitchen - 5 nos standard plug + wiring for lighting
wet kitchen - 3 nos standard plug + wiring for lighting and fan
store - 1 nos standard plug + wiring for lighting
bathroom - wiring for lighting and 3x1 nos water heater plug

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post Aug 29 2011, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Aug 29 2011, 09:41 AM)
I'm abit doubtful with your sister PM skill..

RM700k include what item? Based on your photo, you should have finalized your roof design c/w shop drawing for Approval..

For all Mechanical works, should us piping should have proceeded as per design.. How come you still looking for WC or any other fitting..

For electrical works, u need to finalize your contractor ASAP as the brickworks is moving.. Does your project have a M&E consultant?
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I only know the surface of the detailing works. She gave me the quotation to release the budget however i decline to release it. it just that i dont like the wiring contractor all 3 of them and i would like to open my options open as of now, my dateline to get few other quotation is 2nd week of September.

Construction will stop for almost 2 weeks as all workers going back for raya. thus im taking this opportunity to seek for one. else we will proceed with the one in hand and cant cut the cost for wiring and have to cut from other section.


QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 29 2011, 10:12 AM)
This look too few for a bungalow. And how many looping are we talking? I'll suggest to have two DB box.. One for Ground, another for first floor. Depend on your room size, you may need 2 for a typical 100sqft room, to maybe 4 for larger and longer wall. How about parking porch? you need to have power socket also.

sl2007 is right, your M&E should have been finalized, looking at the architect  you should be able to design number of wall socket, and estimate lighting.

For such a big house, is better to run centralized water heater.

BTW, water heater mixer is not cheap. Around 500 - 1k for a good mixer.
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the one i listed is the one comes under RM35K quote. the other 60K quote have bunch of other listing including unnecessary 6 nos commando plug located outside the house (couple each location)



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post Aug 29 2011, 12:02 PM

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thanks bishop for the heads up on heating, zean did highlight bout this earlier and im actually looking into one of his solution (from his FB).

as for outside plug, Well 2 nos might be appropriate but not until 6, plus we do have 3

On the other hand, our 1 acre land do have 3 light pole just beside our grandparents house build 6-7 years back.
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post Aug 29 2011, 12:55 PM

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the way you guys comment, its seems like the 60K quote by one of the contractor make sense.

base on planning, the layout wiring for hall top use a visible PVC pipe between wiring points. but then they said the plaster ceiling should cover up the entire trunking. is it the correct way, i had an argument with my sis on this make it a must for us to have total plaster ceiling for all halls.

On the other hand, socket wiring will be run through pvc pipe conceal within walls. if we confirm with this contractor, they will lay those pvc piping before the inner layer wall stack up.

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post Aug 29 2011, 01:28 PM

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nah, i cant comment much on design since she design it to be the way my parents liking. We are pretty topup/contribute some money and arrange everything from them.

A forumer PM'ed me and would like to see the whole planning thus he can give me a rough figure quote.


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post Aug 29 2011, 05:52 PM

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A) Roofing YES
B) window + glazing YES + grill + railing
C) floor finishes YES tiles ground floor + fully timber flooring for upper floor
D) wall finishes (ditto) YES + custom teak door for all door except bathroom doors
E) painting works YES
F) hard landscaping works NOPE
G) soft landscaping works NOPE


the amount will reach almost 700k with below item in place
1) wiring - the one quoted 60K
2) additional 2 big pillar at car pouch (without the pillar it will look super weird like mini shopping mall sweat.gif ) total almost 25K
3) 'kampung style' gazebo right infront of house 10K
4) piping and sewerage 50K (25K alone just to create one deep 'dumping sewerage system' area bout 30 meters from house as kampung area do not have indah water kind of waste sewerage)
5) 50K buffer for all item A-E and 1-4

will snap some pic tomorrow as im going back to sg buloh for raya.

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post Aug 31 2011, 01:34 PM

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detail electrical quotation

1) 3 phase underground - RM8500
2) 24 way 3 phase metal DB (2unit) RM5600
3) Surface metal panel - RM 650
4) Eathing - RM1200
5) PLC Downlight Point- RM 55each x (number of points)
6) Fluoresence Lighting Point - RM55each x (number of points)
7) Wall Lighting Point - RM55each x (number of points)
8) Fan Point - RM90each x (number of points)
9) 13A Power Point - RM85each x (number of points)
10) 20A Power Point - RM120each x (number of points)
11) Tel Points - RM100each x (number of points)
12) AirCond Points - RM250 x (number of points)
13) Astro Points - RM100 x (number of points)

If any wiring contractor can give cheaper than this based on rough quote. let me know


No we dont use auto gate since this is kampung area.


Added on August 31, 2011, 1:35 pm
QUOTE(skng03 @ Aug 31 2011, 12:30 AM)
No tel pt, Tv pt, Astro Pt?? for kt, beside std plug, no plan for oven/ streamer/ induction hob/ infrared hob/ hood?? 
no cost for DB, cable from TNB meter to your main DB( u don't want overhang cable from TNB pole right!!)
sub main cable

no fencing, auto gate for bungalow doh.gif 
but 750k for 6.3kbuilt up = mission impossible  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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well, once complete. will let know whether its possible or not. the way i see it excluding furnishing on 2nd floor rooms, its possible,


Ceiling finishes Quote

1) Plaster Ceiling with paint - 642unit in m2 - RM17976 which includes L box, Belmet, Step cornies based on the floor plan design

Painting
1) Externall Wall, 608 unit m2 - RM7296
2) Internal Wall, 1966 unit m2 - RM 15728

Internal Wall Finishes
1) 18mm plaster to walls, beams and columns, RM45218

External Wall Finishes
1) 18mm plaster to walls, beams and columns, RM17024
2) to isolate column, beam & RC hood RM2000

Timber Flooring
1) Laminated timber flooring (selected area only), 250 unit m2, RM15000
2) MDF 100mm skirting 569 unit m2, RM9673
3) Staircase with riser, 19 steps, RM5700 (merbau TG or Solid hardwood)


Plumbing Manage to get more discount down to RM45500 (including water pump RM2000)


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post Aug 31 2011, 11:32 PM

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that is the quotation given, im just copy pasta

price for material, brick,s cement etc etc is on another column of quotation which i dont think i can disclose, since its consider below market selling price.

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post Sep 8 2011, 12:30 AM

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not much off progress, as mentioned the work stop during the whole week of raya and this week.


Anyway, Already appointed a registered contractor which is also a forumer here. very good pricing. thinking about sub-con the plumbing work to him aswell as the pricing is attractive.

 

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