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Joey Christensen
post Aug 22 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(arielyek @ Aug 21 2011, 10:23 PM)
dreamer101,
if I say I want to be someone like you,
is that a wrong ( question )?
Why would you want to be someone? Someone can be taken to be as a role model or maybe a source of aspiration to become "someone". At the end of the day, the "someone" you want to be is not someone you want to to be in the end. The "someone" becomes someone like yourself.

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post Aug 22 2011, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(rosemary @ Aug 22 2011, 03:39 PM)
this is interesting topic smile.gif

There is no actual correct method to be rich.
Some can be rich by being employed and some can be rich by doing business. Some get it the hard way, some get it the easy way.

Different people have different talents & value.

I always believe in opportunities.
Whether you need to be genius or lucky, it's all also depend on opportunity and right timing.

Stop dreaming and complaining and start to be hungry...

Never stop learning and building our skills. That's the most important career / business value. Who knows opportunity might come right in front of you?
I do not believe opportunity will be sent in a package and sitting there right in front of your door. However, opportunity is to be chased and to be grabbed. Sometimes opportunity/opportunities, once they are gone, they are gone forever.

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Joey Christensen
post Aug 26 2011, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(rosemary @ Aug 26 2011, 12:18 AM)
I have a dream... My dream is not to do anything but to achieve everything.
Can u help me???
Who can help you besides you, your very own?

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Joey Christensen
post Sep 2 2011, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Kasey Brown @ Sep 2 2011, 01:23 PM)
>> 30+ years ago, NEP started. Because of that, certain GLC stop promoting their non-BUMI IT folks.

◘ Sorry, this conversation is becoming difficult to follow... whatever NEP, GLC, and non-BUMI means.
Psst...Are you a Malaysian? Anyway, exaggeration or not, examples set forth are primed to be of a thinking mechanism. Let the mind bewildered, right?

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p.s: Bakuteh? Let's just say it's awesome! Some say after consuming it, you will gain +10 knowledge.
Joey Christensen
post Sep 2 2011, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Sep 2 2011, 01:40 PM)
I find myself agreeing with Tigerr.
Let's drop the Bakuteh & Muslim Area, these two don't mix and it's offensive and rude to certain community. BTW I love Bakuteh and just had one session last night.
What's wrong with the example? I think it's a very good example being mentioned. What do you mean it doesn't mix together? Offensive and considered rude to certain community? Hello? Such shallow minded you are, my friend.

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post Sep 2 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Kasey Brown @ Sep 2 2011, 01:50 PM)
>> Psst...Are you a Malaysian?

◘ American.
Do you know what the effing wrong with our government/nation?

Regards, Joey

p.s: Sorry about my language but I really need to kung-pow the word "wrong" with "effing".

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post Sep 2 2011, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Sep 2 2011, 01:57 PM)
haha that why my CEO always bring me to eat and he a Malay, the smarter one  sweat.gif
Well, there's a saying, knowledge comes and wisdom lingers. Anyway, it should be addressed to myself in a sense. Would it be very wrong if I were to enjoy my meals in front of my Muslim colleagues? Would it make sense if all the eateries were to be closed for a month during their month of fasting? Again, it doesn't make sense. Would it be of my examples here are of much an exaggeration in nature?

I don't think so.

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Joey Christensen
post Sep 2 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 2 2011, 02:04 PM)
Joey, since u do not understand, let me explain to you. Pork is something taboo to the Muslim community. So, better dont use such topics to apply on the Muslims. And this is definately not shallow minded. It did not hurt you so you dont feel, but do give tactful consideration to other religion.
Should I say, for example, by having a shop selling bakuteh in a middle of a Muslim community, it is considered hurtful? Am I being blasphemous? Hmmm...I do feel how Jeremy Clarkson feels when he commented something about our beloved Proton Corporation.

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post Sep 2 2011, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 2 2011, 02:14 PM)
Joey, different country have different culture. The way things practise in America and the way things practise in Asia or Africa is totally different. One cannot use one's culture or value to judge other's culture and value.

If you are indifferent of this opinion, you can try go to strong Muslim countries such as Iran or Saudi or Afganistan, and if you dare to bring out pork and consume in front of them. I salute  notworthy.gif  you. If you are not beaten or stoned to death, you can go back and claim this victory.
What victory as of you've spoken that yet to be claimed by me? Please don't be silly willy.

QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 2 2011, 02:20 PM)
first of all, i am not a muslim. From what you are saying, having a shop selling bakuteh in a middle of a Muslim community, it is nothing hurtful (to me, of course). However, since bakuteh or indirectly means pork, it would be better not to relate it to the Muslim community as we dont know how they view it or feel it towards them.

There are plenty of topics where you can discuss or quote as an example, but why want to touch something like bakuteh with Muslims?
The association of both entities are well for you and for me to interpret. However, your set of interpretation does not equate squarely upon mine, vice versa. It is a hypothetical example that was written by fellow dreamer101 and I would be very much appreciate it if you keep your head leveled when considering a discussion with me or others.

You have your very own set of reason and I have mine as well. We stand for what we believe in and we discuss openly.

Regards, Joey

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post Sep 2 2011, 02:42 PM

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◘ Ah... ok.  If you want me to give you a full socio-economic and political break down of all Malaysia's problems, you can PM me and we can discuss that... but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the topic here.  Sure there's a lot wrong with Malaysia, but there's a lot RIGHT with it too!  I mean Joey lives here, and Joey is a good person, so it cant be that bad.  I'm a good person... or at least I try to be.  Dreamer and Tigerr both seem pretty smart... in fact, I bet if you look you'll find dozens - possibly even THOUSANDS of really good-natured, warm hearted, intelligent people with only the best intentions in mind.  And doesn't that count for something???

Yes. This I would agree wholeheartedly. I've never seen them personally but, yeah, I can see they are a good bunch. Thanks for the offer and for sure I'll keep that n mind.

I swear there's another thread I just posted in where someone's making Malaysia out to sound like the worst country that ever existed

Well, we have to accept criticism. An old saying that goes, criticism is better than praise.

◘ But this is a free and open forum.  On top of that it's an internet forum, where we do not have to physically be near one another.  So I think it's the most suited place for discussions that have intellectual merit or genuine concern.

I couldn't say it better my self.

◘ Sure you can do that.  They cannot control what you eat.  You're not controlling what they eat, so they cant control what you eat.  Besides, you're not asking to share the pork with them.  You're eating it on your own.  In that way, you're already being respectful to them.  They have to be respectful to you by letting you eat it.  Respect is a 2 way street.

You got that right!

◘ In those countries it is not Muslims or Islam that causes those living conditions, but rather the fact those countries have a totalitarian fascist/theocratic government.  Soviet Russia was an atheist state, but saying the wrong thing in public could get you executed.  This has utterly nothing to do with atheist - it was a totalitarian government causing that.  So I dont think your example works.

Thank you for shaving my time to write/explain.

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post Sep 2 2011, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 2 2011, 02:48 PM)
Kasey, what you said is totally what i agreed. However, enough said, it is just what we both agreed and what we think it should be the way. However, for courtesy sake, it should be better if you want to eat Pork in front of the Muslims. Not all of them can accept that. Some may see it as offensive gesture. Probably you wont feel it as i believe you are dealing with the modern Muslim folks.

Have is a classic example, in an office pantry where a non-muslim staffs heated up his lunch(consist of pork) using the microwave, and found out by one of the Muslim receptionist. In the end, the microwave have to be disposed as Muslim colleagues cannot use it anymore eventhough how clean you going to clean it. From that day onward, no pork is allowed to be consumed in the pantry room. Please dont be suprise as this happened in one of the Swiss MNC in Malaysia.

We need to respect each other, but the way showing respect to each other, we must also know how the locals practise it. Sometimes, what we think and act could be wrong in the eyes of others.
Ahh...how capital it would be if utilities, amenities, so on and so forth to be divided for you and for me. Best of two worlds, eh? A piece for each and everyone in jolly, good mood. Towards world peace!

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post Sep 3 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Sep 3 2011, 11:22 AM)
Sometimes, bosses is more afraid of those who try to make themselves indispensable, not good for the company if the fella die all of a sudden in an accident. tongue.gif
It's absurdly silly if one to say the boss is afraid of those who who try to make themselves indispensable. The tea lady resigns, no problem for the corporation. The Chief Executive Officer resigns/steps down, nothing cataclysmic problem. The corporation will run its course.

We do not take everything to ourselves. We do the "everything" in the initial stage and when it reaches to a stage of "good-to-pass" to someone else to take over, we empower/train/nurture another staff to take over the responsibilities that was given to us in the first place. We move on to other projects/assignments/responsibilities/so on and so forth.

As this process unfolds, we get the chance to take on other projects/assignments/responsibilities. Due to the nature of this, you gain one new entity to learn and work on new stuff because you have the time. To simplify what I'm trying to say here:

Manager receives Task A from the Board

Manager---Staff A---Staff B, Staff C, Staff D, so on and so forth (Task A)

Manager moves on to Task B

(Reporting to Manager)---Staff A---Staff B, Staff C, Staff D, so on and so forth (Task B)

Manager gets Task C

Staff B being promoted for Task A.
Staff A being promoted for Task B.
Manager moves on from Task A to Task B to Task C to...

Can you see the chain reaction/multiplier effect in this hypothetical situation in a working industry? If the Manager takes Task A, Task B, Task C to him/her only, he or she just simply could not cope with the task required magnitude from Task A, Task B or even Task C.

This is the mentality that an effective manager should have. By keeping everything to him or her self silly and may somewhat seems stupid. Some say it is just pure career suicide. Some say it is akin to career stagnation.

Regards, Joey

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post Sep 3 2011, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Sep 3 2011, 03:42 PM)
Yes a lot of silly and stupid and paranoid managers out there, Hypothetical situation is not real world and cannot exclude the human factor, when B can do the job of A and B want promotion to A but company cannot expend, what will A do usually? Until A found a better job, B won't have the chance and will make C & D challenge B, this is the drama in the office and counter productive, hence high staff turn over cycle but A blame it on young people attitude and tell the boss stories.

The boss don't care because immune to it already, until one day, the company suffer losses and deteriorating sales by the years, the entire staff are fired even the CEO is new, I went to such an international company for interview 1 1/2 month ago.

Once, I was hired as head of the department but there was a senior thought she will succeed instead, so she caused all sorts of problem. At another company, the existing head are so afraid of my ability overwhelmed her, she spread gossip because the stupid boss love to hear who is bad luck to the company, their business rely on luck so much that they harness luck from recruiting huge number of sales without basic salary and depend on commission alone. (taking advantage of the religion and behavior of a race group)

One person one luck, multiply that by few hundred and even if only half of them make sales in one day, profit is guaranteed at the minimum expenses to the managers and infrastructure, they had to recruit fresh graduates every few months because half of them won't lasts more than 1 year. Imagin you are the sales and unable to make sales, you get nothing, is it because you are not hardworking or no luck? You lost if unlucky but the company lose nothing.

Those are the real situation, knowing what we are up against is making the difference not made up stories that sounds logical and hopefully motivating.
There's a reason why kids are taught "A for Apple and B for Boy...". Would it be, erm...of a norm that those kids were to be taught like " A for Arsehole and B for Basta®d"?

Regards, Joey

p.s: Simplification has its own functionality. You have a complex set of real life situation as example and I have a simple set of hypothetical situation. Sometimes a complete drawing is not the drawing itself.

QUOTE(mieza @ Sep 3 2011, 04:06 PM)
Please stop this misunderstanding. I'm not trying to be indispensable. I'm trying to be someone that you can't find replacement for my place. The idea is once I go, you can't find no other like me. It is not the same anymore.

Lets say for example, you can't find replacement for Dr.Mahathir. Even someone take over his place, everything is not the same anymore. Only someone that better than he is can make the different.

Got the picture..?
You made me laugh. Thank you.

Regards, Joey

p.s: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLZ! By the way, I didn't get the picture (I'm being sarcastic here).

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post Sep 3 2011, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Sep 3 2011, 04:26 PM)
This topic is going into the real world not kinder garden, your kind of assimilation only breed disappointments.
Boy oh boy. Some can write but could not think. Some can think but could not write.

Regards, Joey
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QUOTE(dafreak @ Sep 3 2011, 11:35 PM)
This just shows POOR financial planning

"Level 2 thinking" as you call it, is just too absurd/farfetched/impractical

OWN the bank? If everyone were to be able to have this thinking imagine how many Tom d*** & Harry OWNs a bank? shakehead.gif
i dont see why you have to attack 3dassets personally. IMO those questions are valid regardless whether he went through them before or not
Firstly, take a look at the post posted before you and see who's the culprit in launching personal attack. Yes, what's wrong being said "owning" the bank. It's a saying and when it comes to saying, an educated person doesn't take a word for a word.

QUOTE(3dassets @ Sep 4 2011, 01:48 AM)
How to reach those people lah? Those fella why want to share? dreamer101 is here mah. But did he mention how much he is worth? If not rich enough then never mind, no better than I try on my own otherwise ended up talking cock when old. (like him) laugh.gif
There you go...again.

QUOTE(Kasey Brown @ Sep 4 2011, 04:15 AM)
>> Is it ABSURD and FAR FETCHED that a person own the bank??

◘ I think the point's easy to understand.  When you buy stock in a company, you're buying a "part" of that company.  Though you dont rule over the entire company like it belongs only to you.

As far as starting a bank of your own, that's theoretically possible, but free market competition generally keeps competitors out.  Basically, if you want to start a bank and succeed, you have to do BETTER than the banks that are already there.  The companies that do best survive because those are the places customers give their money to.  Shorter waiting lines, less fine print, and better service mean I'm likely to come back to you rather than someone else.

It's not far fetched.  Certainly not impossible.  But you'd have to know what you're doing, and have a serious passion for it.  Just like with anything else.
I do agree that it is fairly easily understood when it comes to when dreamer101 said something about "owning" the bank. It's just that their mind is like playing a 2D game. They ruled out teh possibility of gaming in 3D. Perhaps narrow in perception of the word "owning" in a saying?

QUOTE(dafreak @ Sep 4 2011, 10:37 AM)
Defination of OWN:

MerriamWebster: belonging to oneself or itself —usually used following a possessive case or possessive adjective
Investorwords.com: Having legal right to a property.

so how does buying a small amount company's shares/stock make you OWN it?
You are taking it as it is. Think out of the box. When you are heading toward a dead-end, what would you do? Going forward or go astern and find another route? Your pick.

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 4 2011, 07:15 PM)
dafreak,

You are getting VERY CLOSE to my ignored list.  And, you are BLIND!!!

What bank stock did I used as an example??

WHY people must spoon feed you everything??

Dreamer
I'm not sure if he misses out where you did write the bank out. People are expected to be spoon-fed these days and it is really pain in the neck!

Regards, Joey
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post Sep 5 2011, 07:31 PM

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Psalms 126:5-6 They that sow in tears shall reap in joy. He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.

I believe we must begin sowing today, if we want to reap tomorrow. It's basic fundamental of a "can do" person. As a Peranakan Chinese, I believe luck should be factored in. However, luck is secondary element in what we reaped.

Regards, Joey

p.s: Effort comes first before anything else.
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QUOTE(arielyek @ Feb 14 2012, 09:23 PM)
dreamer101,

I guess my only choice is to climb to a new peak since I'm already in a valley.
I'll start moving forward and stop looking at the past because what is past is past.
I'm going to study chemical engineering (degree) this year although my A-lvl results is very bad.
What shall I do at the start of my engineering journey so that I'm better and well-prepared before I graduate as an engineer?
I don't want to be a fresh graduate with no experience and average or below average capability.
I want to increase my capability like what you did, and prepare myself years before I become an engineer.
I hope you can guide me because you are way more experience and a good example for me to learn from.

Thanks dreamer101, I appreciate your help.
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What shall you do at the start of your engineering journey? One word: Do.

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