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post Aug 19 2011, 11:35 AM, updated 15y ago

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We all know how expensive violin strings can be,
so when trying other/new types of strings it only makes sense to find out if the trial will be worth it...
I currently play with Dominant + Evah Pirazzi Gold E but I'm tempted to try Pirastro Obligato...
so I wanted to know if anyone here has experience with these strings who has also played on,
they could be compared. Thanks!

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post Aug 19 2011, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(ryanconferido @ Aug 19 2011, 11:35 AM)
We all know how expensive violin strings can be,
so when trying other/new types of strings it only makes sense to find out if the trial will be worth it...
I currently play with Dominant + Evah Pirazzi Gold E but I'm tempted to try Pirastro Obligato...
so I wanted to know if anyone here has experience with these strings who has also played on,
they could be compared. Thanks!
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but same string sound diff on diff violin, how to compare? rclxub.gif
currently using tonica but got evah and obligato set of string with me, waiting to change one of these day. just wonder three set of these string can bring how big different. but too busy with work recenly quite long time never practice adi.haha
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post Aug 20 2011, 07:29 PM

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Actually, Evah Pirazzi and Obligato are both high-end Synthetic core strings by Pirastro. The main difference being that Evah offers a bright sound, and Obligato, a warmer sound. Choice would depend on how your violin sounds. For example, my violin, a handmade violin from Germany, has a bright sound especially on the higher positions on the E-strings. But on higher positions on the lower strings, the sound is often muted by the higher strings (had one such experience playing Bartok's Romanian Folkdances). So my choice of strings would be Evah for G and D, but Obligato for A and gold E.

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post Aug 21 2011, 11:29 AM

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ok, put it more simple - i dislike expensive strings cause when strings died my wallet will burst a hole. brows.gif

dominants all the way.
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post Aug 21 2011, 11:49 AM

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Well true. It is really expensive, but then the quality of the strings cannot be denied.
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post Aug 21 2011, 01:25 PM

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dominants are much preferred by many many world class soloists with top level instruments in their hands. they certainly can afford "high end" strings, but i wonder why. unsure.gif
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post Aug 21 2011, 03:27 PM

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Really? Who for example? I know musicians in orchestras sometimes use Dominant because otherwise they will stand out too much but I cannot recall any soloist using Dominant strings. I do know that Joshua Bell uses Evah Pirazzi, Anne-Sophie Mutter uses Obligato.
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post Aug 21 2011, 05:02 PM

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Hillary Hahn and Itzhak Perlman?

For amateurs, unless if the violin is an expensive one, I don't really see much point in using expensive strings given the cost. Having said that, if someone can afford that then it's not an issue.

I used to have the Dominants + gold label E but just switched to Vision Solo recently and like it.
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post Aug 21 2011, 05:09 PM

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Hillary Hahn and Itzhak Perlman use Dominant? Wow thats something new. =) Actually, how much do you people pay for these strings? Just wanna do a comparison with how much my sources get them for.
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post Aug 21 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(juoin @ Aug 21 2011, 09:09 AM)
Hillary Hahn and Itzhak Perlman use Dominant? Wow thats something new. =) Actually, how much do you people pay for these strings? Just wanna do a comparison with how much my sources get them for.
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I live in London so the price may be a bit different.

Dominants (and the Vision Solo I use) about £30
Evah, Obligato etc about £55-60
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post Aug 21 2011, 05:27 PM

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Thats... actually pretty cheap compared to what they sell here... O.o

I know that some centres such as Chambers sell these strings for up to RM300+! The source from which I get mine costs around RM280.
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How much would a set of Dominants cost in Malaysia? About RM150 then I guess?
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post Aug 21 2011, 05:35 PM

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Dominants cost RM150 I think. Tonicas cost RM120. =)
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post Aug 22 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Aug 19 2011, 10:53 PM)
but same string sound diff on diff violin, how to compare?  rclxub.gif
currently using tonica but got evah and obligato set of string with me, waiting to change one of these day. just wonder three set of these string can bring how big different. but too busy with work recenly quite long time never practice adi.haha
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Haha...
i also thinking of Evah Pirazzi, but i am not soloist, so i maybe ignore it.
my research is - Evah Pirazzi can't last long as they mentioned in forum.
first of all i really want to give a shoot.

Currently i am playing Dominant + Gold E..
Just, i think my violin still could sounds better.


Added on August 22, 2011, 12:37 pm
QUOTE(juoin @ Aug 20 2011, 08:29 PM)
Actually, Evah Pirazzi and Obligato are both high-end Synthetic core strings by Pirastro. The main difference being that Evah offers a bright sound, and Obligato, a warmer sound. Choice would depend on how your violin sounds. For example, my violin, a handmade violin from Germany, has a bright sound especially on the higher positions on the E-strings. But on higher positions on the lower strings, the sound is often muted by the higher strings (had one such experience playing Bartok's Romanian Folkdances). So my choice of strings would be Evah for G and D, but Obligato for A and gold E.
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Brilliant^^
You commend was awesome^^
Why i did this because when i play on Dominants D & A, not as good as Tonica, if compared with my last time experience.


Added on August 22, 2011, 12:37 pm
QUOTE(little ice @ Aug 21 2011, 12:29 PM)
ok, put it more simple - i dislike expensive strings cause when strings died my wallet will burst a hole. brows.gif

dominants all the way.
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Little ice,

You such as badass tongue.gif


Added on August 22, 2011, 12:38 pm
QUOTE(juoin @ Aug 21 2011, 12:49 PM)
Well true. It is really expensive, but then the quality of the strings cannot be denied.
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Added on August 22, 2011, 12:42 pm
QUOTE(little ice @ Aug 21 2011, 02:25 PM)
dominants are much preferred by many many world class soloists with top level instruments in their hands. they certainly can afford "high end" strings, but i wonder why. unsure.gif
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One soloist i know recently is Ray Chen..
His combination is -
the G string - Peter Infeld “pi” Medium gauge,
D string is a silver Dominant Light gauge,
A string is an aluminum Dominant Medium gauge
and the E string is a Vision Heavy gauge.

Nathan Milstein: a Eudoxa G&D, plain gut A and Goldbrokat E in the 1960’s.

Zino Francescatti: Eudoxa G, Kaplan Silver D, Eudoxa A and Goldbrokat Medium E.

David Oistrakh: Eudoxa D and G, Prim Steel A (or Chromecore) and a Prim E.

Henryk Szeryng: Used a Eudoxa D and G, a Kaplan A and either a Gold Label E or Kaplan E

Isaac Stern: Used the Eudoxa A, D, G and a Goldbrokat Medium E. Later in his career he switched to Dominants.

Pinchas Zukerman: Used Eudoxas until the Dominants came out which he still uses (including the E, I think...).

Itzhak Perlman: Used Eudoxa in his early career than switched to the traditional combo of Dominants with the Gold Label E.

Hilary Hahn: Dominants with a Gold Label E.

Maxim Vengerov: Used to use Dominants but recently switched to a full set of Pirazzi.

Ilya Gringolts: He uses Evah Pirazzi at the moment.

Joshua Bell: Evah Pirazzi Violin Strings

Gil Shaham: Uses Dominants and a Jargar E (don’t know which gauge).

Midori: Uses Dominants

Stefan Jackiw: Uses Dominants and a Jargar Forte E.

Anne-Sophie Mutter: Dominants with a Gold Label E string.

Cho-Liang Lin: Infeld-Blues

info : http://violin-strings.com/famous-violinist-string-brands.php


Added on August 22, 2011, 12:45 pm
QUOTE(juoin @ Aug 21 2011, 06:35 PM)
Dominants cost RM150 I think. Tonicas cost RM120. =)
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Dominants RM 149.00 - 10% at Euro Music
Pirastro Tonica RM 104 or RM 109 at Euro Music
but Chamber cost around RM 120 + something

Evah Pirazzi at Chamber cost RM 300 + whistling.gif




This post has been edited by ryanconferido: Aug 22 2011, 12:45 PM
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post Aug 22 2011, 12:52 PM

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Well... we all know Chambers over prices their products like..... %^$#%@

Wow this is new info, I never knew this! Thanks!


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post Aug 22 2011, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(juoin @ Aug 22 2011, 01:52 PM)
Well... we all know Chambers over prices their products like..... %^$#%@

Wow this is new info, I never knew this! Thanks!
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You are welcome^^
because i really crazy in love with Violin...
where are you to hold violin class?
juoin
post Aug 22 2011, 01:12 PM

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I teach at a music centre and also privately, but I strictly only teach on one day cause I want to use my other days for studies. =)

I used to teach at Chambers too and seriously... the stuff they say and do sometimes.....
TSryanconferido
post Aug 22 2011, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(juoin @ Aug 22 2011, 02:12 PM)
I teach at a music centre and also privately, but I strictly only teach on one day cause I want to use my other days for studies. =)

I used to teach at Chambers too and seriously... the stuff they say and do sometimes.....
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Oh i see...
that is great!
just pm me if you are still available on your schedule

 

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