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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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bigwolf
post Sep 8 2011, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(pierre3388 @ Sep 8 2011, 12:41 AM)
is everyone here trading the gold via bank?? mind to share??? newbie here....hehe smile.gif

thanks in advance...
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dunno about others la but my standard is bank only nia. any commodity traders here? laugh.gif
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post Sep 9 2011, 12:01 AM

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ok time to ask the expert's here, what are your opinions regarding his analysis:

http://majormarketmovements.blogspot.com/2...g-9811.html?m=1

I've followed his works a bit and he seems to be quite accurate but if its true then we might see some huge corrections by Friday/Monday?

There's a lot of uncertainties now what with all the conflicting reports & analysis whether gold & Dow Jones are going up or down rclxub.gif
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post Sep 9 2011, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Sep 9 2011, 02:29 AM)
sigh bro..haih..gold is for long term investment. if u really want to buy. just buy it. dont care much about the first few weeks of going down. its normal. becoz at the end. it will going upwards. save for 4-5 years or more.
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Wrong mate, we cannot simply buy la even if its long term. If you can buy cheaper very soon then why buy expensive now? You accumulate less gm like that. Example:

If you have RM10,000 and gold is RM180, you'll buy 55 grams. But if 1 day later gold dropped to RM177, the same RM10k can get you 56 grams. Better to wait 1 more day right?
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post Sep 9 2011, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(hariz.zaki2 @ Sep 9 2011, 08:00 AM)
in a different scenario, what if 1 day later it went RM183?

at that time you're gonna regret.

you gotta broaden your thoughts
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Yup, I agree with you. Thats why need to ask the sifu2 here what are their opinions, as well as read & do your own analysis. Price of gold is VERY volatile now, so have to be VERY careful, don't simply buy hoping to jump into the band wagon.

But so far seems like not many wants to share their opinions... sad.gif

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post Sep 10 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Sep 10 2011, 11:23 PM)
aduihhhhh..... doh.gif

but then again, if someone just walk up on me and ask me to buy it for RM150, I'd say no oso ler... 'So f*****g cheap!?!?!?!? FAKE LAR' would be what I'm thinking.
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post Sep 10 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Sep 10 2011, 11:49 PM)
Yeah. If someone offered RM50 for 1oz gold coin I would give him RM100 to follow me to go to a gold shop to test whether it is real biggrin.gif
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ya hor, good idea brows.gif
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post Sep 11 2011, 06:53 PM

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@chengcheng

In BERSIH the crowd just stand there kena gassed. In THIS case ar, I think they'd break thru tear gas n chemical spray and batons oso la. I know I'll do that laugh.gif

@buysell

1 troy ounce = 31.1034768 grams. So usually counts as 31 grams or 31.1 to be more precise smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2011, 07:38 PM

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It was like 10 years ago, when gold was selling for RM45 per gram lust.gif

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110910-701487.html

Would be an interesting week ahead if the 3 banks really got downgraded. Any thoughts on which direction gold will move?
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post Sep 13 2011, 12:23 AM

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What I don't understand is how is it possible euro market crash = euro currency crash but US market crash = USD still goes up? Are investors buying USD so much that it goes up despite its market crash?


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post Sep 13 2011, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 13 2011, 07:21 PM)
The USD will not stay high for long. Its in America's best interest to keep their currency low and the Americans are good in doing that. The dollar will drop soon.
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Its possible gold will trade sideways & USD continues its uptrend until 20th September.
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post Sep 13 2011, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Sep 13 2011, 09:28 PM)
Is it possible to check USD to MYR conversion rates on UOB website?
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http://www1.uob.com.my/personal/useful/price_rates.html
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post Sep 14 2011, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(lee90 @ Sep 14 2011, 11:08 AM)
huh? what's that means? how come uob is selling more than the actual price ($1840)? blink.gif
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USD1,840 x 3.11 = RM5,722.40 per oz
RM5,722.40/31.1 = RM184 per gm cool2.gif
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post Sep 16 2011, 11:08 PM

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damn, missed the boat liao. was hoping gold to go down the whole weekend so can buy more from uob on monday tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 18 2011, 06:35 PM)
MBB & CIMB doesnt provide online trading the last i checked about 3 months ago.

UOB peculiar - when i called them and asked about their Gold a/c, they said that not only have to physically go to a branch BUT also hopefully that branch U go to has not sold out its gold yet. BTW, i was very very firm and specific about gold a/c, not gold bars.
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the uob staff must be dreaming while talking to you laugh.gif no problems with opening gold account, like another forummer said, you only need to open a savings a/c only and can buy oledi. if you're investing above 1000gm, you can consider the premier gold account. spread is only rm1 per gm, even better to trade
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:24 PM

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So which is which?

This report came out on Sept 14:
Stocks rally on hopes for Greece

Then this on Sept 16:
Europe default risk signal flashing red

Barely 2 days after the Greece-would-achieve-fiscal-targets feelgood news, we're back to Greece-near-100%-default doomsday warning tongue.gif

While its almost certain if euro collapse, gold & silver will rocket to the skies, but what about the China factor? What happens if China & the rest of the BRIC injects massive capital to save euro? What would be the effect on gold & silver? Bearish outcome while massive rallies for the share market?

Whats the possibility of BRIC intervening to save euro?

Can China and the other BRIC nations save Europe?
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Although China premier Wen Jiabao confirmed at a World Economic Forum meeting Wednesday that it may step up its purchase of European debt, nothing is set in stone



Added on September 18, 2011, 10:29 pm
QUOTE(o0o0 @ Sep 18 2011, 10:04 PM)
ya, the spread of UOB Premium Gold account is extremely attractive!

BUT initial investment is 1KG, AND trading unit is 1KG!!
means that every time buy in minimum must be 1KG gold, sell out must minimum 1KG! (1KG gold = ~RM 180,000)
not much ppl have this ability trading in "2 Honda City" unit.  tongue.gif
even have the ability, also no guts to bear such high risk...
unless the person planning to invest in long term 10 or 15 years, and after deposit in not going to see / hear / know the gold price,
else... may die of heart attack!  blush.gif
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i did mention if investing above 1000gm ma, thats 1kg ler. mana tau we have some millionaires here who thinks 4 - 5kg are peanuts. the fella might be so grateful of my recommendation he spends me a few grams as commission drool.gif

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post Sep 18 2011, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Sep 18 2011, 10:36 PM)
Speculate on the hordes of people who follow these news as their yardstick for precious metals accumulation. Tomorrow morning maybe sharp jump spikes.
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While my long term goal is to accumulate precious metal, right now I need to speculate a bit to raise the capital required to buy more of them in future ler biggrin.gif

Correct me if I'm wrong, for I'm just thinking my own thoughts here, but I'm kinda worried about the China factor coz it has everything to go for it if it pumps in capital to save europe:

1. The costs of bailing out europe is offset by lowered costs of gold (IF China is really accumulating gold as some speculated)
2. Europe does not goes into recession, which means demand for China goods does not drop

true or false???

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post Sep 19 2011, 10:32 PM

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this is very strange. usually ppl flee stock markets & park their funds into gold. but now both also down? blink.gif

unless they're liquidating gold again to cover stock market losses?
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post Sep 19 2011, 11:16 PM

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if its going to go down, then hope it goes down real gao, best would be low RM17x, then next morning rush to uob laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:14 PM

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1 day drop $20, next day up $20, nuts...
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(mingophoria @ Sep 20 2011, 11:24 PM)
invest in gold is not for the faint of heart.....roller coaster up down up down non stop.... like equity ...if cannot take presure take a slow ride like UT.....if still cannot take... go for bonds....if still wan slower go for FD.....if still even wan slower... keep inside piggy bank~~ anyways....gold mayb dropping again
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gold is supposed to be long term steady investment. only the past few months prices start to swing wildly

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