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DrBlueBox
post Dec 1 2011, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Dec 1 2011, 04:54 PM)
gonna do some research first. if couldnt find anything more maybe after work go hunting at challenger the mines.
HD pn HD la sad.gif
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Good luck then.
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post Dec 1 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(kembar4 @ Dec 1 2011, 09:40 PM)
Decided to get the U2412M and P2312H combo. A 16:10 and 16:9 delight. So i'm covered both ways if necessary. Haha .

Should be a problem right using 16:10 and 16:9 monitors side by side?
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post Dec 2 2011, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(kembar4 @ Dec 2 2011, 01:10 AM)
No wonder you mentioned that the movies / shows that you watch have weird aspect ratios biggrin.gif
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Nope. I do not span my monitors. They are extended, thus movies/software runs on one monitor without bothering the other. What I said about aspect ratios are modern movies usually are shot in 1.85:1 or 2.40:1 ratio. Thus it does not matter if you are using a 16:9 or a 16:10 monitor. they will still be black bars.

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post Dec 2 2011, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(kembar4 @ Dec 2 2011, 02:03 AM)
This would depend on the source , and of course how its encoded. Anymore further and this topic would become illegal if you know what i mean. Anyways, from my experience, bluerayR  whistling.gif have been utilizing 100% of my old 16:9 1080p monitor, no black bars.

Btw, how do i treat the 2 monitors as separate monitors? I mean, the desktop would extend to the 2nd monitor as well, but when i maximize a window, lets say my browser, would it be maximized across the 2nd monitor as well? If it does, how do i stop it and all other applications from maximizing to the 2nd monitor?
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By default windows uses extended mode. It means your monitor keeps each individual settings. What you are describing is expand mode, where multiple monitors are used as one large desktop. But you CAN'T use expand mode UNLESS you are using 3 exact same monitors (nVidia surround/ATi eyefinity).

Anyways on blu-ray movies, most of the ones I watched (from original blu ray disk mind you) are Anamorphic wide-screen, thus it's not 16:9

QUOTE(Hornet @ Dec 1 2011, 09:30 PM)
Thanks for the suggestion about the issue I posted earlier.

I've tried reducing the contrast, indeed it helps with the brownish tone. However, it seems my monitor have the contrast set to 70 by default, even with brightness set to 100 already. Reducing it to 50 improves the color, but it looks dark. Its as if they increase the contrast to make it look brighter. doh.gif

Check the auto light level all off. Looks like there's no way to further increase the brightness on this monitor. Now I leave the contrast at 60
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You can manually set the color for your monitor. Go to screen resolution --> Advanced settings --> Color Management
Click on "use my settings for this device"
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post Dec 3 2011, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Private.G @ Dec 3 2011, 06:48 PM)
My testing on U3011 is great thus far. Just watched 1080p Cowboy vs. Aliens (with video birate >10Mbps) in a fully darken room yesterday night and the effect was spectacular. Besides I also tried to playback different kind of video source with different quality just to see whether there is any real differences. Here's what I have come up with thus far.

For those whose intention of purchasing Dell U3011 was entertainment, i.e. watching movie, you would probably consider the following points which I had listed down below:

1. If most of your movies are DVD rip or BD rip with video bitrate < 2000Kbps, it will looks very worse on the screen. 720p with <5000Kbps will look nice only if you sit from a distance greater than 1m. Else you would noticed some blur. U3011 is able to upscale 1080p movie (with bitrate >10Mbps) to 1600p very nicely in this case and the picture looks amazing in every single aspect even when sitting at a distance of ~0.8m in my case.

2. When play back 1920x1080 resolution video on full screen mode, there is a black bar of 2cm each on the top and bottom. For me I make use of these black bar by displaying subtitle on them rather than overlay it on the video itself. So not a huge deal for me here. However, not all 1080p movies has 1:1 AR, most are encoded on weird AR (e.g. 1920x8xx). In these case these black bar will be much thicker. The 30' compensate it.

In short, U3011 will display your 1080p blu ray movie in its full glory. Movies which looks worst when upscaled on Full HD display will looks even worst on U3011.

Just my 2 cents. smile.gif

First of all what monitor panel are you using now? TN or IPS? If it's IPS and you haven't noticed any ghosting, then I would say Dell U2312HM will suit your needs nicely with additional RM100-150.
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Only TV shows uses 16:9. Movies are usually 1.85:1 or 2.39:1, thus your so called "weird" ratio encode.
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post Dec 5 2011, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Dec 5 2011, 02:05 PM)
Personally tested U2312HM.
All I can say is... same shit with other IPS.

In simple, if you're going for gaming, don't go near IPS.
IPS or TN, personally think doesn't make any obvious differences.
IPS has wider viewing angle, so what?
When we're using sure we'll adjust the LCD facing directly to us, right?
Unless you're doing yoga while surfing, then different story already.
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Dec 6 2011, 09:13 AM)
Have you try the in game graphic settings?
I realized that those suppose-to-make-your-graphic-nicer settings will disturb the input-lag. (for PC)
I forgot the exact setting to minimal the input lag but I feel these are the keys.
- Vsync: Off
- AA: Off
- Framerate: Fixed
Try out and see again if its the setting kacau, I'll give you a more detail settings after work. smile.gif
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Vsync is a notorious lag inducer for FPS, Fighting and racing games.
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post Dec 8 2011, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Dec 8 2011, 12:09 PM)
Wanted to ask, does Display Cable helps in my case?
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wait. what? Did you mean Display Port?

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post Dec 8 2011, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Dec 8 2011, 12:37 PM)
Yea cable for Display Port is called Display Cable with the capital D I believe. laugh.gif
Windows 7 should be supporting this right?
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Nope. Windows is 8 bit max. Only Mac OS X is 10 bit IIRC
My bad, it does
http://www.ronmartblog.com/2011/07/guest-b...-bit-color.html

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post Dec 9 2011, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(kembar4 @ Dec 9 2011, 02:42 PM)
Hey guys,

I've just received 2 monitors from Dell. The U2412M and U2312HM.

Currently The U2412M is number 2 but set as my main display while the system detected the U2312HM as monitor number 1, i had it demoted to secondary monitor.

The U2412M is currently in Landscape mode @ 1920 X 1200.

The U2312HM is currently in Portrait mode @ 1920 X 1080.

Mode: Extended display

Drivers are installed for both monitors.

My questions:

1) On windows desktop, If i were to use my mouse to move to the next screen, perhaps towards the top of the 24", it would seem as if there is an "invincible" wall that is blocking my cursor from moving to the next monitor. I have to move it lower to get it to go to the next screen. On the 23", Its the same, but since the monitor is in portrait mode, the "invincible" wall seems to be longer. How do i eliminate this? Or is this a limitation? (I tried setting both monitors @ 1920 x 1080 but its still the same.

2) When I start a game, and the game is running full screen on the 24" monitor, my cursor cannot access the 23" monitor. Is there a way for me to be able to use the 23" while a game is running full screen on the 24"? It'll be easier to search for walk through / read stuff / chat (Steam) while the 24" is occupied.

Thats all for now. smile.gif
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1 - Right click on desktiop --> Screen Resolution. See the monitor that is shown? You can drag them so that the placement will be the same as the physical monitor, thus eliminating the invisible wall issue

2 - No unless you are running windowed mode
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post Dec 9 2011, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(kembar4 @ Dec 9 2011, 06:04 PM)
My first impression for both the U2412M and U2312HM.

First:

The packaging irritated me. Slightly easy to take out, but I couldn't figure out how to put the polystyrene casing back into the box. So the boxes ended up in 1 cupboard and the polystyrene casing ended up in another.

Setting up was quite easy. Plug the USB cable, the DVI cable and the PowerPlug. The Monitor Holder slided in with easy and is quite sturdy.

Make sure to install the driver from the monitor provided in the Disc.

So far everything seems fine. Will add more if you guys request for it.
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post Dec 17 2011, 06:21 AM

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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Dec 17 2011, 01:18 AM)
look for 3d monitors...should be a good ones for u to look..
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Viewnet store on the 3rd floor is showing the Samsung S23A950D. IMO that is the only real 120Hz shown in lowyat. All the other 3D monitors are not real 120Hz and you will get none of the benefit.

IIRC, only 3 real 120Hz monitors are sold in Malaysia officially. the S23A950D, S27A950D and the Alienware OptXâ„¢ AW2310
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post Dec 21 2011, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Dec 21 2011, 12:21 AM)
Guys, I'm searching for an LCD/LED screen below rm1k,max is rm1.2k la. If possible 3D. Quite interested in AOC e2352Phz and Envision P2373dL. Can anyone recommend me and provide who sells the monitor as well tongue.gif
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Nah, 3D is overrated. Unless you want a 3D monitor that can do Real 120Hz (Samsung 950D series or alienware optxtm aw2310) I suggest to ignore 3D monitor altogether as you can get better monitor for that price from Dell. Anything that is not using Dual Link DVI/Display Port is not a real 120Hz monitor (HDMI 1.4 don't have enough bandwith) and basically you are wasting money on an overpriced 60Hz monitor. Anyways since your budget is RM1.2k, I'd say the Alienware monitor should fit in your budget
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post Dec 25 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Dec 25 2011, 11:19 AM)
stuttering 3D is damn painful to eye in cinema, the feeling is not so pleasant, anyone of you use 3D monitor with 120hz before? mind share some of your view?
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Using the Samsung 23A950D. Honestly tho I hate 3D, and in most cases it's not worth it. Thankfully the 120Hz makes the monitor smoother, especially in gaming
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post Dec 25 2011, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(logit85 @ Dec 25 2011, 10:50 PM)
yah i want buy new TV 1080P 1920X1080 FOR FULL HD i can connect PC TO TV like DVI TO HDMI then i can set 1920x1080 that mean full HD 1080P
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Google it. The monitor IS a FULL HD monitor

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post Dec 28 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Dec 28 2011, 11:07 AM)
The Alienware doesn't come with a 3d glass right?So what do you recommend for the budget of RM1k?I want to connect it with my laptop, makes it dual screen! Or should I just go for LED TVs?
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Alienware comes with nVidia 3D glasses, but then you need an nvidia card to make it work. If you are using it not for gaming, then Viewnet is selling the Acer HS244HQ 3D monitor for RM800 (give or take)
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post Dec 29 2011, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(Firdaus92 @ Dec 28 2011, 08:14 PM)
My laptop uses GT540M. Can use right??I might upgrade to another laptop soon, using GT555M 2GB version. Still can use it right?You're sure that the Alienware comes with Nvidia 3D Glasses??
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Yes. it does come with the glasses
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post Dec 30 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Gemini @ Dec 30 2011, 12:28 PM)
Between LCT/LED monitors and LCD/LED TV, which 1 is better to be used as a PC display? a 32" LCD/LED TV nowadays cost around only RM1.5k while a 24" LCD/LED monitor is already RM1.2k ....
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LCD/LED tv are cheap since they can't get the same level of sharpness that a PC monitor could. Try reading a text in a TV monitor and it will end up being fuzzy and pixelated

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post Dec 31 2011, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Dec 31 2011, 02:10 AM)
If you're talking about the AW2310, no it does not come with 3D glasses.
I'm using 1 and I didn't get any 3D glasses in the box.
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It doesn't? I thought I saw the glasses included in the website. My bad then sad.gif
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post Dec 31 2011, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Dec 31 2011, 02:45 AM)
The nVidia glasses only bundled with 3D M17X I believe, oh and 3D L702X which Malaysia doesn't have.
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Ah, also since I saw two people selling 2nd hand of the AW2310 with the glasses included I thought it does came with the monitor

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