that V12 fake amp was the 1st amp that I've bought since 6 years ago, and that time was the start of my "ICE" journey..bought it for RM180 and pair it up with 12inch Audioquartz subwoofer in ported enclosure (cap ayam) for RM200..2ch bridged to subwoofer, another 2ch connect to stock speakers..that time i know nothing about ICE, but the sound quality is acceptable and the sub can really hit hard when you want it to..nice memories

don't get too excited 1st..in later stages, you'll soon realized that plenty of $ flyaway and wasted, but you definitely will learn something on past experience mistakes and will improve it in future..it still depends on how demanding are your ears..hehe