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aressandro10
post Nov 13 2011, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Nov 13 2011, 08:02 AM)
what are the aspects making the Indonesian League better than us? enlighten me  hmm.gif

all i know their corruption (generally) are worse, they have more imports players.. if i not wrong, one club are allowed 5 import players.. and they have more passionate fans..
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their politics also more twisted than us too.. of the corporate kind.. rclxub.gif and doh.gif

the latest development from Indo is their league will start this 26th Nov with the previously illegal breakway league IPL became the top league and ISL became the second league...

this prompt clubs aligned to previous PSSI management who are forced to resign to stage a boycot and refuce to join the new league... this new rebel faction include Bakrie Group who owns Pelita Jaya Kerawang FC.

they already issue official letter of decline to join the league and the punishment for this likely to be banishment to the regional amateur leagues. Yes. Safee Sali will be playing with amateurs next season with a salary of the most expensive import in Indonesia.

currently i myself remain sketchy about the form of their league pyramid. What i understand is the top league is IPL...followed by new ISL (old ISL is now illegal)... and then regional amature league...

i think their football is in the midst of the painful revolution stage to become better and professional... but still..their politics is rclxub.gif and doh.gif

Added on November 13, 2011, 4:38 pm
QUOTE(aweeff @ Nov 13 2011, 03:27 PM)
the best result is both of them draw! so our journey to semi will be easier.
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our route to semifinal is easier if Indo beat Siam...

our route to final will be easier if both of them drew...

if i were to choose i would prefer the former. i would rather threat the last match vs Indo as dead rubber by fielding reserves and catapult our energy in the semis than risking a burnt out after a do or die match vs the host.

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post Nov 13 2011, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Nov 13 2011, 11:03 AM)
klu Indo kalahkan Thai, mungkin Thai dah xbape semangat masa lwn Sin nanti, sbb kemungkinan mereka dah terkeluar dr saingan waktu tu..

petang ni mmg klu boleh kena pulun Kemboja. atau sekurang2nya dpt menang margin 2++ gol utk padamkan kelebihan gol Sin. Sin kuat mcmn pun, mungkin xleh belasah Thai.

aku xkisah sgt klu kalah pd Indo pd peringkat kumpulan, yg penting layak semi. tp kemungkinan utk kita confirmkan tmpt di semi sblm lwn Indo agak tipis sbb byk kemungkinan boleh berlaku.

so, take it game by game. just beat what in front of us..
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sbb tu aku mengharapkan malaysia dapat mengesahkan tempat ke separuh akhir sebelum lawan indonesia. kalau tidak, mungkin singapura/thailand layak. bayangkan, malaysia lwn indonesia adalah perlawanan terakhir peringkat kumpulan, selepas singapura vs thailand. jika ketika itu malaysia belum layak, mungkin perlawanan ini jadi penentu siapa ke separuh akhir. dengan malaysia berhadapan dengan indonesia di tempat lawan, bermain di bawah tekanan untuk ke separuh akhir, mcm2 boleh jadi. mungkin singapura x boleh belasah thai, tp siapa dapat menjamin keputusan malaysia vs indonesia? ketika itu, kalau keputusan sukan sea pada 2/8/1999 berulang, naya je
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post Nov 13 2011, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Nov 13 2011, 10:45 AM)
there are many points can be brought up to discussion. 1st n the most important thing for me is that they have lots of 'professional' football clubs, NOT FOOTBALL ASSOCIATIONS in their league, which are played in 5 DIFFERENT PYRAMID LEVELS week in week out. From here alone we can see that they have a big number of pool that can be selected for their national team compared to us. since we only have numbers of state's football associations and a little number of football clubs, the option that we have for our national team is very2 limited. i guess we can calculate the number ourselves aite.

my 2nd point is that by having more passionate fans, they can bring more bigger sponsors compared to our league. i dont think that there are international companies out there that would like to sponsor our FOOTBALL ASSOCIATIONS or even our MALAYSIAN LEAGUE n guess wut, persebaya even got sponsorship from microsoft. n companies like yamaha, honda are fighting with each other to sponsor persebaya. with good ingredients, u can cook a good meal. with good management n marketing strategy, we can be like these indonesian clubs. but i dont think it can be achieved in my life time pun. f*#k.

its always important to have import players in the league. there's no league in the world that prohibited import players other than our BELOVED MALAYSIAN LEAGUE. import players -> increase league standard -> increase the competitiveness level -> increase the crowd attendance -> generate revenue.

there's a nice article that is worth reading n maybe it can give u more ideas on the importance of having better PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL CLUBS n PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUES. cheers.

http://tronohtranquility.blogspot.com/2009...icara-bola.html

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boring baca tulisan lucius..hipokrit la dia..
kejap malaysia menang kata malaysia bagus.. (lepas menang AFF)

lepastu kat blog sokernet malaysia main mcm bangang kat sea games
kalau ikut pendapat aku..team OKS main lagi cantik (tak semestinya lebih effektif) dari team RG yang rigid

aku tak kata Malaysia main bagus..tapi...

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post Nov 13 2011, 05:03 PM

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excited to see how Yong Kuang Yong will perform today..
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post Nov 13 2011, 05:14 PM

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1 - 0 dh eh? ada streaming link x?
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post Nov 13 2011, 05:19 PM

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1-0 ... the delivery from Yong was sooo sweet that even izzaq farrris cant miss...

Added on November 13, 2011, 5:20 pmi like the way we are playing.. patient and the goal will come..

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post Nov 13 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Nov 13 2011, 04:57 PM)
boring baca tulisan lucius..hipokrit la dia..
kejap malaysia menang kata malaysia bagus.. (lepas menang AFF)

lepastu kat blog sokernet malaysia main mcm bangang kat sea games
kalau ikut pendapat aku..team OKS main lagi cantik (tak semestinya lebih effektif) dari team RG yang rigid

aku tak kata Malaysia main bagus..tapi...
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Biase la tu. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Bagi aku, his ideas mmg sgt2 relevant n patut diketengahkan for the sake of our football. Kritik tu perlu utk improvement. Anyway, aku setuju team oks main better football than rg.

Nazmi ni main cool gila. Rugi kalo stuck main kat msian league je.
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hahaha... Badd dah berapa kali dah try dipping long shot camtu lwn laos, singapore dan siam..tapi kali ni baru leh score.. 2-0

dan first time jugak padang Bung Karno bantu kita.. selama ni bounce pelik padang tu buat slek jer..

Added on November 13, 2011, 5:43 pm3-0 ... penalti badrol bakhtiar...

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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Nov 13 2011, 06:32 PM)
Biase la tu. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Bagi aku, his ideas mmg sgt2 relevant n patut diketengahkan for the sake of our football. Kritik tu perlu utk improvement. Anyway, aku setuju team oks main better football than rg.

Nazmi ni main cool gila. Rugi kalo stuck main kat msian league je.
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post Nov 13 2011, 05:44 PM

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wan zaharul nizam kurang menjadi la.. kalau boleh aku nak tgk OKS ganti dia ngan Zubir Azmi dan push Asrar naik left wing...
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post Nov 13 2011, 05:45 PM

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aku tgk malaysia main rilek giler ...

aku rasa team OKS kali ni agak konfiden lwn kemboja ..

agak bagus la kalau konfiden ..cuma yg aku risau jgn ilang fokus .. jgn tiba2 je ade kad merah, tros seri je ngan kemboja ..haduih ..
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post Nov 13 2011, 05:49 PM

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ada stream?
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post Nov 13 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Syfq @ Nov 13 2011, 05:49 PM)
ada stream?
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http://www.rtm.gov.my/LiveStreamingTV1/
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post Nov 13 2011, 05:52 PM

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haha 3-0 liaw biggrin.gif
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post Nov 13 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Nov 13 2011, 04:57 PM)
boring baca tulisan lucius..hipokrit la dia..
kejap malaysia menang kata malaysia bagus.. (lepas menang AFF)

lepastu kat blog sokernet malaysia main mcm bangang kat sea games
kalau ikut pendapat aku..team OKS main lagi cantik (tak semestinya lebih effektif) dari team RG yang rigid

aku tak kata Malaysia main bagus..tapi...
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hahaha skali tengok gaya penulisan lucious ni dah mcm abang heck ..

tkpe la pendapat dia .. mungkin 1 hari nnt bila dia jd presiden FAM, kita akan nampak la reformasi bolasepak malaysia, reset to zero ..kene tunggu lagi 50 tahun lg la baru merasa kejayaan diperingkat asia, ..

dlm liga-M yg skarang ni pon rajagopal dah buktikan something, ..so terpulang pd pendapat masing2 ..

mcm aku penah ckp la ..idea mcm2 .. tp blom ade lagi otai2 bekas pemain bolasepak tu sendiri yg bukak blog and luahkan pendapat diorang, ape yg perlu ada, ape yg perlu diperbaiki .. etc ..ni semua sbb takut pd FAM, nnt tak dpt cari makan ..hehehe

berbalik pd game tadi, .. player no.21 nazmi mmg cool giler ... kita tgk nnt bila lwn indon, or kt semi-final, ..bila tempo permainan dh semakin laju n bila kita kene leading ...kalau dia still cool mmg aku respek la ..serapkan tros dlm skuad senior ..
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bagus betul budak nazmi ni main.rajin cover defense.boleh lari naik atas lagi.
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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Nov 13 2011, 05:32 PM)
Biase la tu. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Bagi aku, his ideas mmg sgt2 relevant n patut diketengahkan for the sake of our football. Kritik tu perlu utk improvement. Anyway, aku setuju team oks main better football than rg.

Nazmi ni main cool gila. Rugi kalo stuck main kat msian league je.
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yes everyone has their own opinion..tapi kena tgk situasi football kita mcmana.

aku lebih prefer dengar idea2 dari bro macam arressandro yang sebenarnya MEMANG tgk local football berbanding some 'creative' people who only comments based on football structures in other countries.aku tak kata idea dia x gempak..tapi mcm aku cakap..kena tgk keadaan sekarang.

history, politics, financial, etc etc too many to elaborate.

anyway malaysia main rilex2 je nampaknya..

some reserves yang tak main dah boleh masuk utk 2nd half.

YKY as Zainal said not adventurous but he contributed 2 out of 3 goals rite now. need to push up his game a lil bit more if he want to snatch that position from <not fakri saarani> lol
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Nov 13 2011, 05:03 PM)
excited to see how Yong Kuang Yong will perform today..
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tp style dia main ni mcm takut je nak dribble and beat opponents... still tunggu2 member ..OKS suruh main mcm tu ke?
kalau kunalan tu , pantang dpt bola ..berdesup larikan bola .. cuba letak mahali main winger kanan hehehehe...
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QUOTE(mdnosz @ Nov 13 2011, 05:56 PM)

berbalik pd game tadi, .. player no.21 nazmi mmg cool giler ... kita tgk nnt bila lwn indon, or kt semi-final, ..bila tempo permainan dh semakin laju n bila kita kene leading ...kalau dia still cool mmg aku respek la ..serapkan tros dlm skuad senior ..
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rugi pulak kalau dia stay kat liga M je,
tapi kalau nak main luar around asia ni mesti akan ada skeptikal whether a player coming from this country can really provide them something

bawak2 la Tony Fernandes trial dia sikit dari Safee Sali or sibuk nak amik beckham keh keh keh laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

at least budak ni kena main better league than us. Somewhere around Asia.


cuma panas darah tu boleh nampak la..unnecessary tackle, no wonder first game AFC u19 qualifying haritu dia kena red card..hehehe
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QUOTE(mdnosz @ Nov 13 2011, 05:59 PM)
tp style dia main ni mcm takut je nak dribble and beat opponents... still tunggu2 member ..OKS suruh main mcm tu ke?
kalau kunalan tu , pantang dpt bola ..berdesup larikan bola .. cuba letak mahali main winger kanan hehehehe...
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betul tu geram ada gak dgn si mahali ni malas gila kot nak turun bila dah naik..dah dia nak main atas apa kata bg je main situ...sempot YKY 3-4 kali kena cover tempat dia
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