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pyroboy1911
post Sep 12 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Sep 12 2011, 09:37 PM)
Spurs did that last season
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Spurs one is 1 for BPL, 1 for UCL. different competition and under different body. so not exactly the same as QPR.

but still, i think 2 sponsor can be allowed. In fact once there is a club in the Coca-Cola league that goes blank, and print the sponsor on their shirt on a "per match" basis, meaning if i pay that club to put sponsor for 2 games, then they put it on for 2 games and so on.
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post Sep 13 2011, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Sep 13 2011, 08:39 PM)
not sure if some one posted this
but this coming from such "honorable" club with "mature" fans
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http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=244215

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having to bring this up and ridicule them, doesnt sound like u are more mature than them as well rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 16 2011, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(myafdal1989 @ Sep 15 2011, 10:59 PM)
Fergie The Man

this interview also want to be an issue  shakehead.gif

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On the contrary it is the fact that Cates' Kenny's daughter than the media make such a big issue about this, claiming this will anger kenny, SAF scolded Cates because of feud with Kenny. Any other interviewer who asked the same question will of course gets the same reply, especially after SAF alread mentioned before the game that regardless, De Gea will be starting against Chelsea. But will the media make a big fuss if the interviewer is some John Carpenter from Herdfordshire? bullshit writing and throwing accusations like this, imagine Kenny read the paper and the press managed to convinced him that SAF is "bullying" his daughter.

And all this coming from the same bunch of reporters that some of you lots like to read and go rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif over transfers.
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post Sep 16 2011, 03:13 PM

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Commenting about performances?

Any of you here actually realized Benfica played EXCELLENTLY, bringing the game to our team? Their attackers linked so well, Pablo Aimar, being a legend of attacking midfield he is, goes head to head with our defenders everytime he gets the ball. Their midfield and defenders managed to break our gameplay especially in the first 30 minutes of the game.

Do i see any of you commenting on that? Instead all i see is comments on how the team under-performed. Just because Benfica isnt a international name if compared to Porto (at least in our part of the world), you immediately assume they are the team that we "can perform against". they are runners up in Portuguese League, and the winners before. The very moment i tuned in to the game and see the amazing atmosphere in the stadium, i know they are one heck of a club.

And even if the performance of the team isnt as good, in what terms of performance are you judging? to get a point away from home against Benfica, this performance is normal for United. Why suddenly the talk about WEAK performance? Simple really; your expectation skyrocketed after the game against Arsenal and Bolton.

If you think every game is like how we play against Arsenal and Bolton, then i suggest u stop watching for the rest of the season. It's gonna be bumpy as always, shock defeats or draws will turn up at some point of the season.
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post Sep 16 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Pain_X @ Sep 16 2011, 03:28 PM)
Wow,do you even know what performance means? Performance means how the team played on the particular day. It doesn't matter to me if we played Benfica,or Barcelona or Brazil ; Im looking at how WE played. Benfica could've been playing the greatest football in the world,what matters to me is how WE COUNTERED that and how WE PERFORMED against them. If you don't think we were under-performing,at least in the first half,you were probably watching the wrong match. Everyone noticed that,so we were talking about the performance. No disrespect to Benfica,in the first half,they played well,but we are Manchester United,we should be playing better than that. We barely kept the ball flowing and there were WAYYYY too many misplaced passes. Is that normal to you? Isnt that performance related? How is that connected to the final result? Like i said previously,im happy with the point ; Champs league,hostile environment,away game,against the main threat in the group. Thus,im happy with the point,a little disappointed with the performance.

I dont know how you can confuse that with whining about the result.
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If opponent plays well and disrupts our gameplay, wouldnt our performance be affected as well? If opponent continues to put a foot in and intercepts passes, does that mean our passes suck, or they did well in preventing our performances from going the right way? The way i see it Benfica did enough to makes us sloppy by applying pressure. They bring the game to us so our defenders have a lot to do. Or are you saying that United should play great football, and that how opponent play against us is irrelevant? So If United's passing completion is 95% against Swindon Town, but against Barcelona is only 90%, United's performance against Barcelona is worse than that against Swindon Town? by your logic the opposition doesnt matter, so that is the conclusion?

and like i said, if you think every performance needs to be excellent, no missed passes (regardless opposition intercepting or not), each shot goes on target (regardless if opposition puts their body against our shots) or our defender tackles every single ball (regardless if opposition have great and fluid movement or not), then United's game is not for you because United being United, the club will always grind results, and win games even when doesnt perform.


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post Sep 16 2011, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pain_X @ Sep 16 2011, 03:53 PM)
Dude,you're clearly confused and i dont intend to argue with someone who wants to contradict just for the sake of contradicting.

"Or are you saying that United should play great football, and that how opponent play against us is irrelevant"
I cant even brain this. Of course we are responsible for how we perform  doh.gif

We go into every game with the intention to play well and win. What you are saying is that we shouldnt enter a game with the intention to be excellent?
Of course we play every game intending not to make ANY mistakes.

Anyway,i dont want to argue with you. I hope you read my first post again and try to understand what i meant about performance.
Sorry if i offended you.
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Obviously the team wants to play well and doesnt make mistake, but the degree of that depends on who we are playing against as well. The stronger the opposition, of course the more likely they can counter our play and force errors from our players. Similarly, we try our best to disrupt opposition's game play and as such, they end up not performing.

My point is, our performances doesnt just depend on ourselves, it depends on how well opposition play as well. So to criticize the player's performances because they faced a strong opponent or opponent who themselves played well isnt fair. If you still cant brain this, then i dunno what else to say, that sentences is simple enough.
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post Sep 16 2011, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Pain_X @ Sep 16 2011, 04:13 PM)
We all know this,trust me,every football fan knows this. But we are Manchester United,wouldn't you like to think we have to ability to play against any team and counter their play? Don't you have the confidence in our players being able to rise above or at least play at the level that the opponent is playing at? Because i do. I believe we have great players who SHOULD be able to match up with any other team in the world. And that is why the PERFORMANCE of the team was disappointing on Wednesday,because the team did not rise to the level required. Im not asking for a massive scoreline,most of us arent. All i want is the team to play with energy and to perform better and im not gonna sugarcoat it,but the play especially in the first half was very mediocre and even boring to be frank.

That was the main point SAF made when he was asked to comment about our Champs League final last season. He wants the team to raise the level. He said it himself. All im saying is that i agree with him. The games against Arsenal and Bolton were FANTASTIC. Above expectations.

So,obviously our opponents on a certain day matters. But keep in mind that being able to challenge every team and compete against their strengths is what champions are made of. That is all.
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the bolded part, it applies to "Every Single Time" is it?

i think your post sums all your expectations up. 1 less-than-convincing game, and you claimed the player failed to live up to expectations. 1 game, and they disappointed you. Thats why i ask you, and maybe some others, to maybe skip the rest of the season because there will be more of such games. your expectation is that the player churned out great performances every single time. Well let me tell you this, they wont be able to do it every single time, and thats what being a champion is all about: getting results even when not performing.

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post Sep 16 2011, 08:39 PM

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point it out? by saying "I am disappointed with the performance" and "the match is so boring"? and this contributes to a discussion how?

whenever someone talk about some of you lots being difficult to be pleased, then all these criticism without proper reasoning is called "discussion". Not discussing about what went wrong, or not discussing about how to fix it, but rather discuss about what you feel. and what will happen if this 1 game becomes 38 games of such performances. Feel disappointed, feel bored. For me, i call that whining and complaining nod.gif

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post Sep 17 2011, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(smudger14 @ Sep 17 2011, 02:15 PM)
I don't know what's all the fuss of the draw that some of you guys have opinion with....For the record, when we play away in UCL, the team tend to be very tactical compared to when we play at OT. Chill guys. Draw is acceptable smile.gif Lets look forward to this Sunday's game rather than talking about a game that has pass on a few days already. I'm really excited in looking how we take on Chelsea.
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nah its not about the draw. it's about the performances.

If the performance is good, then there will be fuss about the draw though.
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post Sep 17 2011, 08:02 PM

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i do not know a lot, but while share prices are quoted at per piece ($50 per share for example), i thought there would be a minimum amount that you buy, for example 500?

So i dont think you can buy 1 share of Man Utd for $50 (example price). Otherwise if the club is made into 1m shares, then there will be a lot of "shareholders", hundreds of thousands perhaps.
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post Sep 17 2011, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Sep 17 2011, 08:06 PM)
its in lots ke apa ntah but it all gets more confusing when they put terms like primary la 2ndary shares la etc etc.but maybe this maybe a sign of change is coming and the yanks think they need to spread out the debt/control and thus one day paving the way for us to go back to the plc days.
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QUOTE(CasaNova™ @ Sep 17 2011, 08:20 PM)
the shares hold no ownership rights so i guess its alright to have thousands of shareholders.

i'm not sure about singapore but i know in malaysia is that you are allowed to buy 1 lot, for example a share may cost RM50 on the share market which translates to RM5000 in real term and not many investors can afford that. so they're allowed to buy 1 lot, which is 1/100. Hope i got this right.
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i see, depends on the R&R of the local share market and the company itself perhaps?

Sometimes i hear ppl talk about shares, they talk in hundreds, maybe they really dont do with 1 or 2, being businessmen they are hmm.gif

But if one can buy just 1 share, then why not? though then again there's another issue of voting shareholders and non-voting shareholders, ie. Not all of the shareholders have the right to vote for any decision that the board makes.

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post Sep 17 2011, 09:52 PM

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funny la u guys. Arsenal lose, laugh. Liverpool lose, laugh. City lose, laugh. Chelsea lose, laugh.

no wonder all of them agrees our fans are the worst.
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(flare66 @ Sep 18 2011, 09:07 PM)
I have a question for you guys...

Do you think Micheal Carrick should play?

My answer is NO cauz his been disappointment.
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My answer is YES. because if he plays then you would be trolled. and i like seeing that.
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(lauwy @ Sep 18 2011, 10:15 PM)
3-0 with 9 men... can just check in livescore.com.. u purposely troll them a whistling.gif
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u are wrong, its's 4-0 tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 11:50 PM

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Rooney 2 more! make it 3 consecutive hattricks!!


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post Sep 19 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(likeicare @ Sep 19 2011, 11:21 AM)
I am on the other hand, thinks that Evans has improve tremendously this season
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I am on the same hand as you. I think Evans is back. Compare to last season he has improved, so obviously that's something worthy to praise. In his first season, he has Rio or Vidic to guide him. Especially Rio, u can always see Rio pointing to Evans during defending or attacking a corner. But this season, when Vidic and Rio is out he is the one marshalling the defense. How is that not better than first season?

Ppl always see the bad side of things. Oh, forget to track Torres for the first goal, bad player. But u never weight that mistake to other good deeds he has done. Not that Torres is easily marked anway, despite his goal-shy form he is still a great forward who runs between space, great international defenders would have problem with him, let alone Evans. Don't forget he used to be Vidic's kryptonium. And Evans is bashed because of one or two runs that Torres made.

Please, appreciate him for his improvement rather than look down on where he is now.
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post Sep 19 2011, 02:42 PM

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Freaking hell...

Going to the extend of screenshot player's fault just so u can prove urself, so eager to prove him bad and yorself right? It's one thing to identify bits and pieces that can be improved, it's another to take that bits and pieces and say he is no hope while ignoring the large chunk of his contribution and potential.

Nobody is denying Evans can do better in certain circumstances. But doesn't every player? Nani can make better crosses, Ando can make better passes and better composure, Rooney could have laid a better pass to Berba in the last chance we had. But only Evans are at fault?

Just admit it, you memang don't have a good impression of Evans and is just finding fault with him. Stop using "identifying errors" as an excuse.
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post Sep 20 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Rhadykall @ Sep 20 2011, 01:24 PM)
I would like to blame our player, what's his name... Oh yeah it was... Oh wait... You're not allowed to talk about anything negative in here when it comes to the team... My bad. Ok, care bear mode on! Trolololol.  whistling.gif
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Huiseh.

Somehow this comment made u look very smart. Not sure how, but yeah...
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post Sep 20 2011, 03:20 PM

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it was in 2009-2010, 3rd round FA Cup.

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