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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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kevyeoh
post Sep 26 2011, 02:45 PM

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the problem is you do'nt know when you need the cash urgently...
if so happen there's emergency and you need the money when the price is at low point...u still have to sell at a loss...


QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2011, 02:20 PM)
2 possibilities,

1) Strengthened USD
2) Drop in demand (go check the market situation in India and China as they are the biggest consuming nations of gold)


Added on September 26, 2011, 2:21 pmGold is a doom day money.
You are not supposed to sell it (unless you need the cash urgently).
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post Sep 26 2011, 02:50 PM

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within 50 mins...the buy price at Public bank goes from RM163 to RM158... fulamak...
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post Sep 26 2011, 02:50 PM

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can...i manage to sell...

works for me...

QUOTE(OneBuck @ Sep 26 2011, 02:48 PM)
And another miracle happen. I cannot log in to Public Gold website....!

Every seller is now panicking... phew..phew...phew... tongue.gif

This is the reality guys, when they make money, they allow you to buy, but when there losing, they simply close shop.  doh.gif
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post Sep 26 2011, 02:57 PM

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weird...i feel happy see the price drop now...although i still got 10 gram stuck in my account to maintain it..hahaha....
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post Sep 26 2011, 04:10 PM

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that is my plan lor...

QUOTE(vincentwmh @ Sep 26 2011, 03:32 PM)
+1..cut loses and buy back in at cheaper w/ more grams
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kevyeoh
post Sep 26 2011, 04:17 PM

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this is one advantage of using online public bank to purchase gold... no need to waste time and effor to go to bank...
and also you can buy/sell quite fast...

just now got ppl say the website cannot login and sell...but no issue for me...

QUOTE(junhaussen @ Sep 26 2011, 03:42 PM)
just  went to CIMB, wanted to buy, they still quote at 169....  doh.gif
forget it....
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kevyeoh
post Sep 26 2011, 04:31 PM

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i agree...but this are the pros and cons lor...
so it's up to the investor to decide to go with UOB or online...it's a matter of personal choice...

sometimes u wanna rush to buy also need time and effort...like when you sell also cannot sell immediately...have to go bank..queue... and god knows...1 hour can make big difference....

but on the other hand... UOB spread is RM2 only right?

so it's personal choice.. personal decision... most of us already shared all the options available...

QUOTE(buysell @ Sep 26 2011, 04:26 PM)
+1 but PB online trade spread no good compare to UOB hmm.gif
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post Sep 26 2011, 07:32 PM

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There is a word for this.. Called denial...

QUOTE(Quinn @ Sep 26 2011, 07:26 PM)
If price is below your buy price already mean you lost. If it never recover, so are you going to say still no loss?
Very wrong & misleading concept.  whistling.gif
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post Sep 26 2011, 08:31 PM

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Quinn,

My noob... Started to read on ichimuku today.

Graph 1 and 3 still bearish..

Graph 2 still not yet breakout for reversal pattern?

Means next few days still going down?

Thanks in advance sifu.


Added on September 26, 2011, 8:31 pmBtw.... I no look hammer... I look atbasic chart first

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post Sep 26 2011, 10:43 PM

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lets face it...this is an open forum and anyone can post anything... i don't see anything wrong with sharing...or if you disagree, just give your reasons...

i think all of us here are 'mature' enough to read ourselves and decide on our own which input to take....

i think everyone is free to give their comments... and if you're interested..just continue to participate in discussions....

i'm starting to read up on michimoku and now got this pulak... ish... potong stim nia....
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:21 AM

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i don't think the scenario you paint here is likely la..that means it will continue to spiral down until zero..then yes...his method of cut loss will end up no value...
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but realistically...will it ever reach that low?

my personal answer is....no... although nothing is 100% sure in this world.... but 99% no chance of it happening...

QUOTE(kakiayam @ Sep 27 2011, 10:05 AM)
yes i know what u mean. What i mean is, if u keep repeating to cut your losses, in the end you got nothing to hold in your hand except the gold saving passbook with no value. RM6.91 per gram, lets say u have 20g in your account. You will loss RM6.91x20g= RM138.20. When the gold price drop and you keep 'cut losses', in the end you got nothing left except the gold saving passbook. I just let u know what is the difference between buying physical gold and paper gold smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 01:08 PM

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so can you please help educate us?
i don't understand why print more money can be a good opportunity for gold?

are you saying that due to inflation...then gold will increase price also ?

QUOTE(jphlau @ Sep 27 2011, 01:03 PM)
America will print more money, they have to, their higher dollar will force Bernanke's hand. America needs to export their manufactured goods not be able to buy more cheap goods. Every American bank is carrying overvalued assets on their books. Fiat money is stuffed. Hyperinflation or deflation is what we have to look forward to, this marketplace is broken along with the tools to participate in it.

Edit: There's a lot of panic in the markets on Gold and Silver at present, but the educated people know this is the biggest BUY opportunity of 2011!
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post Sep 27 2011, 02:51 PM

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+1...only if you're the person who is not emotionally stable and keep on buy/sell according to price? hahaha...like me...

but long term folks...they don't care i guess...those who keep and hold...


QUOTE(mcdkfc @ Sep 27 2011, 02:43 PM)
If your location near/easy to go UOB, you are advise to buy there. Otherwise I suggest at Public Bank. Have a facility to buy online. Save your time, fuel cost, easy to manage etc.
As an example yesterday, I got to cut loss (maybe more profit) by selling when the price still high and buying again at lower price. I think without online facility we can't do that unless your daily job is buy/sell gold.
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post Sep 27 2011, 04:23 PM

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dang...i thought wanna buy RM15x...now price go up again...

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post Sep 28 2011, 02:11 PM

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Hmm...this 1 to 2 years is very misleading...

when i take a look at the gold trend for the past 30 years...

what i see is from 1982 until probably 2005, if you bought it at 1982 and you sell at sometime before 2005, you might not even earn anything...the price was pretty flat below USD500/ounce....
in fact...you might lose money.... and that's how many years we're talking about? if you have saved the money in FD in that period with compounded interest, i'm not sure if the FD might even yield more return than the gold capital gain...

so to those who even think that you will earn if keep 'long' term 1-2 years... u better consider properly...

good luck ...

QUOTE(mingophoria @ Sep 28 2011, 11:32 AM)
long term investor no need worry about this things mah...... buy gold save 1 or 2 years.....later u  look back your gold 1 - 2 years later u laugh.... lol....this statement is to scare away short term investor only...haha..... rclxms.gif
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post Sep 28 2011, 07:47 PM

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Hi donnie,

Only if you buy and hold for 3years. Read my post again. If your long term timing is wrong, not necessary you will gain.

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[quote=donnie.brasco,Sep 28 2011, 03:05 PM]
[quote=kevyeoh,Sep 28 2011, 02:11 PM]
Hmm...this 1 to 2 years is very misleading...

when i take a look at the gold trend for the past 30 years...

what i see is from 1982 until probably 2005, if you bought it at 1982 and you sell at sometime before 2005, you might not even earn anything...the price was pretty flat below USD500/ounce....
in fact...you might lose money.... and that's how many years we're talking about? if you have saved the money in FD in that period with compounded interest, i'm not sure if the FD might even yield more return than the gold capital gain...

so to those who even think that you will earn if keep 'long' term 1-2 years... u better consider properly...

good luck ...
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I dont know where you got that info, but from the history shown here Gold Price History , the 30 years trend is increasing.

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post Sep 29 2011, 11:41 AM

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no point continue arguing about flame or no flame... it will be great if we can just share information..

either news or info from other website..
or
technical chart analysis
or
gut feelings sharing

whatever it is...just share and everyone can take and choose which inputs...

i missed the earlier thread on buysell vs quinn conversation but i won't waste my time go dig back and read....

lets just continue with the open discussion...even if it's a baseless or no data information kinda of thing...still just share it out and maybe explain why you think so...

for me...i just start to read up on ichimoku...hehe...based on my 2-3 days old knowledge...and what i understand from the chart... it's still in bearish situation...

on my personal gut feeling...i feel very uncertain now because as what i have pointed out earlier in the 30 years gold trend history...only in recent years the price really shoot up like mad and who knows how far and how long this trend can sustain? Will it happen like sometime in 1981 or 1982 when it shot up quite high in price and then it crash...and for many many years..the price is pretty much flat and doesn't really improve? will it happen? no one knows...

so my personal plan at this moment...wait and see.... i don't buy yet...

my personal gold trading record: made a loss of about RM400+ ?

so hehe...i'm just adding up a post in this thread...

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post Sep 29 2011, 05:58 PM

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err... the range is like 163x to 161x.... i don't consider that small drop as a freefall ler...

QUOTE(vincentwmh @ Sep 29 2011, 05:41 PM)
gold free fall aft 5pm, asian market tutup...very clear indicator lo
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post Oct 2 2011, 07:14 PM

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the price flat around 16xx region... personally i'm not sure which direction it's heading... so just sit at the sideline and look see look see...

QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 2 2011, 04:16 PM)
This thread is slowing down after price drop...
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post Oct 2 2011, 11:58 PM

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tradition? since small... at least..i'm educated to think that gold is precious...
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but sometimes i realize...if you go back to the time...when you don't use money.... barter trade...i think i will trade food for food...not gold for food... gold cannot eat..haha

QUOTE(buysell @ Oct 2 2011, 11:20 PM)
Does anyone here know why gold is so precious? Is it because of the color and the purity? or human said so?
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