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debbieyss
post Aug 18 2011, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2011, 10:34 AM)
Folks,

It is VERY SIMPLE...

There is NO GUARANTEE in life.  YOU have a CHOICE.

A) Do whatever you can to be successful.

B) Do nothing.

You could FAIL either cases.  But, people with (A) has NO REGRET in their lives.  They can HONESTLY tell themselves that they had done their best.  They DO NOT have to ask "What If" when they are old.

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Ok, so when there are forumers post up they have tried their best etc but still fail, then you never tell them "at least you have done your best to pursue, it's ok", instead, you will be the first one to scold them "stupid", know only how to whine, lazy to work harder, aim for comfort zone, unlike 70s etc etc etc.

You are giving contradicting statements here.
debbieyss
post Aug 18 2011, 11:10 AM

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I have always put it in a friendly way and constructive manner, at least i never scold people stupid.

It's just that to people like dreamer, constructive manner is not the way to convince him. One must have real life experience to prove him and, to let him know the real life experience of someone, dreamer must know them in person.


Added on August 18, 2011, 11:13 am
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2011, 11:10 AM)
debbieyss,

I guess YOU are talking about YOURSELF...

YOU are UNTEACHABLE!!!!  YOU know EVERYTHING.  End of discussion..

Stop wasting time and energy on my thread.

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If you don't want to waste your time, then please don't reply my thread. smile.gif
You can choose:
1) Reply
2) Do not reply

No one force you to reply my posts. You have the CHOICE.

And, wheter i am teachable or not is not important to you, i know how successful i am now, my friends know how successful i am, my parents can retired with my monthly income, that's enough. smile.gif

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post Aug 18 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 18 2011, 11:19 AM)
See....that's what i say not friendly manner. It is like you are challenging him. Dreamer has lots more experience than you (although i dont know him personally) and you are young without concrete prove of success, so, why not lie low, and respect the seniors. Perhaps, they can put $$$ in your pocket which you may not know.  Cheers and Cool.. biggrin.gif
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I had this manner in the first place but people don't appreciate. Chinese say "play the piano in front of a cow", which is useless, especially to Mr. Dreamer.

Any way, as said, those who know me well will know if what I'm succsesful or not.
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2011, 11:20 AM)
debbieyss,

LOL.

We ALL KNOW how successful you are....  And, WE know your opinion of YOURSELF.

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post Aug 18 2011, 11:45 AM

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Dreamer may have lots of admirers in lowyat.net but I do not care; I value one person's teaching NOT by how successful he is in material or monetary.

Before I follow and absorb one's teaching, I value his personality and attitude, then only his material achievements in life.
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post Aug 18 2011, 10:42 PM

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1. If you have been giving tuition, if you have been teaching all these years, you will find out that there are teachers holding forged certificates, teaching piano, giving tuitions. If you happen to meet a person who teach without proper qualification, that is COMMON. There are many people buy degree cert and apply jobs nowadays! But I don't share my views without prior real life experiences.

2. If you see my posts showing hatred emotion that can also mean I am telling the fact in this world. Why must you think it's happening to me? Even if I am complaining now doesn't mean that I will sit there and do nothing to breakthrough.

3. My boss has lousy and nasty temper though she is in her 50s now, Senior Manager position, she's trying to teach me the way she handles things but NONE of her teachings work on me. There are many different ways to get things done, everyone has his own way, I believe; with her way of doing things (yell at people to convince others; interrupt people's conversations whenever people sharing opinions so no one can go against her will; fast to judge and slow to listen etc), it makes someone looks "ugly" and unprofessional. I have the choice to choose and I will choose to be the best - be a nice person and able to get things done.

I'm clarifying these not because for my own glory. I just want to share that people with good personality and has great achievements worth our attention much more than those with brilliant life but poor personality.
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post Aug 18 2011, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Aug 18 2011, 02:20 PM)
Yeah..my point is if you have to be selective of who is teaching instead of what is being taught, then you might not learn anything..
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Whatever Dreamer is sharing here, to be honest, I only adopt 30% to 40% of his teaching. No one's teaching is suitable to every one; none of us have the same career path in order to become success. But giving 2 persons to learn from, of course I will go for the person who has personality and achievement equally good. You can yell at people to get things done but what's the meaning if you get people to obey you physically but in their hearts they hate you? Furthermore, even things go well it would only go for temporary.

I would say both of your biology teachers are fine to me according to what you elaborated here. But I would value further as how would they respond if I bring up my questions and ask them in person, would they show annoyance or being patient.

Last but not least, if you follow one's teaching blindly, be it he is top successful person, you are plain silly.
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post Aug 18 2011, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 18 2011, 01:27 PM)
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Dreamer, am I asking the correct question?

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If you are talking to someone with good communications skill, he/she doesn't bother how do you phrase your question. These persons will instead put themselves in your shoes and think how you think, they are able to get what you are trying to ask, and answer your question directly.
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post Aug 29 2011, 11:53 PM

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@Kasey Brown, I will reply you since you're putting up comments in a well manner.

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◘ So, if a teacher tells you that E=MC2, you'll only absorb that if you value his attitude? If he goes on to tell you how that formula works, you will only absorb 30 or 40% of it because you dont personally like the teacher?

My meaning is not that I will reject his teaching despite his knowledge is accurate.

I am trying to say if I want to improve, and to be success, I will go for a teacher that has good temper. I might want to ask many questions in order to understand a simple theory or formula, can the teacher explains to me until I fully understand? Will he be forcing me to follow his study method which doesn't suit me? Or will this teacher notice the learning method that suits me and apply it on me?

For an AVERAGE teacher (eg. poor interpersonal skill, inflexible teaching methods) I will listen to what he teaches (in terms of technical knowledge etc, eg. E-MC2), and I hope the way he explains, examples he uses are easy to understand; but I will not go further and learn from him when I found out he doesn't respect students.

Many forumers question me about this "good teacher VS bad teacher" theology but I choose not to reply because they have been judging me wrongly without asking me few more questions to understand what I am trying to say actually. These people only want to debate for the sake to win; they don't know how to listen, even if they judge, they don't care to know if they are judging it correctly or wrongly.

I hope I have answered your question.

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post Aug 30 2011, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Aug 30 2011, 01:15 AM)
Debbieyss

There are types of leadership as such "charismatic" and "transformational". A leader that had attitude of charismatic will not suit to lead u by example.

Personally, I used to be a charismatic style to my subordinate. Now I had diverse to be "transformational" style to manage my subordinate. Listen and understand, and not forced.
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I somehow agreed with what you said - many types of leaders.

I believe a good leader is not only charismatic, he is also transformational. I have met this kind of leaders in my life.

The first one is my Assistant of Student Affiars in my secondary school, second one is my Modern Maths Teacher, a male teacher; third one is my lecturer who taught Secretarial Duties.
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post Oct 23 2011, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 19 2011, 06:39 AM)
debbieyss,

So, where is a SINGLE "Thank You" from you to me??

Where are your manner??

So, what does this make YOU??

I am NOT PAID to teach you.  A basic COMMON COURTESY is say "Thank You" to someone that help you in some fashion.  But, what do I get from you instead?? And, what does this SAY about YOU??  And, what kind of person that you are??

Look at the mirror and ask is this the kind of person that YOU are??  If not, time to change before it is TOO COSTLY for you.

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Mr. Dreamer,


First of all, if I were you, the questions that came to my mind was why would my teaching only been adopted 30%=40% by someone, what's happened to the remaining 60%-60%? What's the problem that these 60%-70% not being adopted? Is there anything else I need to improve? How to make my teaching 100% useful to everyone?

The first question I ask the person is not "Where are your manner??"; instead, my first question to the person is "Thank you. So what do you think about the other 60%-70% of my teaching?".

When people tell you that you are good in that 30%-40%, you forgot the majority of 60%-70% which needs to be improved, and ask an appreciation from people, it's the funniest and most silly attitude I have met in my life and I am amazed that someone who claims a US graduate with more than 20 years of working experience, would concern about a word of thank you.

I tell you the truth, in the end of the day, if tzunami, earthquake comes to you, the first thing you think of is not your career, not how much money you have saved, not how many banks you owned, not how much profits you have earned from investments; when you are facing death, the only thing that you concern the most is have you hurt any one in your life, have you cheated someone, have you sincerely treat every one in your life, have you lived your life to the fullest, without all these in depth life lessons, you can't leave with a peace of heart.

So, I really don't care how rich you are (you have never told how much money you have though and, perhaps your money isn't that significant to me anyway; or perhaps you know your net worth isn't that great so you never bother to disclose a bit and just mere boasting here); I don't care if you have been CEO of any company, I don't care if you have changed 10+ jobs, because, the first thing and the only thing you showed me is your unlikable personality.

And, when you are asking me what does this say about me and, what kind of person that I am, and you ask me to look at the mirror, perhaps you should first ask yourselves what kind of person is this when he only seeks people appreciations for every single "charity" work that he has done.

I hope I have answered you the reason why I haven't said a word of "thank you" to you.
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post Oct 23 2011, 11:14 PM

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I faced my loved ones died.

Please don't put this judgment on me, when people question you about the details, you never answer, too, so did I scold you that you are a spoiled and ungrateful person?

I don't find a reason to be thankful to someone who put the wrong judgment on me. See?

I will not let other people to condemn me and judge of who I am. I don't care how you look at me, I don't care how many forumers here believe of how you judge about me. I only know I accept of who I am, including my strengths and weaknesses, I love who I am, I know all the ups and downs in the past that I have been through are for my loved ones, that's enough.

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post Oct 23 2011, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(vinesh22 @ Oct 23 2011, 08:44 PM)
Wrong. Total bull if you ask me. There's no such thing as not having a choice in life. The problem comes when people argue that they don't achieve anything even after working very hard. The problem? YOU'RE NOT WORKING SMART! There's a huge difference between someone who does not have a choice in their life, and someone who doesn't bother making a change in his/her life.
I personally know a guy who owns a couple of night clubs in Thailand. He was an orphan at 2, left to fend for himself in Bangkok. Although he grew up in an orphanage, one could only imagine the hell he had to go through growing up in that city, of all places, as an orphan. The dude is 32 this year, and is a self made millionaire with some solid business connections.
I'm not going to go into detail about how he got there, but my point is, not only did he work hard to get where he is now, HE WORKED SMART as well.
On your point that some have their talents undiscovered, who do you assume is to blame then? Their parents, friends and society? Talent is something you know you have, there's no such thing as "undiscovered talent", well to me at least. Sure, I know when people say undiscovered, they probably mean that its not out there to the entire world to see. So I ask you again, who is to be blamed? If a person knows that he/she has a talent that society might appreciate, the only reason the world would not know about it would be due to the lack of initiative by the person to showcase that talent. There have been millions of success stories out there of people who have made it from nothing. I'm not only talking about the rags to riches, poverty to hip social status type of people. Look at those SPM leavers who knew that they couldn't bother continuing their education due to the lack of interest. A lot who persevered made it in the end through hard work and dedication, showing their employers what they're capable of, which in a nutshell means showcasing their skills.

Just my 2cents, no offense.  smile.gif
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So, why is there a competition, a stage, many contestants, but those who failed to get into the semi-final round, manage to get contract from other companies and get famous?

What do you mean by "working smart" in this case by the way. From the example you share, you skipped the crucial part - what are the elements that make him a millionaire.

For example, those Malaysia Idol competition etc. Is someone working smart to get famous? No. He is doing what those top finalist do - attended the audition. He didn't do anything to get the contract. It's a coincidence that the company met him, fond of him and offer him a contract.

I believe the word "undiscovered talents", but it doesn't mean one have to sit there and wait for someone to discover him. One can work hard and aim for what he wants. There are many issues that got to get involved to make someone real famous.

There are also many types of life path; some people just being famous in the early stage and gets dimmer in the later age, some people work hard for a life time and just to get famous in the later age, some people work hard, but manage to find an average achievements (no big up nor big down).
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post Feb 14 2012, 09:57 PM

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Apparently arielyek is replying in a sarcastic manner but, well, apparently dreamer couldn't read body language. I have seen many engineers good in reading people's mind though.

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