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teikwing
post Jan 19 2014, 05:24 PM

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Hi all,

This may not be directly related to working in Australia but would like to seek opinions from those who are already there.

Me & my wifey is planning to migrate to OZ in the next 12-18 months and is planning to go over via the PR route aka subclass 187. I am a banker myself (occupation not on SOL) while wifey is a chartered accountant and her job is on the SOL.

Basically, both of us went over to Rayford last week for consultation and it seems that our chances are bright. Both of us scored over 65 points under the mock test points system. Agent advised us to lodge application through wifey and once she gotten her PR, she in turn will sponsor me as a spouse. Total costs involved is about AUD10k for both of us, which includes all fees from skills assessment (6 months), EOI (2-6 months), invitation to apply (4-6 months) and sponsorship of spouse. Our first step now is to sit for IELTS exam and study hard enough that both of us score a band 7-8.

Now, my question is:

1) Given our qualifications above, how likely is that my wife will be selected/invited to apply? Agent seemed very optimistic and claimed that with decent points + occupation in SOL, very high chance. Planning to seek second opinion through another migration agent (probably Global Migrations or Migration Avenue) but asking based on those who went through the same route, what is the likelihood of being selected?

The reason why I'm asking is that both of us do not want to waste our time/hard-earned money should the chances are just 50-50 or even lower. Knowing that it is very competitive out there, probably tons of applicants with same points and qualifications trying to apply as well.

Our secondary choice is Singapore, which PR application is much more straight-forward (cost less as well) and easier to score jobs for both of us.
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post Jan 19 2014, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 19 2014, 07:12 PM)
Can you describe the 65 points that you are getting? Age, Occupation,etc...

Given that you and your wife are legally married then I don't see the point of your wife lodge the application first then only sponsor you. Both can be done in the same application,same time, and same cost. THis is what they called de facto application.

There is no cost of submitting EOI. Actually both of you can do the application without going through the agent. The step is same as what ryant3 mentioned but you just have to prove both of you are legally married which is easy enough.

Again, list out the points and the criteria you met
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Hi hihihehe,

Thanks for the swift reply. Correction on my earlier post (after double-checking my points sheet). Wife scored 65, while I scored 55 (below minimum requirement of 60pts). Below are points scored individually:

Qualification - Bachelor's Degree = 15pts (Same for both)
English ability - IELTS (assuming B7 minimum) = 10pts (Same for both)
Age - 25-32 yrs old = 30pts (Same for both)
Work experience outside Australia - 5yrs = 10pts (Wife only. 0 for me as job not listed under SOL.)
Australian work experience - Nil = 0pts (Same for both)
Australian qualification - Nil = 0pts (Same for both)

Hence the reason why we were advised to apply under my wife, unless I am able to score a B8 for IELTS which will boost up my score to 65pts. But still, with my current occupation not listed under SOL, we were informed that my chances are slim.

Back to my first question in my earlier post, what are the chances of being selected to apply for a PR, assuming one's points is well above the minimum requirement of 60pts (assuming 65-75pts)?

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post Jan 19 2014, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 19 2014, 09:16 PM)
If your wife is a primary applicant then you don't have to meet 60 points.
http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/189.aspx

60 points is the minimum but of course the higher the better so that your application will be given priority(fast processing) than the lower points.

If you able to meet 60 points and above and no issue with your police and medical check then the chance is very very high. I would suggest you to do skill assessment first and see if the occupation matched the SOL.
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Noted and thanks. That's what I was told by the agent as well. Planning to submit docs for assessment by end of the month. IELTS scheduled for early March.

QUOTE(ryant3 @ Jan 19 2014, 09:43 PM)
Hi teikwing, I'm going through the same thing as you are, only difference is I'm going solo and is in the IT industry.

I'm doing it by myself instead of via an agent because their service charges will leave me with nothing to spend if I ever step foot on Aussie soil (about 200% of what you're paying for if you do it yourself).

I have submitted my skills for assessment by the Australian Computer Association and paid AU$450 for it and they expect us to wait 3 months for the results. This portion is quite tedious as you need to get your photocopied certificate of all your relevant qualifications certified by MOHE or notary public only then you can submit for skills assessment

I have also scheduled my IELTS exam next month

I will have to wait for my skills to be assessed and deemed suitable for the SOL that I have applied for only then I can submit EOI

Like what hihihehe said, get your skills assessed first before anything else.

At the end of the day it will cost me about 13k (visa AU$3500, skills assessment AU$450, IELTS RM610, etc ie certification of certs by notary public)
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Hi ryant3. Thanks for sharing. MYR13k is less than half of what I gonna have to pay. Prolly go for the DIY route if I can find the time. Significant savings there. Care to share the process on how did you get your skills assessed?
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post Jan 22 2014, 04:10 PM

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Just registered for IELTS. Exam in March. Gonna get skills assessed by CPA once got the results. Fee is only AUD450 and they have a office in Midvalley to do certification for certified true copies and migration assessment. Glad didn't went the agent route which will costs around the region of AUD3k. Thanks ryant3 on the idea of DIY smile.gif

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post Mar 26 2014, 01:59 PM

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Just to share my experience to those who are applying for subclass 189 with accounting & finance experience. Submitted for skills assessment today. Assessing authority is CPA Australia and fee is AUD445. The process is going to take about 3 weeks and assessment will be done in Australia.

CPA Australia has an office in The Gardens which made things much easier whereby the certification of documents can be done for free and they will submit for you to Australia for free as well.

What you need to do is just prepare the relevant documents ie. IELTS Test Report, testimonials, various certifications, academic transcripts & membership of professional body (if any) and submit to them.

Fingers-crossed there will be no hiccups and I will be able to submit the EOI by early May if possible.
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post May 1 2014, 09:44 PM

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Hi guys!

Just came back from a 2 weeks vacation in SYD and MEL as well. Drove about 2k km in both states visiting the CBD and various suburbs and vacation spots. Lovin' the weather! Despite it can get lil chilly and windy sometimes. The art scene, people and food are just amazing.

First thing I did today after touching down today was submitted the EOI today under 189 and 190. 60 and 65pts respectively. Fingers-crossed for an invitation for the next 1-2 months if possible. 221213 occupational ceiling is 1k for the 2013/2014 programme year and 353 been invited so far as of recent. Job still listed under NSW (closed for the year), QLD, ACT and TAS.
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post May 2 2014, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(underGr0und_8 @ May 2 2014, 11:25 AM)
Glad to hear that ! Hope you get the application approved soon smile.gif
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Thanks mate, Just got a reply from QLD that they are willing to sponsor under 190 should we are able to fulfil the requirements (basically commitment to live/work in QLD, financial declaration on sufficient funds for settlement etc). That's a reply within 24hrs of EOI submission, so efficient! Now just wondering should proceed under 190 or wait for 189, which is more straight-forward. Next invitation round should be next week based on the monthly cycles.
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post May 3 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Soony @ May 2 2014, 07:44 PM)
If possible, you should always get 189 as this route will provide more job opportunities. Unless you have set your mind that you only wanted to stay in Brisbane, hence that is another story.
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Yes I am highly aware of that. But then again, in a lot of a cases, if a visa/PR holder is unable to obtain a job within few months of settling down, he/she is able to obtain an exception from the state government to move to another state.

One gripe I have about the 189 is the longer waiting period (12-18 months vs 4-6 months) and the competition if one only have 60 points. And one will be subjected to the occupational ceiling. But then again, 190 has its disadvantages as well. Gonna proceed with the 190 for now. Thanks for the input.

QUOTE(pookiefoof @ May 3 2014, 11:04 AM)
How many months of salary slip or EA form I need to prepare for the Skills Assessment?
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Varies according to assessment bodies. Best is to check directly with them.
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post Jun 29 2014, 03:46 PM

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Just lodged my 190 visa application today. AUD5,280 in total for 2 person (inclusive of spouse). Looking forward to the good news within the next few months.
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post Jun 30 2014, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 29 2014, 04:26 PM)
whic occupation you went for?
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QUOTE(Soony @ Jun 29 2014, 07:17 PM)
All the best bro! Which state are you planning to migrate to?
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 30 2014, 10:33 AM)
I think the soonest will be within 2- 3 months if your documents all in order and straight forward.
The fastest record i ever heard is my ex-colleague have it in 1 1/2 mths after all documents provided including application.
Good luck my friend! rclxms.gif
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Thanks guys. The average waiting time after lodgement ranges from 3 to 6 months. All my documents were front-loaded (inclusive of medical), hoping for a direct grant.

I have applied under 221213 External Auditor with sponsorship from Queensland.
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post Jul 1 2014, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 30 2014, 10:07 PM)
Welcome to QLD. Bestest and most sunshine state. Been here 7 years, wouldn't rather be anywhere else in friggen Australia.

If you want to rent a house for a very reasonable sum of money, do PM me.
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Great. Shall drop you a PM once I got there. Thanks for the offer.


QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jul 1 2014, 12:26 AM)
question for you, hope you can help me out

what I did was I just did my medical via My Health Dec, before lodging anything (this is for a TR but its application process works almost like a GSM PR)

and after doing my medical it caused some complication in the online system where i can't apply online for the visa

i did call immi to ask for help (that's how i know the reason for the error) but it's been 2 weeks and i don't think the issue has been fixed

not returning to AUS for a few days and can't lodge anything until I am onshore, yet I would like the problem resolved as I start work when I get back and may not have time to make long phone calls

any advice?
I see, not very familiar with this industry
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What kinda complication in your online application you're referring to? Are both systems linked? When I lodge my application, I am still required to key in my HAP ID manually.

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post Jul 1 2014, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jul 1 2014, 07:46 PM)
Thanks for replying.

The complication is an error message saying "you can't apply for this visa online" and basically I'm stuck at a page in the middle, which is 20% progress (now I can't get to 100% or the last page, even tho I could before).

There is the box to key in the HAP ID, which I have, and I think that might be causing the issue. Maybe they are not linked or it is a related error.

If it's not resolved I could try submitting without an HAP ID - when I am back in the country - but this might not be ideal.
Yes it is. Consider yourself very lucky. I may not know a lot about your industry or field of work, but it doesn't sound (to me) like a highly specialised and technical field of work requiring many years of training like cardiology, nuclear engineering, etc. Then again, bricklayer, chef etc are on the list. But the point is that whether it is on the list or not, bringing someone in from overseas is very risky (you may leave anytime as you have few roots in Australia) and presents hassle (time, money, uncertainty and trouble for the visa).

No offence meant to your profession, my job is also office-based and if you're smart you can be qualified in just a few years after your degree. Your age (quite young) also proves that you did not need that much field or work experience. Whereas if someone in Australia needed a pediatric neurosurgeon but was unable to find one then the need to make the effort to get a foreigner is more obvious.
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Would you be able to proceed if the HAP ID field been left blank? Could be a bug though.

QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jul 1 2014, 10:07 PM)
So the SOL list never really changed?
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Not all the states have updated yet. Checked against QLD's list, it seems that certain jobs under 190 can only be applied onshore now, if I understand correctly.

ACT - http://www.canberrayourfuture.com.au/news/...0-visa-program/
QLD - http://migration.qld.gov.au/wp-content/upl...df/190-QSOL.pdf
NSW (to be released in mid July) - http://www.business.nsw.gov.au/live-and-wo...sored-migration
SA - https://www.migration.sa.gov.au/SNOL_data
VIC - https://www.liveinvictoria.vic.gov.au/overs...ts#.U7LUqF75-hO
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post Aug 21 2014, 10:36 PM

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Hi guys, just got my 190 (sponsored by QLD) granted this week. For those who would like to know, my timeline as below:

221213 Ext. Auditor (60 points + 5 points via SS by QLD)
IELTS: 08/03 (exam), 14/03 (passed)
Skills Assessment: 28/03 (submitted), 10/04 (positive)
EOI: 01/05
QLD SS (acknowledgement): 02/05
QLD SS (docs submitted): 08/05
QLD SS (approved): 25/05
Invite: 25/05
PCC: 12/05 (approved)
Medicals: 02/06 (done)
Visa Lodged: 29/06 (All docs front-loaded, inclusive of Form 80 and 1221)
CO Allocation: N/A
Direct Grant: 18/08

Initial entry date is May next year, will have to make a trip to validate the visa. Planning to move permanently sometime in 2016.

Went through everything by myself without engaging an agent. Spent about MYR21k all-in (inclusive of a partner and all related costs ie. IELTS, medicals etc.).

For those who are who like to understand more about the process, feel free to PM or post up here. smile.gif

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post Aug 21 2014, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 19 2014, 02:24 PM)
My question is actually this:

If you qualify based on the points system and can prove qualifications & experience, what are the chances of you getting a Visa 189?
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Chances? Definitely yes. The timeline is highly subjective, depending on your placing in the "queue". The higher points, the higher chance you will be granted earlier. But generally, you are looking at about 60-90 days post visa lodgement for the grant.
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post Aug 21 2014, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(selvenz @ Aug 21 2014, 11:28 PM)
Congrats bro my IEd is dec 19th... Vic ss 190
Pr granted August 13th

IEd early cause I got police clearance way to early dec 2013 lol
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Congrats to you too! Same here mate. I did everything in advance as well hence the IED. It's exactly a year from the date of my PCC. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 22 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 22 2014, 08:26 AM)
Congrates! Plan on the next hurdle, job hunting! Enjoy the lifestyle and sunshine here. rclxms.gif
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Thanks bro nemesis! Been following-up on your new adventure over there. How are things?

Job hunting yes definitely. Definitely need to upskill and learn more about the country before heading over.

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 22 2014, 08:40 AM)
Once u get your Visa 189, does that also mean that you are granted the PR as well?
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Hi cybermaster98, here are some basic information on the few common PR visas available:

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1119.pdf

http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/189.aspx

http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/190.aspx

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This is a permanent residence visa. It lets you and any family members who have also been granted this visa to:

stay in Australia indefinitely
work and study in Australia
enrol in Medicare, Australia's scheme for health-related care and expenses
apply for Australian citizenship (if you are eligible)
sponsor eligible relatives for permanent residence
travel to and from Australia for five years from the date the visa is granted (after that time, you will need a resident return visa or another visa to return to Australia).

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post Nov 24 2014, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(selvenz @ Nov 17 2014, 12:49 PM)
Just returned form a week holiday/activation trip to Melbourne.

Set up accounts, schools for kid , medicare . looking forward for final move April next year.

Gonna be tough, but prepared for the long haul
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Planning to make my visa validation trip April next year. Mind to share how do I go about setting up accounts & Medicare? Do not have kids atm so that can be exempted for the time being. smile.gif

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