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REDShaun
post Sep 12 2011, 02:12 PM

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A lot of people has mentioned that Stoke city plays "anti-football". Defending with a bus parked at the goalmouth.

I seriously don't think that is the case. It's almost a tactic that could go both ways. It is as much a risk playing defensively. We couldn't put the ball behind the net, Stoke followed their tactic of being spartans defending the overpass and yes, bodies, hands, legs and heads were flying to block the shots and it worked. We can only rue our missed chances but we should not be berating a full attack from our boys for not trying their hardest.

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post Sep 12 2011, 02:23 PM

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The one thing I do not agree with KD is the referee not giving us the penalties. Yes some teams would feel that winning penalties win you games, but in truth, we did not win it because we did not put the ball into the net. plain and simple.

Criticising the referee is a spur of the moment thing and having 2 questionable decisions against his team, sometimes it's just hard to swallow. but watching from where we are, we did not need the penalties to win it. it was just one of those days and there will still be those days because a few club plays this tactic week in, week out. It's a gamble is all I can say.

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post Sep 12 2011, 08:54 PM

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have a look at Kenny's interview,

the media played it to its full end saying he ranted. he didn't rant or raged, he's demeanor as always is one of class, and it's more disappointment than what the media headlines are screaming and trying to make him a villain to the FA which is sad,

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26...7168590,00.html

select KD's interview at the bottom blush.gif

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post Sep 13 2011, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 13 2011, 11:34 AM)
Ranting and raving eh? Well whatever it takes to sell more copies right? What is more frustrating is people usually only read the headlines without going through the content.

Here's what he said,
How is this a rant? If anything, it's the opposite. He isn't b****in or whining. He's making it clear in no uncertain terms that he will do all that's necessary to protect the interest of the club, by going through proper channels instead of making a public outburst. He did not focus on a particular incident neither did he mention a particular official.
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what's there to say mate. the media just likes to make a good guy look bad. it's the same story everytime.

at least as fans we stand behind what we know to be the truth and shun what we call "media hype" nod.gif
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post Sep 13 2011, 07:58 PM

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i'm angry that we are angry at our own players smile.gif
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post Sep 13 2011, 09:59 PM

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"Dalglish’s primary objective upon his return was not to win the Premier League, it was to secure the right to play in it again this season. That’s how bad it was under Hodgson. By reinvigorating the club so quickly, perhaps he has raised expectations too soon."

^ This...

I think it wasn't his fault to raise the expectations. But i think its the fans fault for not realizing the realistic goal of the club this season. I think its the fans fault for not understanding all that has transpired. I think it's the fans fault for not bother to read up the news from the correct source and reading too much into media hypes.

Kenny is doing a great job. period blush.gif
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post Sep 15 2011, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 14 2011, 04:48 PM)
I just think that a little perspective is needed. It's natural to one to do one over our rivals but it is at the same time important to note that they've been at the pinnacle for 2 decades now and Fergie has been there even longer. We're years behind them from a commercial aspect as well. Man City on the other hand have gone down the galatico route by splurging. We are adopting a very prudent approach and will only reap the benefits in a few years time. We can hope to challenge but it's unfair to criticise Fenway Group, King Kenny or anyone should we not. I'd rather a slow, concrete progression over instant success any time of the day as I feel the former is more permanent. We're now working on the foundations - improved sponsorship deals, healthier revenue stream, proper grooming of youth players, elevated commercial value, etc. Challenging for the title this season will be a bonus, nothing more.
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and that is the Red Gospel truth smile.gif
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post Sep 16 2011, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 16 2011, 11:41 AM)
Going through the sports section of the Star each day has proved to be a frustrating experience. Day after day I read mancs having a go at us which I guess should be expected. I held back my urge to respond to the SMS entries until I came across and article today written by a seasoned 37 yr old manc. I sent this in response. Hope it gets published.
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All i know is the majority of those fans basically resort to heckling or ridiculing history of other clubs, either saying they have none or they still live in it.

It's normal I guess when they are still up there in the clouds, but woe the time when they come back down to earth, what then? they too will be living in their history of saying that they were winners of "insert your choice here" over how many years, etc etc.

History is what defines us, if they are too shallow to understand that, then too bad. it means their progress is baseless because they have no history worth looking back from blush.gif

I embarassed a few manc fans at a drink session the other day becos they was a just a glorified digweed becos i seem to know more of their club than the 3 of them combined. LOL,hence plenty who jumped on the bandwagon over the last 5 years, so you can't blame them for not wanting to know the history of their clubs as they actually don't, not bothered or just there as long as they are winning it. doh.gif
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post Sep 17 2011, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 16 2011, 12:57 PM)
Well, I could say the same thing but I won't. Why? Because they are many types of fan and it's not for me to judge them blush.gif
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exactly, but most fans need to learn to shut their gap if they know close to nothing except maybe the names of their strikers or the numbers. don't go into a football club discussion and boast you know a lot when it's easy as hell to tell when you don't. after a few questions about a wee bit of history and some news about the club recently and all i here is
silence... then to me, that is golden.

go learn up about the club i say, it's easy peasey these days with the internet you have news, rumors, general knowledge etc. i had to rely on the radio and tv on radio4 and rtm1 "road to wembley" anyone? and my dad helped out too since he works there too. doh.gif

you don't have to be a super fan, just a fan that don't embarrass the club you support especially in front of a rival fan. thumbup.gif

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post Sep 20 2011, 05:13 PM

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no excuse for the match over the weekend. we were outplayed, outgunned and definitely outfoxed by Harry. but very much 50% has to come from the wrong tactics selected before play.

everyone knows RB position trying to man mark Bale is a mighty feat. Skrtel was the wrong man for the job - period. Flanagan "might" do better (maybe not). But Bale was given too much space and we weren't able to control the likes of Parker and Modric for giving us the run around. to be fair Lucas played very well, without him the end results could have been worst - fact.

now there are positives (maybe i am optimistic) and it was because of this wrong tactic, we either get stronger or we implode like Arsenal. but then again i highly doubt that would be the case. we can see that the front with carroll + suarez will not work, KD had to try it, it could be to finish off any doubts he or the players has about that combination. Kuyt + Suarez or Bellamy would have worked with a quick pacy team like Spurs. We are likely to lose some confidence but to quote "doom and gloom" is too much i would say.

There is a nice little article about our performance thus far and it's a good read. here's the link:

http://www.empireofthekop.com/anfield/2011...r-just-5-games/

I don't think our players are below par, and i am very sure there is a reason they are bought. I am no football manager but I have seen the lot of you criticising Lucas way before the praise started to come in. I have also seen Xabi endure some manner of flak before he started to gel and spraying diagonal OMFG crosses around the pitch.

Fans are a funny lot, they praise the team to no ends when the results are going good without realising that when results stops "all hell breaks loose" and it's 2012 disaster movie once again.

KD got the tactics wrong, the RB couldn't cope with Bale, our midfield was missing and the ref.. well to be fair he was doing his job (bias maybe but i doubt it). Like Kenny said, Spurs played great, don't take that away from them. we were taught a football lesson and its a lesson well learned if we can pick ourselves up - for both the fans and the players icon_rolleyes.gif

YNWA!
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post Sep 21 2011, 09:14 AM

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asking a bunch of trolls not to provoke is like asking neanderthals to walk straight with their spine up smile.gif

It takes years for them (trolls) to evolve. most are just starting from a uni-cell state (see their comments) so don't bother with a bunch of amoeba talking or trolling in our thread. Just press the report button.

Anyway tonight's game would be a good one. Brighton are no pushover especially in their homeground. If i am not mistaken Brighton is also sitting 3rd on the championship. not easy indeed.

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post Sep 22 2011, 10:18 AM

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why are people blaming carra for that penalty. he did what he had to do. it was a gamble, the mistake wasn't his in the first place, it was Spearing's.

enough with the Carra bashing. he cleared a lot of balls for us in this game. seriously guys, i am no carra fanboy but to keep berating him is pointless. he is still a reliable figure in the center and tempered with the youth we have, he commands the defensive line. who do you think can do it? Agger, Skrtel?

YNWA


Added on September 22, 2011, 10:21 am
QUOTE(daryl23 @ Sep 22 2011, 03:39 AM)
altho brighton is no premier league team, they are high riding in the championship and mind you our defence still look very shaky. i think come january or next summer, we need another solid left back. enrique imo isnt up to the standard of the likes of ashley cole and evra. gutted that we didnt get clichy but then again how can we compete with the money that mancity offer and champs league football. coates looks off the pace of english football, thank god he's only 20 and i'm sure he'll adapt in time to come. the lad nvr played football outside south america..
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you sir have got to be kidding. shakehead.gif

Enrique has more than proven himself in the first few games in the season and has more quality and speed than most leftback in the premier league. he hit the ground running, gel with the team on the get-go and most importantly contributed crosses better than some wingers that we've seen.

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post Sep 23 2011, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 22 2011, 10:11 PM)
and guess where we got the $50 million quid from? thanks for buying a lemon, moron.
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don't think it's a Chelseafan.. if they didn't know where our 50 mil came from. probably a manc in blue skin too cowardly to post on his main.

and yeah, don't feed the troll in any case. blush.gif


Added on September 23, 2011, 10:06 amon another note, we will be hosting Wolves on Saturday. Don't really see any problems getting the points if we are to play the way we played against Bolton. Kuyt and Suarez to start and we'll be dancing with wolves instead smile.gif

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post Sep 24 2011, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 24 2011, 08:26 AM)
hmm.gif is this what you call biased thinking? Rivalry is one thing but having to blame manchester for every single trolls in the thread just proves how pathetic you are.
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it wasn't even an accusation to be fair smile.gif

it's not called biased thinking when most flames or baiting this side of the thread did come from the Mu's fans. wait to be fair most flames and baits comes from you guys all over the thread, in the Barca thread, Arsenal thread, Chelsea thread.. oh wait definitely the Mancity thread blush.gif , history in lowyat forum basically see infestation since it started.. i guess even you couldn't deny the glaring fact. and why is a single quote above offensive to an MU thread that keeps spewing hypocritical crap about LFC daily? are you butthurt with just one line? doh.gif

stop calling people pathetic when you should go pointing fingers at your own for giving yourselves a bad name. so run along and don't let the door hit your butt on the way out whistling.gif

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post Sep 24 2011, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 24 2011, 08:52 AM)
funny we do have people stalking and waiting to pounce the moment something about them is mentioned. jeez.
anyways a lot of people, as much as they're getting the ammunition to fire a salvo at Carra, are praising Lucas. The only thing now is to have someone who can work with Lucas, in out.

rotation policy, anyone?
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I have a feeling KD will stick with the squad with Bellamy (may or may not) be starting. Kuyt would definitely be my pick and Carroll should come in as an impact player. I am hoping Kelly takes back his rightful place on the right and then it would be great to have Captain marvel back in the camp to link up with Lucas.

i know we lost 2 games already but I still feel so excited waiting for the matches. It's so damn different from the previous season. tongue.gif

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post Sep 25 2011, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Sep 25 2011, 02:25 AM)
Fergie time now. Lets see the ref if he has the balls to blow the whistle
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He can't, he is holding up the "Till we score" magic card blush.gif

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