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SUSlokop
post Sep 15 2013, 03:16 PM

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I want to work there as waiter . Got stpm cert only. Can? How to migrate? Need agent help me with the documentation?
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post Sep 15 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(snoopdog17 @ Sep 15 2013, 03:31 PM)
very difficult. the only option i think is holiday work visa.
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Mean the visa will last few month? Then have to leave
Australia ? If I want continue stay how? How to apply?
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post Sep 15 2013, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 15 2013, 08:01 PM)
Yes, but if u wanna overstay, they'll blacklist u and penalise u.
They'll be very strict on this coz too many people overstayed.
I suggest that u go and get a course to study or skill they required. then further to apply for work.
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ACTUALLY i am doing business admin degree course now. this sem my last dy , will graduate next year. so i consider my highest qualification is stpm. and i know that fresh grad want to get admin job in australia is near impossible since they have their local grads which are more skilled. i dont mind the work hours or load, as long as i can land on a job there. i am used to being pressured so culture shock and stress i can easily deal with it since i went thru a lot of these and fully prepared. just wonder can i get land a job there? jobs other than my field is ok as long i am paid.
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post Sep 16 2013, 04:28 PM

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bros. really appreciate what u share with me. u say course isit the english course like the "muet" where australia has its own?
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post Sep 16 2013, 04:44 PM

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saw IELTS will expired? means if i am ready to apply for visa only go for exam? ='((. i wanted to live in australia badly. i went there when i was a child kinda love it =(
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post Sep 16 2013, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Sep 16 2013, 04:53 PM)
More to like a degree course like Engineering. It might not seem as "Ideal" as you think it is, trust me Australia has its downside, things like racism which are common.
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engineering? i am doing a BA degree course now. almost finish studying. YEAH i knew d downside. discrimination is rampant, i had friends studying there. but the mentality is way "awesome" compared with malaysia. they are biased but i think adaptation is the key for long survival in oz. we are residing on foreign soil, so i can expect what might take place in future.
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post Sep 16 2013, 08:28 PM

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how much roughly for the course of like accounting ?
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post Sep 16 2013, 09:43 PM

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Okay. How many years needed to complete the course?
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post Sep 16 2013, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(lil^pig @ Sep 16 2013, 09:54 PM)
http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25901

Almost fell for this. Registered at ausfis.org but did not proceed due to high payment charge.

They actually called and enquire why.

What is the best way to apply for visa to Australia?
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Apply yourself is the best solution I guess its juz a matter of spending some time n understand d requirement. Repost others comment
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post Sep 16 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Sep 16 2013, 09:49 PM)
3 years if I'm not wrong.
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Damn looks like gonna go for fruit picking 1st. Then proceed
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post Sep 17 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(mik@ @ Sep 17 2013, 10:14 AM)
the only visa that you can probably apply for is working holiday visa. Unfortunately, this visa requires you to have a degree at least (well, all other visas require a form of tertiary education but this would be your easiest bet for a ticket to Australia legally for work). Read up more on the Working Holiday visa at http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-ho...-visa-works.htm. This visa lasts for 1 year, yes it is renewable.

There are few ways for you to get a job in Australia but the most important thing is you NEED TO HAVE A VISA first. Of course, you can try to work in Malaysia and cross your fingers,arms,legs,toes that they'll transfer you over to Australia but this is usually only reserved for higher management (read: CEO,CIO, COO) or if you have a very specialized skill that they require. It's not just about your readiness for culture shock. It's more of what you have to offer. And with only an STPM cert, there isn't much.

IELTS will expire 2years from the year that you take. So you need to time it wisely. You can take it at British Council. It's RM 610. There are two streams for you to pick from: Academic or General Training. As you are still studying, they may advice you to take the former as the latter is more applicable for people who are working but I find that the Academic exam is tougher.

On general, I would recommend that you do more research about your options of migrating to Australia instead of wanting to move there because you "kinda love it" as a child. I also liked a lot of things when I was a child because I wasn't paying for any of them. This isn't meant to burst your bubble but judging from the way you posts, it appears that you are only trying to increase your post count.
Yes, you MUST take IELTS before you apply for the/any Australian visa. It is valid for 2 years before you need to retake, should you decide to apply for the visa. For the IT field, it depends on which specialization that you are going for. The Level 1 support is currently being outsourced to other Asian countries e.g. India, Malaysia. If you are in a niche market e.g. programmer, you may still have a choice.

Are you applying out of Malaysia and without a visa, Australian contact number and postal address? If yes, your chance is near zero (if not zero) of even being short listed.
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miko , thanks lot for ur advice. i'm not into post count just that i didnt know that this post can edit where i can reduce it. may i ask u a question that may sound silly ? let say i successfully get a working holiday visa and after working for a stipulated period, are my chances of securing a visa brighter? just curious
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post Sep 17 2013, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 17 2013, 10:14 AM)
How are you go for fruit picking? What's the visa you're applying for that job?visa 457?WHV?
Must beware on any agents who try to trap you for your money. I saw many people fell into this so called fruit picking job by paying large amount of money.
They'll say they guarantee you a job and visa to work in the local plantation. But you've to pay for large amount of money to get the job. Later, he'll disappear and you'll later put on newspaper for saying you being cheated.
People who worked in plantation must not SICK! No medicare available for them! Minimum working hours is 10hours.
I must say again, try not to take this risk. It not worth it.
Try to apply on the legal way.
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i am sorting out with my friends now. probably go in a group of 4 people. do u have any recommended agent? i realise that the purpose of hiring agent is to better understand the rules and regulations on visa application.
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post Sep 17 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Sep 17 2013, 01:06 PM)
no such thing as 'brighter' after ur WHV.. and WHV is only valid for a year and a lot of employer (professional like IT) are not keen on hiring you since ur visa is temporary and u can only work for the same employer for 6 months (if its still the same rule) again.. read the details on the DIMIA website..

you still need to meet the requirements for the Skills Visa.. (no shortcut unless its Investment/Business visa where you are loaded)

if not you must have all the required points.. and remember that rules and even SOL list changes, so if Accounting is in SOL list now and you are studying accounting now, doesnt mean 2-3 years later (after you graduate) Accounting might be removed coz Aus already have enough of Accountant.. so be updated with the facts frequently..
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QUOTE(annielee @ Sep 17 2013, 01:10 PM)
yes, agents can help in a lot of sense if your case is complicated.. but if yours is straight forward (enough points)
dont waste your money.. furthermore dont trust 100% on agents fact, do your own research as well..

for eg, especially for state sponsored visa where you are required to stay in the sponsored state for 2 years, but agents will normally said that it doesnt matter where you stay.. but in actual fact it does.. as your visa might not get renew.. (unless u have tried and not successful in getting job in the sponsored state and get release from them)
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QUOTE(mik@ @ Sep 17 2013, 01:17 PM)
You can't reduce your post count but you can certainly stop posting single posts for various replies and just quote all into a single one.
Referring to the working holiday visa, if you are going there to pluck fruits (oranges, apples, grapes etc), chances are probably zero (if not zero) of them giving you an actual work visa. As again, the name "working holiday visa" is for you to go there and holiday while working to supplement your holiday. Get it? A working holiday visa is by no means a sure fire, guaranteed gateway to a permanent visa.

At least not for picking fruits.
If you and your friends are planning to go over to do fruit plucking using the Working Holiday Visa, you might as well just DIY. Tedious? Yes. Free? Absolutely. Agents will charge you exorbitant fees. It's only if you are applying for the other visas or even PR that an agent should be a consideration.

However, if you must absolutely get an agent to help you out with the Working Holiday visa, I can help you out for a small fee laugh.gif
But, first of all, complete your degree then you can come back to me to further discuss.

Btw, judging from your posts and content, I'd seriously recommend that you don't engage an agent as you have a high probability of being conned tongue.gif Just my 2 cents wink.gif
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mika, annie thx for the advice. appreciate that.

mika, sure having my last paper on this coming 21st. i think probably will chat with u next year. will find u if we need an agent. cheers
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post Sep 17 2013, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Sep 17 2013, 06:17 PM)
Hey lokop, what is your main intention of migrating to Oz? The way I perceive is that you are thinking by coming over here, you will get rich. Hence, you even resort of coming here with WHV and work in a fruit farm to hasten your process of getting PR. If you are coming here with that sole intention, you may be up for some unwanted surprises if you really got your PR. Oz is not a wonderland like everyone is painting. It has its own problem as well. I believe a lot of lyns have mentioned that in the previous posts like unable to get a job, high living cost and etc.

Maybe you would like to hold your horses and give it a serious thought on what's your main motive of migrating to Oz. Is just my 2 cents worth though.  nod.gif
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Sep 17 2013, 07:55 PM)
My company just sack my GM today. Just feel sorry for him. He doesn't look happy today. Pretty unfair to him. Ozzie company quite ruthless on sacking people
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QUOTE(mik@ @ Sep 17 2013, 09:10 PM)
I think we should summon Pete for some horror stories to freak Lokop out tongue.gif
Ouch! No notice period etc? Is he local or PR?
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naleh. u r partially right . prospect is more accurate to describe.

nemesis. sorry for the news.wish him best of luck in future.

mika. sure. i would like to know something like "a mad man killed students in uni/college" this kind of story only can scare the hell out of me. other than that, probably disaster that struck oz. other than that, i am sure i'm ok. i'm tough aka i can handle all sorts of discrimination,embarassment, pressure etc..........not boasting but thats the truth.
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post Sep 17 2013, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(mik@ @ Sep 17 2013, 10:46 PM)
Here you go:
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/288698/malays...-surgeon-murder

BTW, they do have racial riots, the normal dispute that can get into a full blown fight especially since they are practically giants compared to us Asians laugh.gif But that is if you end up in some dodgy neighbourhood. And when they are drunk sweat.gif
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heard the news b4. dont worry i do gym occasionally , not very muscular but at least loaded with some muscles.......hehe. i am actually 180cm tall. but i guess they are way bigger and taller. anyway i m that kind of sleep early when night falls while those faggots usually roam on the streets during the night i believe. i think it shoulod not be an issue. im not a trouble maker and i do tolerate to avoid trouble in future, so shouldnt be an issue as long as we dont provoke and create enemies.

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