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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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trencher10
post Sep 15 2011, 09:48 PM

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Yeay! Gold falling! Boo! Bank tutup esok!
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post Sep 15 2011, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Quinn @ Sep 15 2011, 10:22 PM)
Already profitting over 1000 pips.
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That one long term yo.
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post Sep 16 2011, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(o0o0 @ Sep 16 2011, 11:34 AM)
Not la, I invest for long term...

I'm just regret that I buy in too early.. sad.gif
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I also dun like to buy in until it hits a sweet spot. But last time gold hit 100 day MA was in june.


Added on September 16, 2011, 11:58 amIf someone can explain the recent trading sell off, i will opt for buying more before ben speaks!

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post Sep 16 2011, 11:22 PM

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We've read of gold and inflation. But what of DEFLATION? This piece was written in 1996, at a time when gold price history charts show stagnant times.

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The full report in the attachment.
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Sep 18 2011, 10:24 PM)
So which is which?

This report came out on Sept 14:
Stocks rally on hopes for Greece

Then this on Sept 16:
Europe default risk signal flashing red

Barely 2 days after the Greece-would-achieve-fiscal-targets feelgood news, we're back to Greece-near-100%-default doomsday warning  tongue.gif

While its almost certain if euro collapse, gold & silver will rocket to the skies, but what about the China factor? What happens if China & the rest of the BRIC injects massive capital to save euro? What would be the effect on gold & silver? Bearish outcome while massive rallies for the share market?

Whats the possibility of BRIC intervening to save euro?

Can China and the other BRIC nations save Europe?

Added on September 18, 2011, 10:29 pm

i did mention if investing above 1000gm ma, thats 1kg ler. mana tau we have some millionaires here who thinks 4 - 5kg are peanuts. the fella might be so grateful of my recommendation he spends me a few grams as commission  drool.gif
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Speculate on the hordes of people who follow these news as their yardstick for precious metals accumulation. Tomorrow morning maybe sharp jump spikes.
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post Sep 19 2011, 08:49 AM

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And add EUPANIC if EU -GR !
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:03 PM

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The Gold Deja Vu article seems more of a chart technical analysis than having the underlying reasons explained, and having those analysis to overlie the current contemporary period. While informative, it seems incomplete under current scenarios.
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:26 PM

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You know, I wonder why we can't use gold as capital for investment in general market devices, WITHOUT converting it to fiat currency.

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post Sep 19 2011, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 05:40 PM)
Because gold is never a medium of trade/exchange.

When you go to restaurant to eat, can you pay with 1g or 2g of gold?
Can be pay with 1kg of gold when you buy a house time?
When you make credit card payment time, can you say to the bank, I pay with 10 g of gold?
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Ay, there's the rub!
Why can't I pay someone with a unit of exchange that does not lose its intrinsic value?
Modern fungibility and divisibility be a curse!
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 05:51 PM)
Last time 1kg of gold can buy you a bungalow.
Now 1kg of gold is not even enough to buy you medium 1000 sqft apartment.
Tell me how it is not losing "value"?
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I think that's ignoring the most obvious of all real estate truths and obfuscating it with gold.
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post Sep 19 2011, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 19 2011, 05:58 PM)
It just mean that real estate prices have inflated faster than gold
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Well, I was referring to the adage: location, location, location.

Though that too ties to : Inflation, inflation, inflation! (can also replace with speculation)
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post Sep 20 2011, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Sep 20 2011, 05:16 PM)
all keep in swiss bank..
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Swiss bank already not uncooperative tax haven.
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post Sep 22 2011, 09:15 AM

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Yep, looking at Ichimoku it's quite a comprehensive tool for the discerning short-term investor who seeks to actively profit at peaks and build stocks at lows. However, like any other investor, some people just follow absolute price points as its much easier to notice and act upon. I'd get inte Ichimoku if I have the patience but I'll just use me simple moving average line. smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:58 AM

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Do you guys think we're seeing a deflationary situation happening vis a vis the USD and gold? Seems awfully rapid for deflation to occur, though panic could account for significant part of gold sell-off.
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:04 AM

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The hype has finished off the small fries? Damn, I missed the 1900 mark then! Coulda pocketed a cool 2000. But driving to banks just for deposit and withdrawals are wasteful too.
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post Sep 27 2011, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(jphlau @ Sep 27 2011, 01:03 PM)
Edit: There's a lot of panic in the markets on Gold and Silver at present, but the educated people know this is the biggest BUY opportunity of 2011!
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But I still cry.gif when I did not sell at 1900 USD! Though the buy opportunity now would only net 15 g more only even if I sold at peak blush.gif .
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post Oct 1 2011, 01:19 PM

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For some reason, the fall in gold prices seem to follow a pattern of achieving a volume if comparing the price lines to a 100-day moving average. The sudden jump in gold prices coupled with the recent sell off still seems to obey the volume similarities between the periods of rise and falls, but I don't have the graph's exact numbers to confirm this technical validity as its just an app I use on my WP7.
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 9 2011, 12:58 AM)
In his book Basic Economics, Thomas Sowell[62] argued that, in the long-term, gold does not hold its value compared to stocks and bonds:

    To take an extreme example, while a dollar invested in bonds in 1801 would be worth nearly a thousand dollars by 1998, a dollar invested in stocks that same year would be worth more than half a million dollars. All this is in real terms, taking inflation into account. Meanwhile, a dollar invested in gold in 1801 would by 1998 be worth just 78 cents.
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That is ... if the system actually holds up. How come this line keeps repeating itself? The most basic of understanding, if taken for dogma, becomes useless in the real world. Maybe people who had stocks and bonds in the bankrupt banks of Barings, Lehman since their inception are worth more when at the ends of their institutional lives at bankruptcy!

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