I want to ask everybody, since I hear stories of people migrating to Australia, only to end up being cleaners, petrol station attendees, waiters and librarians.

Would taking up SAP certification be a good alternative for migrant? Is SAP consultant in high demand in Australia?

Since malaysian work experience is not considered, it would be good to start career all over again as SAP consultant.

Australia got a lot of school to teach skills, right? So why not take up SAP.

Is this a good idea? Pays well? What you think?

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True true. To be honest, I hate the dominance of SAP. Because of this stupid software, a lot of people got to learn how to use it, and its application is rubbish, it complicates a lot of things. A lot of IT people just don't understand how to apply this rubbish software.

However, since its already out there, you can't beat them, join them.

I don't want to go there to work as a cleaner, if it is so, I mind as well be in Malaysia. So I was thnking of taking up a new vocation. Since they don't consider my msian work experience, I mind as well start my career from base 1. What better way to start than to take up SAP courses. I don't think Master degrees help that much, they are too expensive anyway and too long to take up.

Yeah but from my understanding, that kind of salary is only for the experienced SAP programmers. What about for those green novices who just passed their SAP exam?

I don't get it. Why is everybody migrating to Aust?

I hear story of some people taking sub standard jobs. If you have to do that, mind as well stay back in malaysia to work.

Nowadays I go to UK/Australia, woolworthes, coles, tesco, mark & spencer, Asda all using electronic counters, only one or two cashiers not like here in malaysia. So want to have career progress in supermkt job also hard.

I also know doctors who migrated there, struggling with 48 hour work.

I don't see the point of migrating there to be a cashier or cleaner.

Like my cousin, an engineer grad, now doing night time magic show. And then another friend of mine who was a senior manager at HP, now working as a cashier.

To be honest with you, Australians don't even consider your malaysian work experience. They think your msian work experience is inferior or probably don't fit their work culture. At least in UK, they do consider your msian work experience because I work there for a while before. I know a lot of msians who work as senior managers here, when they migrate, they work low level jobs like sales girl at the stores, promoters, petrol station attendees.

So, if you find you struggle here in malaysia, australia is much worst, unless you don't mind a 7-11 job.

Sorry i don't mean to sound rude and inconsiderate, i understand that you are struggling to find job and I symphathise with your situation but I don't think Australia is tthe solution.

Shine from a cashier/waiter?

Who wants to make a career out of a cashier/waiter?

If the company employs me as an administrator of a bed & breakfast, a web designer or a golf course caretaker, maybe there is a career to be made from there.

If like this I would rather work in UK, the $$$ is better.

The community there is more tolerable. Nowadyas, I see many black guys holding hands with white girls in UK.

Economy maybe bad in UK, yet I see half their workforce are foreigners. I just came back from a 3 month secondment in London .

Not the first time, Australians seem to like to pressure their asian workers. I don't know if its because they are high performance (but i heard that Aussies are lazy, is that true?) or they just hate Asians. I got a friend who migrated there, worked as a migration lawyer, he was doing ok, except for the incessant scoldings and pressure from his white lady aussie boss, then another friend who works in a bank - she tells me taht because she's asian - she frequently get excluded and the work culture there is whoever is the most popular survives (like Hunger games) and another friend who work as a surveyor tells me that he work for his aussie employer for 3 years but they only made him do paper work for approvals and photostating job - prevent him from going out to do field work because they had more favour for their white workers to do the favouraite assignments.

Oh yes, $50k annually is really high salary, sure my earnings can't match that but cost of living in msia is much lower than Australia. Last time I stayed in Australia was 10 years ago so I don't really know the cost of living there these days. But if you are living in a one room studio apartment, renting for $3000 per month, say in Melbourne, $36k goes to rent annually. We haven't even gone into food cost, transportation, clothing, GST and taxes. $50k ain't a lot for Australia standard.

How to get a visa? Work for a british company where the HQ is in UK. But hey I am not that lucky.

I don't mind changing careers, from my vocation to become a restaurant manager but what if suddenly Australia go into bad recession in 10 years time? Then I've been a restaurant manager for 10 years, out of job, can't find a job? Then have to come back to Malaysia, i find myself in a different league. Restaurant manager aint a big thing in malaysia unless I plan to open my own signature restaurant.

Already the boom in China is slowing down. A forumer is telling us that Perth is experiencing some slow down and he plans to move to other Aussie cities to look for job. Things seem to be unpredictable at the moment.

Then argue back, tell them that you worked for MNC in msia which the work culture very different from msia china man culture. Tell them that the job appraisal system is similar world wide.

Btw when you got your china co work job, is it what you were looking for? Is it in line with your job expectations/skills?

For eg, you are IT grad but you working as a cook (not in line with job skills)

Well, that is what the interview is about...is where you sell your talents to your potential employer.

So justify to them and put out their doubts with your persuasive skills.

Just like how a salesman would try to push his product to his potential customer, you do the same too, because this is your chance.

But if the interviewer still not convince with your points, then let it be, at least you tried.

I've seen indian programmer from bangalore, do a great job but its just that they got bad accent, nobody can understand a word they saying. I've worked in an europe country for a few months, and I can tell you, I've met some colleagues from Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe who can do a better job than the White man counterpart.

I thought you say in an earlier post, you got an interview, the Aussie employer told you that your msian work experience is "inferior".

the answer is simple, its called discrimination n double standards.

aussies thks they r superior to Asian but they actually know crap.

What about accountancy? Is it hard to find?

After 7 years and earning $70k is not exactly the dream job for a migrant who is IT grad. Rental already cost about 20k a year. And we haven't included tax, transport, food and others.

I don't know, man. Lets just say, your wife is an accountant, she lived 7 years in Australia, but not as an accountant, as a supermarket branch manager instead. Then suddenly China economy down, just like in 1997, Australia starts retrenching people, all the PR go back. Your wife returns but she has zero accountancy experience in Australia, she tries to find a job in Malaysia, her job experience is discounted...

These are the dilemnas a PR has to decide. That is why is always safe to stick to what you to best. If you are a lawyer, make sure you work as a lawyer in Australia, else if anything bad happens and you spent too long in Australia, at least come back to Malaysia, you can still practice as a lawyer.

Can I ask you, what is your vocation? Did you managed to get the job that is in line with your specialization?

Its low considering that graduates in Australia start pay is 60k. Aiyah cannot compare to malaysia lah, in malaysia cost of living here is much lower. Yes cars in malaysia is expensive but food here is still comparably cheap. I have lived in cambodia, trust me, malaysia is still cheaper in terms of food and rental.

Yeah that is true. I have a PR but its like I am waiting for it to expire. I am wondering why do I have to go there and struggle to find job for half a year, if I am lucky I find a job that is not my vocation. What is the point for me? I know, people scold me because I don't try. But I wonder if its worth the risk because not one of the story of my friends who migrated there came out success.

I am not saying my job is decent, always got disatisfaction but going to Australia to work? After hearing the nightmare stories, I dunno.

But there are big sacrifices to make if I were to go...like I really miss the food here, the familiarity here, my family at most, my gf who refuse to follow.

I lived in Australia 10 years ago...but the Australia yesterday is no longer the Australia today. The whites are not so friendly anymore. There used to be a time when I sit down at a tram stop or a train station, some friendly Aussie would come by and strike a conversation with me about politics, economics, religion and life. No more, no more, I get very angry looks, as if telling me why are you here? to steal our jobs?

How is it working there so far?

I have a PR fren who work for an aussie builder. But they refuse to give him the job, so he was relegated to doing documentation and photostating. After 2 years, he quit, and went back to malaysia for good.

I hope you don't get the same thing, hope your boss is a kinder person.

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